NWO/Illuminati US politics - Pt 2

[Kurve]

Here is US Politics - Pt 1

 

[Bostonian]

Her father (and her) trace their ancestry directly from the Black racial groups of Africa.



Her father is an Afro Jamaican (a Jamacain man, who has ancestry from Africa). Kamila (who has the same ancestry from Africa, but who was born and raised in the USA) is thus 'African-American.'

It's like how my own ancestry traces back to the British isles (mostly). The people of the British isles are a combination of multiple ethnic groups (Celts, Angles, Normans, Saxons, Jutes etc) with the modern terms for the admixed ethnic groups of Britain usually one of either 'English', 'Welsh' 'Cornish' or 'Scottish' or even just 'British'.

The accepted term for my ethnicity is 'Anglo-Australian'.

All of this simply highlights the absurdity of 'race' as some kind of biological construct (it's not). Literally every person on earth is an admixture of multiple races and ethnic groups (many of which are now extinct), all of whom originated in a single ethnic group which spread out from Africa around 100,000 years ago.

Race is a social construct. Kamila is Black and Asian, and identifies (and is accepted as) both an African American and an Asian American (having ancestry that traces back directly to those continents).

Thanks for the lecture but that's not how it's framed in the US.

Descendants of slaves have their own distinct culture. And many see themselves as African Americans. That's their term.

The are vastly different from actual African immigrants.

Nigerian immigrants who have been extremely successful in the US don't call themselves African American, they see themselves as Nigerian Americans.

This African American culture has nothing at all to do with Kamala's cultural background.

She's not from that culture. Just as Obama wasn't.

She is the child of modern immigrants, not ancestry of American slaves.

 

[bourbons]

No the MSM brought race into by celebrating she might be the first black woman President.

What a strange little man you are

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Apparently they are not on speaking terms?

Certainly she wasn't raised with any African influence.

 

[Stokey]

What a strange little man you are

What for pointing out the obvious.






Such a shame though that Joe beat her to it.

 

[Kurve]

Certainly she wasn't raised with any African influence.

FFS, just looking at her and it's obvious she's of black ancestry.

Is she misrepresenting her lineage?

 

[Malifice]

Thanks for the lecture but that's not how it's framed in the US.

Are you trying to tell me President Obama does not consider himself to be (and is not accepted as) an African American?

 

[bourbons]

What for pointing out the obvious.

No, for being so triggered by it.

MSM outlets make banal factually correct statement - stop the press! Are they not allowed to mention it or something? Would it be ok if they just noted she could be the first woman POTUS, is it just the 'black' part thats annoying you? Are they allowed to mention it if she wins, or still nah? Just trying to get the rules straight here

Meanwhile Trump, the GOP and their dutiful little parrots (even on a footy website on the other side of the world) are literally saying she isn't black, just lol

You look at this and somehow decide its MSM outlets that are the problem here. Absolutely incredible

 

[skipper kelly]

No, for being so triggered by it.

MSM outlets make banal factually correct statement - stop the press! Are they not allowed to mention it or something? Would it be ok if they just noted she could be the first woman POTUS, is it just the 'black' part thats annoying you? Are they allowed to mention it if she wins, or still nah? Just trying to get the rules straight here

Meanwhile Trump, the GOP and their dutiful little parrots (even on a footy website on the other side of the world) are literally saying she isn't black, just lol

You look at this and somehow decide its MSM outlets that are the problem here. Absolutely incredible

The campaigner that brought race into it was Trump remember.

 

[zill]

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/...escendant-of-an-irish-slave-owner-in-jamaica/

That said, I dont know either way. She probably acknowledges it, but doesnt identify as Irish, in the same way I do with my Aboriginal ancestry.

Her idea of reparations might differ from the commonly held meaning of the word in america.

 

[bourbons]

The campaigner that brought race into it was Trump remember.

In comparison to Harris/the media? Thats correct

Again, imagine looking at what the 2 sides have been doing the last week and thinking that it's the Dems/supporting media that are the ones going hard on the race angle, legit mind boggling

 

[FlowersByIrene]

FFS, just looking at her and it's obvious she's of black ancestry.

Is she misrepresenting her lineage?

Black =/= African American.

And yes, she is misrepresenting her lineage to try and appeal to the African American bloc of the US.

 

[Lebbo73]

How was the Mossad orientation day?

Why do you bend the knee to Hamas when they’d kill you in an instant?

 

[Bostonian]

Are you trying to tell me President Obama does not consider himself to be (and is not accepted as) an African American?

He's not. His father is Kenyan and his mother is a white American.

