Game Day US Election Day Thread - Trump 47th President of the United States

Who Wins?

  • Trump 270-280

    Votes: 35 19.4%
  • Harris 270-280

    Votes: 34 18.9%
  • Trump 290-300

    Votes: 22 12.2%
  • Harris 290-300

    Votes: 32 17.8%
  • Trump 300+

    Votes: 30 16.7%
  • Harris 300+

    Votes: 18 10.0%
  • Harris 280-290

    Votes: 3 1.7%
  • Trump 280-290

    Votes: 6 3.3%

  • Total voters
    180
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I just find it amazing that the ruling classes are surprised when the working class -ie most people - vote for smaller government, lower taxes and against mass migration. Trump is different in that he will do what he says, unlike the UK conservatives and Aust Libs who are voted in on such policies then refuse to implement.
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San Fransisco is emblematic of the US. Those who have lots and those who are driven to poverty. It's the Ruhr Valley of the 21st century and where all of US GDP growth comes from.

And your impression of SF is driven by the poor people, even though SF is the powerhouse of the US economy, driven by the rich people in Silicon Valley.

Your argument is emblematic of Trump Voters. They recognise that there's a problem, but they think it's the poor people's fault, when it's the fact the rich are getting so much richer at the expense of the middle and lower class.

Trump identified that there's a problem in the middle and lower classes, but his solutions are all wrong and will make things worse. Whereas the Dems have been pretending it isn't happening and telling people to kdisbelieve that their wages aren't keeping up with inflation.
Trump supporters definitely aren't blaming poor people for being poor. They blame socialist like policies, drug and mental illness epidemic, broken homes/fatherless homes, a poor education system things of that degree. The closest I've seen the right blame poor people is saying that everyone is equal and has an opportunity to succeed in the USA with hard work and the right mindset, for example a lot of the Asian immigrants who have come to America with nothing have become pretty successful in their endeavours but they also understand not everyone starts with the same opportunities and some face more hardships that prevent them from this experience. What you said was once true but it's pretty outdated now. We will see if Trump and his policies can improve, worsen or have no effects on this and I reckon it could be defining in the next election with whoever Trump endorses to be his successor which will probably be Vance but far to Early to tell.
 
2020
81 million voted for Biden
74 million voted for Trump

2024
71 million for Trump
67 million for Harris

14 million people chose not to vote and the Democrats need to work out why they failed to engage those people to vote
Because positioning yourself as better than Trump is not enough to win an election in a country where voting isn't compulsory. They pandered to the centre/right instead of invigorating the youth vote to come out for them with progressive policy. Democrats lost ground with young voters this election compared to 2020 and made no ground with Independents/Republicans. Just a very poor strategy
 
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As predicted, Tesla shares are up 15% the day after the election. Tesla will make massive gains from tariffs on Chinese cars and US consumers will pay the price, with BYD and other Chinese cars much cheaper (and better quality) than Teslas. It's the start of the war on the middle class.
Just pay extra and dont use slave labour to make your car?

Not sure why thats too hard for some people
 
The real story of the numbers is that Trump lost 2 million votes from 2020 and Harris lost 15 million from what Biden's 2020 tally. It was that Harris and the Dems weren't selling a winning strategy.

The story is that Harris and the Dems lost, because they tried to not upset anybody, tried to be all things to all people and ended up being nothing to anybody. A good economy which didn't serve the middle and lower classes. A passive foreign policy which led to seemingly endless wars in Ukraine and Palestine.

Ignoring things like men in womens' sports and children having gender affirmation surgery in a very partriarchal and religious society.
Ignoring a tiny issue that has zero to do with America’s current problems?
 
Hardly anyone believes the mainstream media and their agenda against Trump anymore. The few that still do and are unaware of a lot of the lies that's been portrayed are in for a real reality check. Trump isn't the evil orange boogeyman, he's not a racist bigoted facists that wants to end democracy and hopefully the way things pan out from here will be nothing but positive and the divisive political culture and division between people can be somewhat repaired. That is the hope and probably a bit far fetched but I believe possible nonetheless.

Did you forget about the 4 years where Trump pretended he didn’t lose the 2020 election?
 
The median wage from 2019 to 2023 (Real) has dropped from $81.2k to $80.6k.

All while the Dems were telling everyone how great the economy had done under Biden. But everyone is worse off. The Home Price index is up over 50% from 2019 to 2023.

Just like Australia, any economic growth is being felt by a few, and not by the majority.
 

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Everyone should be free to follow their religion - that's a human right. Everyone should be free to not follow any religion - that's a human right. When a government allows religion to influence its policy, human rights (and science, reason, etc) are at risk. A government should neither be pro or anti-religion. Religion should be something that is for individuals.
When you refer to religion, you mean Christianity and Judasim right?
They are the bad religiions.

Indigenous dreaming and Islam are the good religions and they are allowed to impact politics.
 
Ignoring a tiny issue that has zero to do with America’s current problems?
You could say that about the Voice too. It wasn't going to affect a large number of people, so why bother?

Having a policy on men in womens' sports wasn't going to affect a lot of people, but those it did were going to vote about it. Same with Gaza.
They lost Wisconsin by less than 30,000 votes and Michigan by 75,000.

Wisconsin has 100,000 muslims and Michigan 240,000

If you take the largest Muslim areas of Dearborn which Biden won 70-30 in 2020 and Trump won 43-36-15 (Stein) in 2024 as representative of Muslim voters in those two states, it cost Harris those two states. Maybe the Dems will never get them back, either.
 
Your a pretty good example of Trump derangement syndrome but good luck with that.

Trump has plenty of proposals like build a wall send back illegal immigrants, use tarrfis, no tax on tips dig for oil and stop relying on Saudi Arabia and Russia for it are just some of his proposals. Trump actually does try to do the proposals he says he will. What was Harris proposals oh I know copy Trump with tax on tips, 3 quarters of her election she never even had any policies listed on her own website they where impossible to find. As for the rest of your post it's not worth commenting on for obvious reasons.

His tariffs bullshit is so stupid. It's his answer to everything. "If China invades Taiwan I wont respond but I'll raise tariffs to 200%". He tried his tariffs thing in 2018 and it just ended up harming the USA more than the country he was trying to punish.
 
His tariffs bullshit is so stupid. It's his answer to everything. "If China invades Taiwan I wont respond but I'll raise tariffs to 200%". He tried his tariffs thing in 2018 and it just ended up harming the USA more than the country he was trying to punish.
You know Biden left Trumps tariffs in and didnt repeal them right? Why did he leave something in that was harming the country?
 
Inflation has a lag. And it was a massive problem that governments are still trying to rein in.
When you lockdown all businesses while your already in massive debt I wonder why. Every country is what Greece was described as a few years back. Ironically the rich has only gotten much richer over it.
 
Did you forget about the 4 years where Trump pretended he didn’t lose the 2020 election?

It was stolen from him like The Rock stole Stone Cold Steve Austin's Intercontinental title



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The democrats will have to live with massively misreading the room. They approached the election the wrong way entirely.

Blame the voters for having no idea ? LOL
I blame the democrats for not appealing enough to EVERYONE.
 

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