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FWIW don’t think this argument has stacked up at all this season. Runner ups all having better seasons in higher grade. Bernards 10th having a better season than Trinity 9th. 2 up 2 down gives the season more live rubbers.
Prem teams up Blacks (R/U) 7th OH (Prem) 9th
B - OGs (R/U) 5th Monash (Prem) 10th
C - OC (R/U) 1st PEGs (Prem) 3rd
Relegated Prem Bernards (10th) OT (9th)
B - Carey (9th)
C - Uni (9th) Preston (10th)
Parkside are the favourites for D2 after losing the D3 GF
 
The issue with umpires is supply, not sure how the extra $ would help provide more umpires if they are not there. It might help with injury management, and umpires also go on holidays mid-year so they deal with the same frustration's clubs face.
Paying more per game should attract more I'd have thought.
 

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Paying more per game should attract more I'd have thought.
What does a premier level u p get paid these days, I umpired in EDFL for 20 years, finishing up 10 years ago as life got too busy with a young family and I started doing the old man calf far too regularly.. but was about $156 a game from memory when I finished up.

I personally never did it for the money, was a good incentive when I was a teen but was always just to stay involved in a game I loved when I realised I wasn’t very good at playing it. I found most of the better umps the money was irrelevant, especially when you consider 2 hours every Tuesday & Thursday, 4 hours on a Saturday and then recovery on a Sunday, the hourly rate from $150 was fairly negligible.. and that’s before you consider expenses like fuel, massage, etc if I had enough left over to cover the footy trip this was a bonus..
 
These days, particularly for young people, we're competing with a bevvy of options in terms of how potential young umpires spend their Saturdays.

Just because older generations did it as a leisure activity doesn't mean the current are willing to do the same.

If it was a meaningful way to contribute to their lifestyle/pay the groceries whilst at uni etc there is no doubt in my mind we would get more umpires.

If nothing else- we'd be more likely to recruit them across from other leagues.
 
These days, particularly for young people, we're competing with a bevvy of options in terms of how potential young umpires spend their Saturdays.

Just because older generations did it as a leisure activity doesn't mean the current are willing to do the same.

If it was a meaningful way to contribute to their lifestyle/pay the groceries whilst at uni etc there is no doubt in my mind we would get more umpires.

If nothing else- we'd be more likely to recruit them across from other leagues.
I see that 2 very experienced VAFA umpires have left VAFA and gone to Southern Football League.
 

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Beaumaris player points from the weekends game.
22 names = 47/45 points.
#18 (4 pointer) listed as an emergency, has not had his points added to the total /45
The 43/45 total points only reflects 21 players.

Appears the same thing has occurred the previous week when Beaumaris played SBMT.

47/45 the last two weeks.

It all obviously slips through the cracks at VAFA because they are under the 45 points only because the player listed as the emergency does not have his points included in the total which tip them over.
 

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Beaumaris player points from the weekends game.
22 names = 47/45 points.
#18 (4 pointer) listed as an emergency, has not had his points added to the total /45
The 43/45 total points only reflects 21 players.

Appears the same thing has occurred the previous week when Beaumaris played SBMT.

47/45 the last two weeks.

It all obviously slips through the cracks at VAFA because they are under the 45 points only because the player listed as the emergency does not have his points included in the total which tip them over.
This is bizarre.
So, they played with 21???
 
This is bizarre.
So, they played with 21???
No, that’s the issues. Played with the 22 for both rounds 11 and 12, exceeding the points - 47/45.

They have had a 4 point player listed as an emergency for those rounds. When the total team points have been calculated together, the emergencies points have not been included in this total figure.

Hence, undetected until St Bernard’s raised the alarm following their match from the weekend.
 
This is bizarre.

No, that’s the issues. Played with the 22 for both rounds 11 and 12, exceeding the points - 47/45.

They have had a 4 point player listed as an emergency for those rounds. When the total team points have been calculated together, the emergencies points have not been included in this total figure.

Hence, undetected until St Bernard’s raised the alarm following their match from the weekend.
The club with an elite junior program ffs
 
Beaumaris player points from the weekends game.
22 names = 47/45 points.
#18 (4 pointer) listed as an emergency, has not had his points added to the total /45
The 43/45 total points only reflects 21 players.

Appears the same thing has occurred the previous week when Beaumaris played SBMT.

47/45 the last two weeks.

It all obviously slips through the cracks at VAFA because they are under the 45 points only because the player listed as the emergency does not have his points included in the total which tip them over.
In A Grade even the UNIBluesAFL seem to be playing by the rules?
 
This is bizarre.

No, that’s the issues. Played with the 22 for both rounds 11 and 12, exceeding the points - 47/45.

They have had a 4 point player listed as an emergency for those rounds. When the total team points have been calculated together, the emergencies points have not been included in this total figure.

Hence, undetected until St Bernard’s raised the alarm following their match from the weekend.
Did St Bernards blow the whistle last year as well?
 
This is bizarre.

No, that’s the issues. Played with the 22 for both rounds 11 and 12, exceeding the points - 47/45.

They have had a 4 point player listed as an emergency for those rounds. When the total team points have been calculated together, the emergencies points have not been included in this total figure.

Hence, undetected until St Bernard’s raised the alarm following their match from the weekend.
FWIW surely there is a reasonable explanation for this? How could you stuff this up after last year.
 

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