Current WAR CRIMES Israel - Hamas - Hezbollah - Houthis

[DapperDon]

How many were Hamas using for military purposes is the better question. If it's being used by Hamas to harm the enemy, that is a war crime as it loses the hospital's protected status and allows it to be raided under certain conditions.

According to Israel, Hamas have used 80% of the buildings, tents and moving cars in Gaza.

It's impressive the know all this, but couldn't see any of them charging the wall, fences on Oct 07

 

[Kurve]

Money must be getting really tight in there, how about a weapons buy-back scheme?

Armed looters are stealing all the food to resell for profit.

UN says more than 100 aid trucks in Gaza have been lost to looting

The convoy was travelling through southern Gaza on Saturday when the UN's Palestinian aid agency UNRWA says it was set upon by armed gunmen.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Jazny]

Money must be getting really tight in there, how about a weapons buy-back scheme?

Armed looters are stealing all the food to resell for profit.

UN says more than 100 aid trucks in Gaza have been lost to looting

The convoy was travelling through southern Gaza on Saturday when the UN's Palestinian aid agency UNRWA says it was set upon by armed gunmen.

www.abc.net.au

And Hamas losing control. Responsibility of aid delivery once inside Gaza is with aid agencies and local authorities. It seems Hamas aren't able to deter looting. They should just surrender at this point and save lives. Hamas' killed 20 looters but were apparently unable to stop the trucks being looted.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

That’s weird. Israel keeps telling us that UN is Hamas.

 

[faible]

Money must be getting really tight in there, how about a weapons buy-back scheme?

Armed looters are stealing all the food to resell for profit.

UN says more than 100 aid trucks in Gaza have been lost to looting

The convoy was travelling through southern Gaza on Saturday when the UN's Palestinian aid agency UNRWA says it was set upon by armed gunmen.

www.abc.net.au

Some additional info from the NYT; convoy was instructed to leave early and sent via an unfamiliar route.

Looters Strip Aid From About 100 Trucks in Gaza, U.N. Agency Says

UNRWA, the main U.N. agency aiding Palestinians, said its drivers were forced at gunpoint to unload supplies in what it called one of the worst such incidents of the war.

www.nytimes.com

The convoy had been scheduled to enter Gaza on Sunday, but the Israeli military instructed it to leave a day earlier “at short notice via an alternate, unfamiliar route,” he U.N. agency said.

Ms. Wateridge told The New York Times that her agency was instructed a day before the scheduled transport that the convoy had to leave within 30 minutes — creating a huge logistical risk for drivers, who had little mobile data access to plan for the new routes safely.

 

[Kurve]

Erdogan took Hamas leaders in against a warning not to, after they were kicked out of Qatar. It might get a bit wild given Turkey is NATO.

Maybe Erdogan would like to relieve them of some of their billions before handing them over.

 

[Zidane98]

lol you're cooked mate.

How many times have I said Hamas aren't the good guys?

The article you linked is from October 2023.

Both FA articles are from 2024, when more information - and time to analyse it - has been available.

The FA conclusion is that; it wasn't an airstrike, it also wasn't a misfired rocket from the video (and there was an absolute deluge of IDF propaganda about that) therefore inconclusive. If you read the article

Meanwhile, what about the 30 odd other hospitals Israel has definitely attacked directly? Or the one's that have been laid siege to? Or invaded and occupied? The UN calls them war crimes and crimes against humanity.



It's actually bloody hilarious at this point. Israel has committed such a scale of atrocities and you're still sitting there going 'yeah but Hamas aren't the good guys!' as though anyone is even arguing that?

Catch up dude, this isn't October 2023, get some new material.

I know you won't even, for a moment, consider anything except the version of events you're sold on, but here's a quote from the FA article and a doctor on site. I'm sure he's anti-Israeli Government too of course, so you can dismiss whatever he says.



As to why Israel might not have simply admitted they did this? They had a theory for that too.

In this post we have:


IDF whataboutisms -

Cognitive dissonance in the face of overwhelming evidence PIJ / Hamas are guilty

Absolutely zero condemnation of PIJ / Hamas murdering Palestinian civilians on a large scale in Gaza

Ignoring multiple credible sources all of which found PIJ / Hamas are responsible and many which initially reported Israel was responsible, retracted and concluded PIJ / Hamas was responsible

Citing an employee of ministry of health in Gaza (who operate under Hamas ) as evidence. Desperately sticking to a FA report even though a quick check of this source shows it to have a heavily anti-Israeli government and can't even quote a source for its findings


It's hilarious that everything I predicted you would post - you posted like clockwork.

