Updated VFL/AFL premiership tally

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Let it go. You seem to be obsessed with what and how I post. The ignore button is your friend.

I really don't care how often, or on what, you post.

As I said, I don't care I was just curious. Yes, I'm repeating that, and I'm accusing you of repeating the same thing over and over, but it's still true. It's simply curiosity of the human psyche.

I'd love to see a different side of you. Give me an example of when you were wrong about something on here and admitted it and didn't just double-down/triple-down on the same thing over and over. Is there anything that springs to mind? Just curious.
 

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As I said, I don't care I was just curious. Yes, I'm repeating that, and I'm accusing you of repeating the same thing over and over, but it's still true. It's simply curiosity of the human psyche.

Let it go with this obsession with what and how I post. The ignore button is your friend.
Give me an example of when you were wrong about something on here and admitted it and didn't just double-down/triple-down on the same thing over and over. Is there anything that springs to mind? Just curious.

The search function is also your friend.

Changing the subject now? If you think I'm wrong in this instance (on this particular thread topic, which is what we're supposed to be actually discussing), tell me exactly why. Convince me with your well argued reasons, backed up with plenty of supporting evidence. You're apparently well aware of my argument. After all, I've got 19,000 posts on the subject.

(Please note the last sentence as an attempt at humour. I'm trying to get my humour quotient up. Apparently that's important in posting.)
 
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Let it go with this obsession with what and how I post. The ignore button is your friend.


The search function is also your friend.

Changing the subject now? If you think I'm wrong in this instance (on this particular thread topic, which is what we're supposed to be actually discussing), tell me exactly why. Convince me with your well argued reasons, backed up with plenty of supporting evidence. You're apparently well aware of my argument. After all, I've got 19,000 posts on the subject.

(Please note the last sentence as an attempt at humour. I'm trying to get my humour quotient up. Apparently that's important in posting.)

No, I was merely asking you if you can recall an instance where you have been wrong. My motto is if you think you are the smartest person in the room, then you are in the wrong room. It was just a question. I can't go through all your 19,000 posts for time reasons clearly - it was just a question of curiosity.

* I appreciate it
 
Now you're just repeating the same thing over and over again. Rinse and repeat. Not about your pet topic this time, but the recent exchange between you and I. You've already made all these points; you don't need to keep repeating them. I heard you the first time. Insane. Absolutely insane. You just can't let anything go. Same humorless tone, same cut-and-paste (not literally) style. It's like banging your head against a brick wall. Astonishing.
Dan that's pretty rude. He's pointed out a helpful improvement, on a subject that a lot of less informed posters get wrong.

Don't kill a great thread with pettifogging mate, Fitzroy aint Brisbane, and both Brisbanes are the same club. Hes technically correct.

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My motto is if you think you are the smartest person in the room, then you are in the wrong room.

Where did I say or imply that?

You're just trying to change the subject now. Somehow it's gone from your complaint that I post exclusively on one topic to now that I somehow I 'think I'm never wrong because I'm the smartest person in the room'. The old 'red herring' fallacy.

Why don't you address my comments on the topic about Brisbane's position in your list?
 
Where did I say or imply that?

You're just trying to change the subject now. Somehow it's gone from your complaint that I post exclusively on one topic to now that I somehow I 'think I'm never wrong because I'm the smartest person in the room'. The old 'red herring' fallacy.

Why don't you address my comments on the topic about Brisbane's position in your list?

I can do that later (maybe if I feel like it), but as I said I'm sick of your discussing of the topic and I don't want to bore myself with it at the moment. It essentially comes down to the difference between legal and practical, but I don't want to get you started, as everything you have said is out there in thousands of posts anyway. I don't want to read your same posts re-hashed. It will just waste everyone's time, and I'd be guilty of getting you started. I'm more curious if you can give me an example of you being wrong. You never answered, you just deflected.
 
I can do that later (maybe if I feel like it), but as I said I'm sick of your discussing of the topic and I don't want to bore myself with it at the moment. It essentially comes down to the difference between legal and practical, but I don't want to get you started, as everything you have said is out there in thousands of posts anyway. I don't want to read your same posts re-hashed. It will just waste everyone's time, and I'd be guilty of getting you started. I'm more curious if you can give me an example of you being wrong. You never answered, you just deflected.
That question is OT.

Legally and practically he's right.
 
I can do that later (maybe if I feel like it), but as I said I'm sick of your discussing of the topic

What topic? The list you presented and started a thread on? Brisbane should be #7 in your list. Not #1. I (and others) explained why. When that was disputed, further reasoning was given.
It essentially comes down to the difference between legal and practical, but I don't want to get you started, as everything you have said is out there in thousands of posts anyway.

What's your argument for 'practical'? I've explained that as well. Many times to different posters.
I don't want to read your same posts re-hashed.

