Play Nice WADA v Essendon 34: Guilty, 2 Yr Susp. (backdated to Mar 2015). Affects 17 current AFL plyrs.

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So what's with Tom Petrovski?

He wears this hipster-style hair and beard... and he works for a bank and wears expensive suits.

Seems like a walking contradiction.
Tom does not care for social conventions.
 
Find it amusing that they need a full commission to determine the Brownlow, but they've already decided that they won't take away draft picks.
Nonsense on stilts
 

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Very well said.

I cannot believe the AFL is still trying to whitewash and play the victim in this; it is a ******* disgrace.

Surely the pressure from the public, sponsors, government etc will become too much. This is so far beyond salary cap cheating it's ridiculous.

I wouldn't be offering big odds on both Gill getting sacked and Essendon getting whacked with a huge fine as the AFL tries to placate anger.

I would also think there would be a number of past and present directors and employees at Essendon who are EXTREMELY worried about future financial liabilities that may be coming their way.
 
What are you on about?

Of eligible players he got equal most votes with Trent Cotchin.

Andy Schleck doesn't see himself as a Tour de France winner even though he's recorded in history as having done so after Contador was busted. Cotchin and Mitchell would feel the same I'd wager.
 
That McVeigh interview is really interesting 3 years later. To be so adamant that everyone knew what they were taking...

Does it not suggest that there's more information than what CAS has been privy to?

And does it not suggest that either players have lied about their ignorance, or that Essendon have lied about the presence of records?
 
Hird on Sunday night.

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Is that Kenneth Copeland?
 

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What are you on about?

Of eligible players he got equal most votes with Trent Cotchin.
I'm well aware of how many votes he received.

It's by default because the medal has already been awarded to someone else. It gets stripped an given to second place, then yeah, it's by default.
It's a very different scenario to winning on the night despite an ineligible player getting more votes, particularly from a players point of view, given they miss out on the presentation and plaudits traditionally given to Brownlow winners.
 
'Doesn't look great for Mark there....'

No Lloydy, it ******* doesn't.
I guess its possible, probable even they thought tb4 was legal.

Once asked by investigators about it though they denied it. Nail in their coffin.
 
Andy Schleck doesn't see himself as a Tour de France winner even though he's recorded in history as having done so after Contador was busted. Cotchin and Mitchell would feel the same I'd wager.

Dunno about Mitchell. He's kind of a campaigner. I'm sure he'd stuff the medal in his Reg Grundys and find a chance to wave it in someones face.
 
I just can't believe how poorly advised the players were. During this whole saga I don't think there was a win on any argument apart from the joke of a tribunal the AFL set up. It seemed all along whenever something appeared to go right or they would leak something, the other side would comeback with something twice as worse.
 
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Winning by default is a horrible way of winning anything

However, given that's not the case here, it presumably wouldn't be an issue.

What has happened is that a bloke on the gear got the most votes at the time, but now he's finally been proven to be on the gear, they're going to take the medal away. If they give it to the second-place getters, that's not "by default" at all.

Maybe the "horrible" bit is how Jobe got all the cash for "winning" it, and the actual winners won't get anything?
 
Also, what it this crap that it's a bad day for footy?

Bad day for Essendon and their players, but not for footy and the comp as a whole. It's good that these practices are punished and not let off on a technicality that record keeping was ridiculously poor (intentionally or not).
It's a bad day for footy because the AFL has been exposed as incompetent at best, corrupt at worst

The AFL administration did all it could to stage manage the outcome it felt did the least amount of damage after one of it's biggest clubs was exposed for running a systematic doping regime.

it has taken an appeal by WADA go CAS to bring the truth into the cold hard light of day and our sport comes out stinking like week old fish guts
 

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