Kurve
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She isn’t black, Kurve.
Kamala is Jamaican descent, that's black. Anyhow whatever, is that the best you've got?
If Kamala identifies as black, she's black.
lolShe'll identify as whatever she thinks will get her the most votes.
She'll identify as whatever she thinks will get her the most votes.
There's been some focus in the press indicating her reluctance to play on her race. Meanwhile, Trump appears to be gaining support among young Black voters.
You really don't like her, do you?
Kamala is as black as that female boxer is maleKamala is Jamaican descent, that's black. Anyhow whatever, is that the best you've got?
She isn’t black, Kurve.
She's not African American.
African Americans, also known as Black Americans or Afro-Americans, are an ethnic group consisting of Americans with partial or total ancestry from any of the Black racial groups of Africa
Her Dad also has Irish heritage witch he has stated he is very proud of. Funny how that doesnt appear to be relevant.Her father (and her) trace their ancestry directly from the Black racial groups of Africa.
Her father is an Afro Jamaican (a Jamacain man, who has ancestry from Africa). Kamila (who has the same ancestry from Africa, but who was born and raised in the USA) is thus 'African-American.'
It's like how my own ancestry traces back to the British isles (mostly). The people of the British isles are a combination of multiple ethnic groups (Celts, Angles, Normans, Saxons, Jutes etc) with the modern terms for the admixed ethnic groups of Britain usually one of either 'English', 'Welsh' 'Cornish' or 'Scottish' or even just 'British'.
The accepted term for my ethnicity is 'Anglo-Australian'.
All of this simply highlights the absurdity of 'race' as some kind of biological construct (it's not). Literally every person on earth is an admixture of multiple races and ethnic groups (many of which are now extinct), all of whom originated in a single ethnic group which spread out from Africa around 100,000 years ago.
Race is a social construct. Kamila is Black and Asian, and identifies (and is accepted as) both an African American and an Asian American (having ancestry that traces back directly to those continents).
All of this simply highlights the absurdity of 'race' as some kind of biological construct (it's not). Literally every person on earth is an admixture of multiple races and ethnic groups (many of which are now extinct), all of whom originated in a single ethnic group which spread out from Africa around 100,000 years ago.
Race is a social construct. Kamila is Black and Asian, and identifies (and is accepted as) both an African American and an Asian American (having ancestry that traces back directly to those continents).
Yeh the focus on it has always frustrated me a bit.
Her Dad also has Irish heritage witch he has stated he is very proud of. Funny how that doesnt appear to be relevant.
Presumptive Democratic nominee and US vice-president Kamala Harris has Irish roots but not in a way that she is likely to embrace.
Ms Harris is the daughter of Donald J Harris, who was born in Jamaica, and Shyamala Gopalan Harris from India.
Genealogical research carried out by Northern Irish historian Stephen McCracken reveals Ms Harris’s four-times-paternal-great-grandfather Hamilton Brown was born in Co Antrim in 1776, the year of the US Declaration of Independence.
Brown emigrated to Jamaica, then a British colony, and became an enthusiastic slave owner on the sugar plantations that were the mainstay of the island’s economy. He opposed the abolition of slavery across the British Empire in 1832 and went to Antrim to replace his slaves with workers from his native county.
I know they're out there but I haven't met any IRL. Cookers, yes I've met a few of those.
No the MSM brought race into by celebrating she might be the first black woman President.How is that not relevant? Have you asked her?
The campaigner that brought race into it was Trump remember.
I doubt she identifies with her Irish ancestry:
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/...escendant-of-an-irish-slave-owner-in-jamaica/
That said, I dont know either way. She probably acknowledges it, but doesnt identify as Irish, in the same way I do with my Aboriginal ancestry.
Apparently they are not on speaking terms?Her dad is Jamaican!