More loam less sand is needed ....days of old we had mud but we didn't have this amount of injury..
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More loam less sand is needed ....days of old we had mud but we didn't have this amount of injury..
Miguel Sanchez
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That’s not the same situation at all. One is a transaction where the parties do business and go their separate ways. The other is an ongoing relationship.
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That then is a take over and not an arrangement of any kind…
It’s in Perth or east perths best interest to win, it’s not the eagles care at all…
Perth and West Coast won't change if nothing changes
One goal. 169 points.Perth scraped the former. West Coast were smashed by the latter.Both clubs can keep their heads in the sand for as long as they want but that is not going to change their fate. Nor their current performances.Perth embrace mediocrity as their trademark.They have not won a...
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Perth and West Coast won't change if nothing changes
One goal. 169 points.Perth scraped the former. West Coast were smashed by the latter.Both clubs can keep their heads in the sand for as long as they want but that is not going to change their fate. Nor their current performances.Perth embrace mediocrity as their trademark.They have not won a...
It’s kinda frustrating how obvious the solution is, yet seemingly unachievable
Carbine Chaos
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That line from the article is the exact response I get from established Perth fans when I raise the alignment issue.
If they haven't aligned with West Coast by 2025 I will change allegiances.
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We may see Perth as a basketcase club with little value but for the supporters it would be like asking Freo fans to merge with us. I totally get it.
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What do they lose exactly though? Complete control over the players picked in their team and where they're played.
What do they gain? Funding, access to some (potentially) higher quality players, likely increase to gate/gameday takings and memberships.
Name, colours, history, home ground etc etc all stay the same. If anything throwing away the chance to stop their slide into irrelevancy and insolvency due to misplaced pride.
Seems like a kinda dumb decision to make for a team/league in their positions to me.
Why not offer to align and give full power over player selections to the WAFL club? Maybe with the caveat that any WCE listed player not selected for WAFL seniors gets selected for WAFL reserves?
Sounds like this is the major sticking point about an alignment, that their ambitions to win will come secondary to Eagles controls.
End of the day, playing WAFLfor WCE listed players is about match fitness and winning senior selection. If a WCE listed player isn't good enough for WAFL seniors selection, he's not going to push for an AFL game either. So I don't understand why the Eagles would demand players get played in the seniors, let alone in what positions?
Failing the alignment, why not trade recruitment restrictions for WAFL finals footy? Beagles play WAFL H&A, but are ineligible for finals.
You might question why any WAFL quality talent would want to play for the Beagles under those circumstances? I would bet that there's depth players at WAFL clubs who want to prove themselves and would be willing to have a 'gap year' at an Beagles team to further their long term WAFL careers.
Sounds like this is the major sticking point about an alignment, that their ambitions to win will come secondary to Eagles controls.
End of the day, playing WAFLfor WCE listed players is about match fitness and winning senior selection. If a WCE listed player isn't good enough for WAFL seniors selection, he's not going to push for an AFL game either. So I don't understand why the Eagles would demand players get played in the seniors, let alone in what positions?
Failing the alignment, why not trade recruitment restrictions for WAFL finals footy? Beagles play WAFL H&A, but are ineligible for finals.
You might question why any WAFL quality talent would want to play for the Beagles under those circumstances? I would bet that there's depth players at WAFL clubs who want to prove themselves and would be willing to have a 'gap year' at an Beagles team to further their long term WAFL careers.
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Additionally if and when we finally align with a WAFL team I will purchase a membership and follow them around wherever they're playing on Saturdays as I feel I get more out of their games than I do from the AFL experience these days.
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There’s no VFL reserves comp any more.
That'll do it!
Cap the representation we can have playing league for Perf. 10? 12? With our recent injury history it'll rarely be a problem but if we are fully fit then a mix of up and coming kids, managed minutes players or elder statesmen have a run in the ressies. Those who shine move up to league. Those who don't shine in league move back to ressies.
Perth and West Coast won't change if nothing changes
One goal. 169 points.Perth scraped the former. West Coast were smashed by the latter.Both clubs can keep their heads in the sand for as long as they want but that is not going to change their fate. Nor their current performances.Perth embrace mediocrity as their trademark.They have not won a...
If West Coast are not going to swallow their pride by distributing their players across the rest of the WAFL – the model that brought them their first three premierships and five grand final appearances – there is only one option for them.
Blunt but completely fair (and spot on)
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I understand the apprehension because there’s a risk that Perth loses some of its identity as a WAFL club and is beholden to someone else when it comes to management of its team.
Spent enough time in the Leederville stand watching our alignment team at East Perth to get that the attitude towards the Eagles ranged from lukewarm at best to openly hostile
That said, if Perth play it smart they have a strong bargaining position with both the Eagles and the WAFC to ensure they’re protected
Whilst a standalone team is clearly the eagles preferred option and, in a perfect world, their best one we’ve seen it’s too dependent on availability for that model to properly succeed. So they need an alignment as the next best solution- scattering players across the league is a distant third
The WAFC need a competitive Perth which it currently isn’t and the Beagles compromise the competition with their form fluctuating in line with availability
Perth should be eyeing off our bank balance and requesting financial help to upgrade their own facilities. They could also request parameters around team selection and a commitment from the WAFC to provide assistance if/when the AFL introduces its own reserves competition
There’s a solution there but for the rusted on supporters who seem content to see their club sink into irrelevance rather than jump in the lifeboat
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Be far superior to what we've got now though. Schoey says it was the best model for his development (having played under all 3)
At least our kids would be getting some benefit compared to the last wasted few years
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God, I hope so.
Untill we have a reserve side like the VFL does then the merge is the best solution going foeward.
What are your observations re: stakeholders within the Demons?
Are Players, coaches, fans, past players, admin/hierarchy all equally opposed?
I would imagine each group has differing degrees of opposition/agreement.
There seems to be quite a few people who have had long associations with WC within the club.
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Peth has never had a strong identity. As someone on here mentioned once, "they call themselves the Demons but they play in Essendon's colours and their theme song is same melody as the Adelaide Crows". Bar the 1960s and 70s they've been the least successful of the established WAFL clubs and their lack of identity is IMO part of the reason.
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