Zero ties to the black American culture that traces its history to the history of slaves in the US.

The reason the term African American is a thing is because people didn't know from which parts of Africa their ancestors came from.

Obama knows exactly from what nations his family comes from.

Irish or Italian Americans don't call themselves European Americans do they?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Why do you bend the knee to Hamas when they’d kill you in an instant?

That sounds like something Mossad would say.

Being against apartheid and genocide doesn't mean bending a knee to Hamas.

 

[Kurve]

He's not. His father is Kenyan and his mother is a white American.

Zero ties to the black American culture that traces its history to the history of slaves in the US.

The reason the term African American is a thing is because people didn't know from which parts of Africa their ancestors came from.

Obama knows exactly from what nations his family comes from.

Irish or Italian Americans don't call themselves European Americans do they?

I understand what you're trying to say here because I've had similar conversations around this within the family. Nobody has to say some of us were plantation slaves because it seems quite obvious on knowing someone just a bit better than a casual acquaintance, there are strong tells.

It's still correct though, for Obama and Harris to identify as African American.

African Americans
Ethnic group

Description​

African Americans, also known as Black Americans or Afro-Americans, are an ethnic group consisting of Americans with partial or total ancestry from any of the Black racial groups of Africa.

via Wiki

Description: Black or African American (new definition) - A person having origins in any of the black racial groups of Africa. Black, non-Hispanic (old definition) - A person having origins in any of the black racial groups of Africa (except those of Hispanic origin). Source: IPEDS.

 

[Lebbo73]

That sounds like something Mossad would say.

Being against apartheid and genocide doesn't mean bending a knee to Hamas.

You bend the knee and so much more

 

[Ghost Patrol]

You bend the knee and so much more

I bend 3 fingers and a thumb when I wave at your Mossad friends.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

This guy is heaps funnier than Trump. When did he marry Rosanne?

 

[Malifice]

He's not. His father is Kenyan and his mother is a white American.

Zero ties to the black American culture that traces its history to the history of slaves in the US.

That has nothing to do with being African American.

If you are an American, and descend from one of the black ethnic groups in Africa, you're an African American.

You don't need a slave ancestor for ****s sake.

 

[Bostonian]

That has nothing to do with being African American.

If you are an American, and descend from one of the black ethnic groups in Africa, you're an African American.

You don't need a slave ancestor for ****s sake.

You pushing the nonsense that only black people are African now?

 

[Malifice]

You pushing the nonsense that only black people are African now?

What? Africa is home to thousands of ethnic groups. Most of them have dark skin ('black Africans') but many do not (Arabian and Semitic peoples, White south Africans, Afrikaners etc).

I'm saying that the term 'African American' as an ethnic group is taken to mean an American, with descent from one of the dark skinned peoples of Africa (for example one of the hundreds of Bantu ethnic groups).

An American with a (white) Afrikaner parent or grandparent (such as Charlize Theron) would not be considered to be an African American, and would not be accepted as such by other African Americans.

Yes she's African, and yes she's American, but the context for 'African American' and how it's used requires a 'black' parent or grandparent.

I'm not saying any of the above is logical, or makes sense by the way. Race (and ethnicity) is a social construct. It comes with entirely arbitrary rules that generally lack consistency and vary between (and within) ethnic groups.

 

[Bostonian]

What? Africa is home to thousands of ethnic groups. Most of them have dark skin ('black Africans') but many do not (Arabian and Semitic peoples, White south Africans, Afrikaners etc).

I'm saying that the term 'African American' as an ethnic group is taken to mean an American, with descent from one of the dark skinned peoples of Africa (for example one of the hundreds of Bantu ethnic groups).

An American with a (white) Afrikaner parent or grandparent (such as Charlize Theron) would not be considered to be an African American, and would not be accepted as such by other African Americans.

Yes she's African, and yes she's American, but the context for 'African American' and how it's used requires a 'black' parent or grandparent.

I'm not saying any of the above is logical, or makes sense by the way. Race (and ethnicity) is a social construct. It comes with entirely arbitrary rules that generally lack consistency and vary between (and within) ethnic groups.

Of course it's not logical. It's been co-opted by left wing twats. They don't do logic.

If something can't stand up to scrutiny when a scenario is reversed elsewhere then it's a load of nonsense.

Using the above reasoning you provided there should be no issue with the acceptance of "Black Europeans" as a term buy other Europeans.

 

[Malifice]

Of course it's not logical. It's been co-opted by left wing twats.

You think 'left wing twats' are responsible for how humanity have always defined ethnic groups?

You think White Nationalists and the KKK are 'left wing twats' do you?

