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He's not. His father is Kenyan and his mother is a white American.
Zero ties to the black American culture that traces its history to the history of slaves in the US.
That has nothing to do with being African American.
If you are an American, and descend from one of the black ethnic groups in Africa, you're an African American.
You don't need a slave ancestor for ****s sake.
You pushing the nonsense that only black people are African now?
What? Africa is home to thousands of ethnic groups. Most of them have dark skin ('black Africans') but many do not (Arabian and Semitic peoples, White south Africans, Afrikaners etc).
I'm saying that the term 'African American' as an ethnic group is taken to mean an American, with descent from one of the dark skinned peoples of Africa (for example one of the hundreds of Bantu ethnic groups).
An American with a (white) Afrikaner parent or grandparent (such as Charlize Theron) would not be considered to be an African American, and would not be accepted as such by other African Americans.
Yes she's African, and yes she's American, but the context for 'African American' and how it's used requires a 'black' parent or grandparent.
I'm not saying any of the above is logical, or makes sense by the way. Race (and ethnicity) is a social construct. It comes with entirely arbitrary rules that generally lack consistency and vary between (and within) ethnic groups.
Of course it's not logical. It's been co-opted by left wing twats.
If something can't stand up to scrutiny when a scenario is reversed elsewhere then it's a load of nonsense.
But is he 'black' though?He's not. His father is Kenyan and his mother is a white American.
Zero ties to the black American culture that traces its history to the history of slaves in the US.
The reason the term African American is a thing is because people didn't know from which parts of Africa their ancestors came from.
Obama knows exactly from what nations his family comes from.
Irish or Italian Americans don't call themselves European Americans do they?
You think 'left wing twats' are responsible for how humanity have always defined ethnic groups?
You think White Nationalists and the KKK are 'left wing twats' do you?
I actually agree. Ethnic groups are a load of nonsense. 'White' 'Black' 'Germanic' etc, They're all social constructs.
That said, they exist as social constructs and we're stuck with what he have.
Again, look at how the KKK and similar groups define a 'white person'. It's usually worded in such a way as to exclude Slavic and Semitic peoples (who are often whiter than Western Europeans) by having some kind of arbitrary geographical boundaries imposed.
Or look at how Native Americans classify Native Americans ('1/4 blood to qualify') as opposed to Aboriginal Australians (all you need is some descent, self identification, and mutual acceptance). Or look at how Jewish people count membership (blood is not important at all, you just need to convert to the religion).
The lines of demarcation separating ethnic groups are arbitrary, and differ from group to group.
That said, you're a fool if you're blaming 'der left' for the above nonsense. 'Lefties' didn't invent ethnic groups or how we count membership in them now matter how you want to spruike it.
You think 'left wing twats' are responsible for how humanity have always defined ethnic groups?
You think White Nationalists and the KKK are 'left wing twats' do you?
I actually agree. Ethnic groups are a load of nonsense. 'White' 'Black' 'Germanic' etc, They're all social constructs.
That said, they exist as social constructs and we're stuck with what he have.
Again, look at how the KKK and similar groups define a 'white person'. It's usually worded in such a way as to exclude Slavic and Semitic peoples (who are often whiter than Western Europeans) by having some kind of arbitrary geographical boundaries imposed.
Or look at how Native Americans classify Native Americans ('1/4 blood to qualify') as opposed to Aboriginal Australians (all you need is some descent, self identification, and mutual acceptance). Or look at how Jewish people count membership (blood is not important at all, you just need to convert to the religion).
The lines of demarcation separating ethnic groups are arbitrary, and differ from group to group.
That said, you're a fool if you're blaming 'der left' for the above nonsense. 'Lefties' didn't invent ethnic groups or how we count membership in them now matter how you want to spruike it.
But is he 'black' though?
So not 'black' then, for all intents and purposes?He's mixed race.
So not 'black' then, for all intents and purposes?
Its a pretty simple question.