There's no being sold on anything here either. The facts prove beyond reasonable doubt PIJ / Hamas murdered Palestinian civilians on a large scale taking shelter in the Ah Ahli hospital courtyard. This is why pretty much all foreign intelligence organisatios and all respected international media organisations have come to this conclusion too.

Hamas knows it too, after initially attempting to use the massacre for propaganda purposes claiming nearly 500 civilians were murdered they've walked way from it and have generally tried to bury any narrative about it. There is of course no Israeli munitions recovered from the site of the explosion.

You do you though and continue to not hold Hamas/PIJ accountable for a large scale massacre of Palestinian civilians in Gaza.

 

[faible]

In this post we have:


IDF whataboutisms -

Cognitive dissonance in the face of overwhelming evidence PIJ / Hamas are guilty

Absolutely zero condemnation of PIJ / Hamas murdering Palestinian civilians on a large scale in Gaza

Ignoring multiple credible sources all of which found PIJ / Hamas are responsible and many which initially reported Israel was responsible, retracted and concluded PIJ / Hamas was responsible

Citing an employee of ministry of health in Gaza (who operate under Hamas ) as evidence. Desperately sticking to a FA report even though a quick check of this source shows it to have a heavily anti-Israeli government and can't even quote a source for its findings


It's hilarious that everything I predicted you would post - you posted like clockwork.

There's no being sold on anything here either. The facts prove beyond reasonable doubt PIJ / Hamas murdered Palestinian civilians on a large scale taking shelter in the Ah Ahli hospital courtyard. This is why pretty much all foreign intelligence organisatios and all respected international media organisations have come to this conclusion too.

Hamas knows it too, after initially attempting to use the massacre for propaganda purposes claiming nearly 500 civilians were murdered they've walked way from it and have generally tried to bury any narrative about it. There is of course no Israeli munitions recovered from the site of the explosion.

You do you though and continue to not hold Hamas/PIJ accountable for a large scale massacre of Palestinian civilians in Gaza.

It's actually bloody hilarious at this point. Israel has committed such a scale of atrocities and you're still sitting there going 'yeah but Hamas aren't the good guys!' as though anyone is even arguing that?

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

And Hamas losing control. Responsibility of aid delivery once inside Gaza is with aid agencies and local authorities. It seems Hamas aren't able to deter looting. They should just surrender at this point and save lives. Hamas' killed 20 looters but were apparently unable to stop the trucks being looted.

Looters got in before Hamas? That takes nerve.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

This is the war crime. Return these children and the other hostages. The other war crime is the UN not demanding this.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Have you attempted to verify the validity of this interview? Who made this interview, where was it made under what circumstances? I can find nothing on it apart from a few ultra Pro Palestinian sources including an Al-Jazeera journalist. Certainly not published by any credible media outlet. They supposedly "gained access to the private accounts" of alleged snipers. No verification of how this happened.

The same source you quoted also incorrectly reported that Israel bombed Al-Alhi hospital:



Not saying it isn't true but you're going to need better sources than a couple of obviously anti-Israel pro Palestinian sources that have posted disinformation in the past to give your claims any credibility.

The interview is there for you to watch. There's no coercion, no duress, just open admission of what most of us have known for years, and what some of you still try and deny.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

How many were Hamas using for military purposes is the better question. If it's being used by Hamas to harm the enemy, that is a war crime as it loses the hospital's protected status and allows it to be raided under certain conditions.

Do we have to post the picture of calendar guy? The video of the vast underground Hamas bunker that never existed? The weapons found planted behind the MRI machine?

Israel have deliberately degraded Gaza's health system in order to make existence in Gaza more difficult. I'm yet to see any evidence of Hamas using hospitals for military operations.

This is what they're doing to hospital patients in northern Gaza right now.



These people are on crutches, some with surgical drains still coming out from their bodies.

It is cold at night in northern Gaza right now.

Each Israeli soldier here is breaking Geneva conventions.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

And Hamas losing control. Responsibility of aid delivery once inside Gaza is with aid agencies and local authorities. It seems Hamas aren't able to deter looting. They should just surrender at this point and save lives. Hamas' killed 20 looters but were apparently unable to stop the trucks being looted.

No. The IDF are encouraging, protecting and supporting ISIS affiliated gangs to loot the aid. These gangs operate in a compound controlled and secured by the IDF.





Do you feel as if you're being taken for a ride yet?

 

[Zidane98]

The interview is there for you to watch. There's no coercion, no duress, just open admission of what most of us have known for years, and what some of you still try and deny.

That wasn't the question I asked. That was have you made any attempt to fact check the interview. Time, geolocation, confirmation of identity etc. Have you asked yourself why this isn't being quoted by credible media organisations? Probably not.