If something can't stand up to scrutiny when a scenario is reversed elsewhere then it's a load of nonsense.

I actually agree. Ethnic groups are a load of nonsense. 'White' 'Black' 'Germanic' etc, They're all social constructs.

That said, they exist as social constructs and we're stuck with what he have.

Again, look at how the KKK and similar groups define a 'white person'. It's usually worded in such a way as to exclude Slavic and Semitic peoples (who are often whiter than Western Europeans) by having some kind of arbitrary geographical boundaries imposed.

Or look at how Native Americans classify Native Americans ('1/4 blood to qualify') as opposed to Aboriginal Australians (all you need is some descent, self identification, and mutual acceptance). Or look at how Jewish people count membership (blood is not important at all, you just need to convert to the religion).

The lines of demarcation separating ethnic groups are arbitrary, and differ from group to group.

That said, you're a fool if you're blaming 'der left' for the above nonsense. 'Lefties' didn't invent ethnic groups or how we count membership in them now matter how you want to spruike it.

 

[bourbons]

He's not. His father is Kenyan and his mother is a white American.

Zero ties to the black American culture that traces its history to the history of slaves in the US.

The reason the term African American is a thing is because people didn't know from which parts of Africa their ancestors came from.

Obama knows exactly from what nations his family comes from.

Irish or Italian Americans don't call themselves European Americans do they?

But is he 'black' though?

 

[Bostonian]

You think 'left wing twats' are responsible for how humanity have always defined ethnic groups?

You think White Nationalists and the KKK are 'left wing twats' do you?



I actually agree. Ethnic groups are a load of nonsense. 'White' 'Black' 'Germanic' etc, They're all social constructs.

No, I think they are the twats who keep co-opting things and trying to change it to suit their views.

Like the morons who claim black people can't be racist. Those kinds of morons.

That said, they exist as social constructs and we're stuck with what he have.

Again, look at how the KKK and similar groups define a 'white person'. It's usually worded in such a way as to exclude Slavic and Semitic peoples (who are often whiter than Western Europeans) by having some kind of arbitrary geographical boundaries imposed.

Or look at how Native Americans classify Native Americans ('1/4 blood to qualify') as opposed to Aboriginal Australians (all you need is some descent, self identification, and mutual acceptance). Or look at how Jewish people count membership (blood is not important at all, you just need to convert to the religion).

The lines of demarcation separating ethnic groups are arbitrary, and differ from group to group.

That said, you're a fool if you're blaming 'der left' for the above nonsense. 'Lefties' didn't invent ethnic groups or how we count membership in them now matter how you want to spruike it.

None of that changes the fact someone like Kamala Harris isn't African American.

Best to apply logic to all situations.

Logic says if you have 1/4 Native American I'm your ancestry you can lay claim to that from which tribe your relative is from.

Logic also says if you have no Aboriginal Australian ancestors in you then you aren't Australian Aboriginal.

Who do you think co-opted that other nonsensical rubbish that says acceptqnce

You think 'left wing twats' are responsible for how humanity have always defined ethnic groups?

You think White Nationalists and the KKK are 'left wing twats' do you?



I actually agree. Ethnic groups are a load of nonsense. 'White' 'Black' 'Germanic' etc, They're all social constructs.

That said, they exist as social constructs and we're stuck with what he have.

Again, look at how the KKK and similar groups define a 'white person'. It's usually worded in such a way as to exclude Slavic and Semitic peoples (who are often whiter than Western Europeans) by having some kind of arbitrary geographical boundaries imposed.

Or look at how Native Americans classify Native Americans ('1/4 blood to qualify') as opposed to Aboriginal Australians (all you need is some descent, self identification, and mutual acceptance). Or look at how Jewish people count membership (blood is not important at all, you just need to convert to the religion).

The lines of demarcation separating ethnic groups are arbitrary, and differ from group to group.

That said, you're a fool if you're blaming 'der left' for the above nonsense. 'Lefties' didn't invent ethnic groups or how we count membership in them now matter how you want to spruike it.

Yes I think left wing twats are responsible for the modern day nonsense we often see.

They are definitely responsible for the utter crap like "black people can't be racist".

What illogical bullshit.

Seems all these utterly moronic and ridiculous assertions come from people who are left or right leaning ideologically.

I mean it has to be some left leaning person who would came up with the utter tripe that even if you have no Australian Aboriginal ancestors you can claim to be Aboriginal.

Sounds like something some activist grifter would imagine up.

In the end someone like Kamala Harris isn't an African American.

It's why she doesn't identify as that term. She identifies as black.