Like the morons who claim black people can't be racist. Those kinds of morons.
None of that changes the fact someone like Kamala Harris isn't African American.
Logic says if you have 1/4 Native American I'm your ancestry you can lay claim to that from which tribe your relative is from.
Logic also says if you have no Aboriginal Australian ancestors in you then you aren't Australian Aboriginal.
I mean it has to be some left leaning person who would came up with the utter tripe that even if you have no Australian Aboriginal ancestors you can claim to be Aboriginal.
In the end someone like Kamala Harris isn't an African American.
It's why she doesn't identify as that term. She identifies as black.
His dad was Kenyan his mother was American.
So he's a Kenyan American.
Pretty easy answer.
And where exactly is Kenya?
In Africa.
Nationality has far more relevance than the name of a continent which has next to no relevance.
Haha, unreal. Literally can't answer the question 'is Obama black' - and you have the hide to label others morons to bootHis dad was Kenyan his mother was American.
So he's a Kenyan American.
Pretty easy answer.
Haha, unreal. Literally can't answer the question 'is Obama black' - and you have the hide to label others morons to boot
Unsurprising Harris has broken so many brains if this is the best you can put up.
Haha, unreal. Literally can't answer the question 'is Obama black' - and you have the hide to label others morons to boot
Unsurprising Harris has broken so many brains if this is the best you can put up.
He's a shade of brown.
Most mixed race people are.
''Obama has said, "I identify as African-American — that's how I'm treated and that's how I'm viewed. I'm proud of it." In other words, the world gave Obama no choice but to be black, and he was happy to oblige.''
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna28216005
Luckily we have Bostonian here to correct Obama, and everyone else, with Bostonians own racial definitions he alone uses.
I'm talking about common and accepted terminology in the American context. Its hilarious that you can't bring yourself to acknowledge it, sounds like a type of derangement, possibly happening in concert with some kind of syndromeHe's a shade of brown.
Most mixed race people are.
Or don't you have eyes?
Everyone on the planet is mixed race. Including you.
The English are a combination of Celtic, Angle, Pict, Jute and Saxon (plus a lot more). And that's just going back 2000 years or so. If you want to go all the way back to Africa (where the English originated, along with everyone else), then your average 'Englishman' is probably a combination of around a thousand or more distinct ethnic groups.
There isnt a person on the planet you could do a DNA test on and it give you back 100 percent of anything.
And that includes you.
You have a very naive view of 'race' mate.
Except I don't.
You talk like it's never been a thing, even though it states it on the Wikipedia page.
"The term "African American" generally denotes descendants of Africans enslaved in the United States."
So you were saying?
African Americans, also known as Black Americans or Afro-Americans, are an ethnic group consisting of Americans with partial or total ancestry from any of the Black racial groups of Africa.[3][4] African Americans constitute the third largest racial or ethnic group in the U.S. after White Americans and Hispanic and Latino Americans.[5] The term "African American" generally denotes descendants of Africans enslaved in the United States.[6][7]
Most African Americans are descendants of enslaved people within the boundaries of the present United States.[8][9] While some Black immigrants or their children may also come to identify as African American, the majority of first-generation immigrants do not, preferring to identify with their nation of origin.[10][11] Most African Americans are of West African and coastal Central African ancestry, with varying amounts of Western European and Native American ancestry.[12]
I'm talking about common and accepted terminology in the American context. Its hilarious that you can't bring yourself to acknowledge it, sounds like a type of derangement, possibly happening in concert with some kind of syndrome
I suspect you wouldn't even be doing it had Trump not gone with it first.
But no worries mate, keep thinking how silly people are when they say 'Obama is black' or 'Harris is black'. This has gotta be your funniest shtick here ever, big call I know
Anyone can be English though, it's a nationality.
You don't call someone with a white English parent and a Chinese parent European Asian do you?
I'll post it again... The term "African American" generally denotes descendants of Africans enslaved in the United States.