NWO/Illuminati US politics - Pt 3

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CM86 said:
Then your research at the time was wrong.

It wasn't taking from existing crude oil that had already been produced.
This was record breaking levels of production of NEW crude oil...

Think about what you're actually trying to argue here...

That RECORD LEVELS of crude oil... were already there, in storage?

You think companies like BP, Chevron, Shell etc... are just... putting it away in storage, not selling it?
That they've had it sitting in storage, and now they're bringing it out of storage to put into different storage?!? At RECORD LEVELS???

I can't do this today. I'm out.

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The United States produced more crude oil than any nation at any time, according to our International Energy Statistics, for the past six years in a row. Crude oil production in the United States, including condensate, averaged 12.9 million barrels per day (b/d) in 2023, breaking the previous U.S. and global record of 12.3 million b/d, set in 2019. Average monthly U.S. crude oil production established a monthly record high in December 2023 at more than 13.3 million b/d.​
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The crude oil production record in the United States in 2023 is unlikely to be broken in any other country in the near term because no other country has reached production capacity of 13.0 million b/d. Saudi Arabia’s state-owned Saudi Aramco recently scrapped plans to increase production capacity to 13.0 million b/d by 2027.​
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They purchase it and then store it.

As Ive said, you are focusing on production. I believe the focus should be on use. Producing coal wont drive down prices for Australia, using it will.

I think you are looking at the wrong question. Question to look at is. How much oil was consumed during Trumps presidency compared to Bidens. This is what I was mostly factoring in myself
 
HitTheNailOnTheHead said:
You can spin it whichever way you want. If I was a relative of one of the dead I would be sickened by him mentioning the sugar bowl and checking his watch after the furore he created when he checked it 13 times on another sad occasion.

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No problem.

Please be consistent with that standard.
 
CM86 said:
Yes.

He is making fun of himself during his speech about how amazing New Orleans are that they're able to move forward through such tragedy, and continue to live their lives.


I don't give a shit about virtue signalers on this.
You don't care. You don't actually take issue with what he said. Because if it actually meant something to you, you'd hold Trump to account for the more egregious jokes he's made.

But it's not about what was said, it's about who said it.
Biden bad.
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I dont care about it myself for sure. I agree with that. Openly state many times words mean jack shit to me, show me the actions. This isnt any different

What you said needs to be flipped on its head though. Why can Biden make egregious jokes but Trump cant?
 

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CM86

A good subject to investigate is India and its underground storage of oil in the last 4 years, primarily from Russia

Its a very interesting look at oil production this past 4 years and the manipulation of it. Indias ability to leverage the Russia/Ukraine war for its own benefit will be a big thing to play out in the next 10-20 years. They have done a masterful job of it in reality. Its a insanely long winded subject so dont really have time to dump it all for you but if you find a moment just dive into it
 
GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
They purchase it and then store it.

As Ive said, you are focusing on production. I believe the focus should be on use. Producing coal wont drive down prices for Australia, using it will.

I think you are looking at the wrong question. Question to look at is. How much oil was consumed during Trumps presidency compared to Bidens. This is what I was mostly factoring in myself
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I can't.

I'm backing out. You and HitTheNailOnTheHead have destroyed me with facts and logic.


Shell, Chevron, BP et al all decided not to sell their product.
Somehow they still made record profits on the sale of crude oil...
But it must have been an error somewhere in their tabulations.


It makes total sense that these companies don't sell their product.
They are, after all, storage facilities...
 
CM86 said:
I can't.

I'm backing out. You and HitTheNailOnTheHead have destroyed me with facts and logic.


Shell, Chevron, BP et al all decided not to sell their product.
Somehow they still made record profits on the sale of crude oil...
But it must have been an error somewhere in their tabulations.


It makes total sense that these companies don't sell their product.
They are, after all, storage facilities...
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They sold the product to US who then store it?

Im confused as to why you think oil reserves are free?
 
GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
Also I’m confused about the last part

Do you honestly believe Trump won’t try and deport Democrat voters? That he will just be nice and leave them in the country ? You think Trump is so pro democracy he is going to leave the Democrats alone to sing in a circle together.

He like all politicians is anti democracy. He will export the Democrat supporters. Believing he will be a nice guy about it is absurd

You can’t believe Trump is anti democracy but proclaim he will do the noble and democratic thing when he is in power… it’s one or the other. I’m gonna look at the reality. He is anti democracy and he will spend 4 years deporting Democrat voters out of the country. It won’t be 200,000 , it will be a 4 year campaign and many many more. He isn’t going to be a nice guy cos you want him to be I’m afraid.
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bourbons . Can you come back to this please? (suspect you might not have read it also)

Its a very big point to think about. I tend to think you believe Trump will do the right thing and not deport Democrat voters, but am perplexed as to why you think that.
 
GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
Which is why I asked for a logical argument instead of the unhinged one given? I’m still waiting for my example of course…
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You also squibbed a very straight question about whether there is currently a rift happening in the MAGA rank and file around immigration and Trump flipping on a previous position to unequivocally side with big business Elon.

I won't pretend I know the motive for the recent attack but its clear you're pretty invested in not considering a particular potential angle, I think this says a lot.
 
GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
Which one was the shooter angry about that caused him to snap and try to kill him ?
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Potentially the current civil war in MAGA around immigration and Trump's siding with Elon over the base as just noted.

Personally I think the bloke's marriage breaking up and state of his life might be a bigger factor, people who do this kind of thing aren't exactly acting rationally.
 
bourbons said:
You also squibbed a very straight question about whether there is currently a rift happening in the MAGA rank and file around immigration and Trump flipping on a previous position to unequivocally side with big business Elon.