It appears you've made no attempt to do so and taken as gospel the information being presented to you without any verification.

 

[Jazny]

Do we have to post the picture of calendar guy?

Go for it, I love the calendar guy. I want to make a 2025 Calendar that features pictures of him for every month of the year. The calendar started on October 7th and had the battle of Al Aqsa written on it. Strange thing to have in a hospital basement but okay it's not a smoking gun. He shows very odd looking rooms that probably wouldn't be expected to see under a hospital. As well as these things which don't look like normal medical supplies to me.

US intelligence also believes that some of these hospitals were used as bases for operations for Hamas.


Why the improvised toilet in a basement? And whats with that holding looking room with curtains to nowhere in the basement of a hospital? Who is chilling out down there in improvised rooms?

But omg the calendar didn't have names written on it. Why focus on the calendar? Because the other stuff is kind of hard to explain. But he misspoke or didn't know that names weren't written on the calendar so it's all a big lie. Cool story.

So how many hospitals were being used by Hamas? That's the important question, not really how many have Israel attacked. Israel could attack every single hospital in Gaza and be perfectly justified if Hamas is using them as bases. I would be blaming Hamas if that's the case. But I don't know the answer to that, but I will back in US and Israeli intelligence over armchair experts on twitter.

No. The IDF are encouraging, protecting and supporting ISIS affiliated gangs to loot the aid. These gangs operate in a compound controlled and secured by the IDF.

Doesn't matter who has military control of an area, the responsibility for the delivery of aid according to international law is on the local authorities in coordination with aid agencies. Once the aid is in Gaza, it's not Israel's responsibility. That's why Hamas are fighting the looters. If they are so weakened they can't even provide the basics for their own people, it might be time to surrender and release all the hostage and end this stupid war they started.

Weird how it goes from reports that the IDF are not intervening in aid delivery disputes in Gaza, to the IDF are encouraging and protecting them

 

[Jazny]

The interview is there for you to watch. There's no coercion, no duress, just open admission of what most of us have known for years, and what some of you still try and deny.

Where is the interview? I need the context for what he is saying, I don't necessarily disbelieve someone said it, but why the screen shots with subtitles instead of a video? Where is the video?

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Where is the interview? I need the context for what he is saying, I don't necessarily disbelieve someone said it, but why the screen shots with subtitles instead of a video? Where is the video?

Sorry, thought I'd replied to that.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

This sounds a little xenophobic. Who are you saying are going around believing they are superior to Palestinians? All of Israel? It's my understanding, but I could be wrong on this, that there is a somewhat significant number of arab Israelis and secular Jews in the IDF. I don't think some weird Jewish supremacist thing can account for the IDF soldiers shooting children and nobody reporting it. It's the first i have heard this explanation.

Have you not seen the self-posted images of IDF urinating on the Quran? I don't think they're too worried about their Mulsim colleagues feelings when they're doing that.

Where is this interview from? I couldn't find it when I went searching.

Poorly edited video package by a Palestinian journalist. Not vouching for anything, but the interview seems pretty straightforward to me.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Rape is the lesser offence to murder with most of the victims dead, so you might be right and they won't make charges unless they're raised against those who have confessed to rape.

Yes, I know you're going to say that confessions in Israeli custody don't count.

Not sure why you removed my reply to this - can I safely say that confessions under torture are not accepted in a court no matter who is doing the torturing?

 

[Kurve]

Not sure why you removed my reply to this - can I safely say that confessions under torture are not accepted in a court no matter who is doing the torturing?

I removed your reply because you're trolling on rape denial

 

[Kurve]

Not sure why you removed my reply to this - can I safely say that confessions under torture are not accepted in a court no matter who is doing the torturing?

Don't make assumptions that those who confessed to rape were tortured in to it.

But be assured, if I'd seen them strung up in stress positions with their feet being beaten and their tendons cut before they confessed, I'd dismiss their confessions.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Don't make assumptions that those who confessed to rape were tortured in to it.

Have they been charged? You believe they won't be charged with sexual violence becuase they also murdered their victims? I've seen some police procedurals and I don't think that's how it works.

Their stories often don't even make sense, the facts change during the telling.

But be assured, if I'd seen them strung up in stress positions with their feet being beaten and their tendons cut before they confessed, I'd dismiss their confessions.

Are the IDF going to show that part?

 

[Kurve]

Have they been charged? You believe they won't be charged with sexual violence becuase they also murdered their victims? I've seen some police procedurals and I don't think that's how it works.

Their stories often don't even make sense, the facts change during the telling.



Are the IDF going to show that part?

You'd have to be a radical blinded in your one eye to persist in claiming no sexual assaults occurred on October 7.