Then Brisbane must be #7 (equal with West Coast). All you've said is that you're using a fan website for your rankings. As a supporter of Brisbane, I'd be happy if they were actually #1. But in actual fact they're not.
I'm more curious if you can give me an example of you being wrong.

Why? What relevance does it have to the topic?
You never answered, you just deflected.

You give me an example of how you think I've been 'wrong'. If I offer an opinion, I try and give the reasons why I hold that opinion. I try and base it on facts (which I also present) as why I think my opinion is accurate. It's then up to readers to decide whether they agree with what I present. Or not.
 
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You just don't get it do you? I'm sick of you discussing this single topic and don't want to pour fuel on the fire. We all know what your views are, and making post umber 4,567 about it won't make it any better than post 4566. Talk about something else. You just don't stop do you - in many ways you're really just a spammer. I'll discuss it if I feel like it, but if it is going to end with your cut-and-paste style repetition, then no I will not engage.
 
Talk about something else.

I'm trying to talk about the position you placed Brisbane at, in the list you presented. Seeing this is after all what the thread is about.

You've taken it elsewhere.
in many ways you're really just a spammer.

The 'ignore' button is your friend. Use it, if you don't want to read what I post. Maybe then your obsession will fade.
I'll discuss it if I feel like it, but if it is going to end with your cut-and-paste style repetition, then no I will not engage.

I don't care if you engage or not.

Brisbane should be #7 (equal with West Coast). Not #1.
 
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I'm trying to talk about the position you placed Brisbane at, in the list you presented. Seeing this is after all what the thread is about.

You've taken it elsewhere.
No I just don’t want to engage with your obsession, because you can’t take the hint and let it go and because it’s just repetition of thousands of posts you’ve already made.
 
No I just don’t want to engage with your obsession, because you can’t take the hint and let it go and because it’s just repetition of thousands of posts you’ve already made.

Let it go. Use that ignore button.

Brisbane should be #7 (equal with West Coast). Not #1.
 
Give me an example of when you were wrong about something on here and admitted it and didn't just double-down/triple-down on the same thing over and over. Is there anything that springs to mind? Just curious.
Ironic.
 
Let it go, really?

You seem to be obsessed with my post history. Whereas I couldn't care less about yours.
From the man who posts literally thousands of posts on one topic for 2 decades.

Sigh

As I've repeatedly said, if you can't work out why I've had to explain what actually happened to my club over and over again over the last twenty years to a myriad of different posters then I can't help you. I'm explaining why statements about my club are inaccurate. I'm sure you would do the same, if the same incorrect information about your club was continually repeated and presented as truth.
Give it a break.

As I've said (which you seem to have once again ignored) I'll post where and as often as I please. I don't need to run the quantity of what I comment on or topic choice of my posts past you. Nor will I. If you don't want to read them, don't.

Use the ignore function. It's quick and it easy and it solves your problem.
As I said, you're a weird, curious individual.

You wouldn't have a clue what I am and what I'm not.
But Jesus, you are obsessive.

Ironic.
Go for it.

I will.
 
Performance metric of each club measured against time in the competition. Source AFL tables.

Metrics

Flags
GS's
Finals won
Finals played.

Metric divided by years in the comp, for example Adelaide have 2 flags divided by 33 years gives them an average of 0.0606 premierships per year.

Just my opinion but these metrics separate those on equal number of flags with equal time in the competition.

FlagsGFFinals WonFinals playedYears in compTotal averages
Ade23183633
Averages0.06060.09090.54541.09091.7878
Bris45203237
Averages0.1080.13510.540540.86481.6484
Collingwood164384190127
Averages0.12590.33850.66141.4962.6218
Carlton162967143127
Averages0.12590.22830.52751.12592.0076
Essendon162869132127
Averages0.12590.22040.54331.03931.9289
Fremantle0171729
Averages00.03440.24130.58620.8619
Geelong101960134127
Averages0.07870.14960.42741.05511.7108
GC000013
Averages00000
GWS0191812
Averages00.08330.751.52.3333
Hawthorn1319548799
Averages0.13130.19190.54540.87871.7473
Melbourne13185494127
Averages0.10230.14170.42510.74011.4092
North Melbourne49357599
Averages0.04040.09090.35350.75751.2423
Port Adelaide12143027
Averages0.0370.0740.051851.11111.2739
Ricmond13245694116
Averages0.1120.20680.48270.85341.6549
St Kilda172255127
Averages0.00780.05510.17320.4330.6691
Syd / Sth Melb5194497127
Averages0.03930.14960.34640.76371.299
West Coast47265537
Averages0.10810.18910.70271.48642.4863
WB / Footscray24215799
Averages0.02020.04040.21210.57570.8484
Fitzroy8133459127
0.06290.10230.26770.46450.8974
So that settles it and confirms what everyone already knows.

1. Collingwood
2. West Coast

The Rest.
 

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