I won't pretend I know the motive for the recent attack but its clear you're pretty invested in not considering a particular angle, I think this says a lot.
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A disagreement as opposed to a rift. The cult of personality will just see MAGA accept the change. A rift would imply Trump disagrees with Elon/Vivek but given he doesnt, I dont think its as big of a issue as you want it to be

Is it a cult or not? If its a cult as you say then the rift isnt something that matters? They will just blindly follow Trump as what occurs in a cult environment yeah? Trumps approved the move so the cult members approve and move on IMO. The only issue will occur when Elon/Vivek/Trump have different policies. Given they dont its a bit of a non issue and it never will be cos of that cult of personality aspect of it

Once again you cant claim the end results will change because you want them to be different... The end results are somewhat cultivated already. Its been 10 years of this after all
 

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GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
Also I’m confused about the last part

Do you honestly believe Trump won’t try and deport Democrat voters? That he will just be nice and leave them in the country ? You think Trump is so pro democracy he is going to leave the Democrats alone to sing in a circle together.

He like all politicians is anti democracy. He will export the Democrat supporters. Believing he will be a nice guy about it is absurd

You can’t believe Trump is anti democracy but proclaim he will do the noble and democratic thing when he is in power… it’s one or the other. I’m gonna look at the reality. He is anti democracy and he will spend 4 years deporting Democrat voters out of the country. It won’t be 200,000 , it will be a 4 year campaign and many many more. He isn’t going to be a nice guy cos you want him to be I’m afraid.
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Overthinking it a tad I reckon, like I said its the wall mk2 - a campaign tool to get his nationalist base to get excited and chant about at rallies, he'd know he has next to no chance of actually deporting that many people and doesn't particularly care to do it anyway. His own businesses rely on those people.

Nothing to do with him being noble or having some kind of principle on the issue once in power.
 
bourbons said:
Overthinking it a tad I reckon, like I said its the wall mk2 - a campaign tool to get his nationalist base to get excited and chant about at rallies, he'd know he has next to no chance of actually deporting that many people and doesn't particularly care to do it anyway. His own businesses rely on those people.
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His own businesses rely on visas not illegals. I think we all got to that conclusion this week? It seems to be the way they want to go. Replace illegals with visa holders they have power and control over so they can vote Republican...

You dont think deporting voters is a campaign tool? Its a pretty damn large one. If you can guarantee your own re election by deporting voters, the ability of it being hard isnt going to stop you... you will push on and do it because of the immense benefit it holds.

Once again you are wanting the end result to be different because it suits the argument. The reality is, if you deport illegals and replace with visa holders you control to replace those illegals your position is much stronger. You are just holding onto blind hope that wont happen. The reality is it will. The anti democracy path is why
 
GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
Bit immature to decide who represents my thoughts and the like. Maybe I just represent myself yeah? Maybe HitsNailOnTheHead speaks for himself and doesnt have Kevin Sorbo do it for him?

You are not talking to me in good faith if someone elses opinion can be used to replace my own. Im not interested in doing the same so not sure why you wanna go that route.I believe you are smarter and better then that deep down so think you can probably put your mind to being that way if you tried to. Its less malicious and more I suppose laziness which happens to all of us I suppose

Just focus on what I say without bringing Kevin Sorbo into it. I think that is a fair request
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You don't even consider yourself MAGA do you?

I'm saying its representative of MAGA, not you.
 
bourbons said:
You don't even consider yourself MAGA do you?

I'm saying its representative of MAGA, not you.
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The post was directly in relation to HitTheNailsHead thought pattern being the same as Kevin Sorbo if you read it. It was a absurd take

Not sure anyone here is MAGA. MAGA is a bunch of people in Texas and the like who want American related changes. I and most of us couldnt give a ****ing crap about Texas related improvements. The worldwide changes is what matters and what we would care about. Kevin Sorbo cares about Texas, I dont and none of us here do. Its 2 different paths. Voting for the same person doesnt put everyone in the exact same bucket. All voting bases have multiple voting sources. Me and others are not MAGA ones in reality. If we were id be talking about Texas getting better
 

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GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
I foremost said political association can only be done on recency bias. Do you think if I shot up a building id be labelled a Biden supporter instead of a Trump supporter? I did support Biden in 2020 and wanted him to win as I said but wanted Trump to win in 2024

I was also a member of the Liberal Party in 2020 before I switched to One Nation

What political position would I be if I did this? Id like to think people would view me as a Trump/One Nation supporter and not a Biden/Dutton one
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If you did that your known political history would be analysed and discussed, yes.

Not discounted out of hand as you just attempted.
 
HitTheNailOnTheHead said:
You can spin it whichever way you want. If I was a relative of one of the dead I would be sickened by him mentioning the sugar bowl and checking his watch after the furore he created when he checked it 13 times on another sad occasion.

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Sure, thats reasonable.

What is categorically not true is that he wanted to wind up the presser so he could go watch football, as LibsOfTikTok and the other cooker account re-tweeting it tried to pretend.
 
Why did they need to compare DNA from Matthew's body with family members when all security clearances require DNA swabs and all military members have DNA in a government database? They already had his DNA. No need to take any from family members.
 
bourbons said:
Sure, thats reasonable.

What is categorically not true is that he wanted to wind up the presser so he could go watch football, as LibsOfTikTok and the other cooker account re-tweeting it tried to pretend.
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Did he take any questions?

Libs of TikTok have used the same level of hyperbole you've used in the past describing various Trump actions.

This is a more balaced position you should be able to stomach.

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