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i love fyfe but for him to get the dockers mens 1st ever flag? sadly not gonna happen.
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i love fyfe but for him to get the dockers mens 1st ever flag? sadly not gonna happen.
I would love the AFL grand final to be played in Alice Springs or Hobart just for the LOLsAgreed. Teams can now play where they want.
So the only solution is to move the grand final so that teams aren't disadvantaged by not playing there.
So all problem solved - grand final at highest placed teams home or rotated going forward.
now ask me which side has been in more grand finals since the AFL era since 1990 between Collingwood and freo? lol25 years of H&A ladders, shows that teams with a distinct home ground finish higher.
The H&A season is biased towards non-Melbourne teams.
It should be pretty obvious that AFL House policy of removing home ground advantage for one set of teams would see that group suffer compared to teams who retained their home ground advantage.
AFL House policy working, non-Melbourne teams dominate H&A ladder and the Northern expansion teams have played in the most GFs.
Yeah gutted freo didnt beat geelong. top 5 would of been all non vic sides.Could have been top five but Freo doing Freo things.
Now I really hope there is 2 non vic sides that make the grand final in 2024.Lol. The Gaslighting. Now Geelong has been hard done by! In my Best Hutchy/shitty Victorian accent "Give Us a Spweall!"
Yeah, but Port has a disadvantage as Ken Hinkley is their coach. So, it even out. lolWhy are you counting, that wasnt the question posed.
Like StKilda, Port is a club that gets to play an away game at its home ground.
Unlike StKilda, Port gets ALL 11 of its home games at its preferred home ground the AO.
Port will get the fixture enhanced top4 H&A finish, and then blow home finals to better teams again.
#portbias is real
Got evidence of this?
What happened in 1990 that changed anything?now ask me which side has been in more grand finals since the AFL era since 1990 between Collingwood and freo? lol
Name these 5 Victorian sides that Freo have performed better in the 21st century?What happened in 1990 that changed anything?
In the 21st century, Fremantle have at least made a GF at the MCG.
Carlton, North and Melbourne havent even made a GF at the G. Essendon and the Bulldogs have also only appeared in just 1 GF at the G.
And in addition to Freo's 1 GF appearance, they also had a minor premiership but lost a home PF to another GF quality season.
Freo have been better performed that 5 of the Melbourne based teams in the 21st century.
But still run with the lazy #VICBIAS
???Name these 5 Victorian sides that Freo have performed better in the 21st century?
North and Carlton I can think of because those 2 haven made a grand final since they both faced each other since 1999.
You harp on about dockers having a couple of 350 gamers compared to Collingwoods one.Freo, in their short history, have twice as many hit 350 as the pies have had in 127 years in the VFL/AFL.
West Coast 11 players to 250. Pies 14 only 3 more in an extra 90 years. And obviously less than west coast in the same time frame.
Because a myth pedalled by lazy VICBias sooks is that travel shortens careers.The fact the matter is... Why are you concerned about 2 dockers playing 350 games?
Nope. I want all top 8 finals spots taken by all the non Vic sides lolIf the top 4 teams in 4 weeks are non Victorian is this thread dead?
Yet all research says that air travel, especially consistent air travel causes issues for athletes.Because a myth pedalled by lazy VICBias sooks is that travel shortens careers.
You just said Freo has been tough to beat in WA as Hawthorn have in Victoria. That doesn't stack up.How do you account for the two WA teams having easily the biggest difference in winning when you compare home state to away state. It both looks pretty clear from the data and matches up with the theory and anecdotes that they have a travel disadvantage when playing away which is balanced by a travel advantage when playing at home - we seem to have conveniently forgotten about the advantage they get from teams travelling to them - with both data and player and coach anecdotes suggesting it's really tough to win there. Freo have been as tough to beat in WA as Hawthorn have in Victoria - an incredible stat when you look at those two clubs overall performance and quality of players during Freo's time in the AFL.
LOL at the google. The article is focussed on in-season impacts of travel in a fixture where teams can play back 2 back games in different cities. With fatigue effects prevalent when less than 72 h of rest is experienced between games.Yet all research says that air travel, especially consistent air travel causes issues for athletes.
A 30 sec google brings up this one
Sure it is NBA but if it causes issues in a game with lesser physicality.The Negative Influence of Air Travel on Health and Performance in the National Basketball Association: A Narrative Review
Air travel requirements are a concern for National Basketball Association (NBA) coaches, players, and owners, as sport-based research has demonstrated short-haul flights (≤6 h) increase injury risk and impede performance. However, examination ...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Yes there are ways to lessen the impact but the requirement to do so, does not remove the disadvantage.
You can't take a case of 2-3 players who had very long careers such as Pav and Mundy as proof that consistent air travel does not have a negative impact on length of a players career. For all we know, both players, playing in a vic team and travelling only a few times a year could have both of those guys playing over 400 games.
Didn't your side win against the odds in the 1988 VFL grand final vs the demons?If only we could run some sort of experiment for a couple of years where the Vic sides have to travel heaps, sleep in hotels all the time and get no finals at the G.
Are you saying that Geelong fans are sub human compared to Collingwood and other Victorian sides? LoLThe discussion isn't solely travel.
However, if the discussion was solely about travel, why would you group SA teams with WA teams?
Melbourne, North, Richmond and Geelong all travel further in 2024 than Port.
#portbias
But if it's 2 non Vic sides in the grand final, then that is a different situation altogetherIgnoring the obvious won't change anything. All non-Victorian sides know they are up against it in the Grand Final.
You just said Freo has been tough to beat in WA as Hawthorn have in Victoria. That doesn't stack up.
Dockers have won 0 flags.
Hawks have won flags in 1961, 1971, 1976, 1978, 1983, 1986, 1988-9 , 1991, 2008 , 2013-5.
Next thing you are gonna say is
West coast have been tough to beat in WA as saints are in Victoria by your logic.
Well I will never know until Fremantle Dockers men's sides win a flagI did understand, you want to swap places with Collingwood, you think you are hard done by.
Well if they moved the GF to Brisbane till 3000 and we were the only team in Vic, I still wouldn't swap, even if we never won another flag.
It's just a sport, i've said this before, believe it or not, but I enjoyed 2022 more than last year.
You don't have to win for it to be fun.
What they don't get is that it's not our draw that's an advantage - it's our supporter base. Travel evens out - you have the same numbr of games with an advantage as you have with a disadvantage - but Pies draw bigger numbers to our Melbourne away games and thus have a slight advantage in them as well as our Melbourne home games against Vic clubs.Yeah I understand, you would rather have Collingwoods draw and home than yours.
If i'm wrong then explain it, it sure sounds like a sook to me.
I suspect a bit of an exaggeration at play there, similar to the label VicBias itself. The bias is towards the Big Vic clubs like Collingwood. And they and their supporters know it too, hence their determination to dominate the thread to argue there's nothing to see here, move along.
Do you think Pendlebury playing a majority of his games at the MCG i'm assuming quite close to his house has had any bearing on him making it to 400 games?LOL at the google. The article is focussed on in-season impacts of travel in a fixture where teams can play back 2 back games in different cities. With fatigue effects prevalent when less than 72 h of rest is experienced between games.
That doesnt apply to AFL at all, a no teams ever play a game with less than 72 h recovery.
The one interesting point noted in the study was that, the direction of air travel should be considered by NBA teams, as traveling westward exacerbates reductions in performance.
So yes, can now confirm that WA teams have it easier based on that "research".