War with China, to allow us to continue being the seppos bitch?

[TheHateful62]

US navy commander urges Australia to carry out patrols in disputed islands in the South China Sea
By David Wroe
Feb. 23, 2016, 1:15 a.m.


One of the United States' most senior navy commanders has said he would like Australia to carry out naval patrols close to territory claimed by Beijing in the South China Sea - a move that would provoke significant anger within the Chinese government.


US navy commander urges Australia to carry out patrols in disputed islands in the South China Sea

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  Testing the waters: Vice Admiral Joseph Aucoin. Photo: Nick Moir
  
  
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  Ships of Chinese Coast Guard are seen near the Chinese oil rig Haiyang Shi You 981 in disputed waters in the South China Sea.
  
  
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  Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi and Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop in Beijing last week. Photo: Wu Hong
  
  
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  Satellite images of Woody Island, the largest of the Paracel Islands in the South China Sea. A US official confirmed that China has placed a surface-to-air missile system on Woody Island in the Paracel chain. Photo: ImageSat International
  
  
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  Testing the waters: Vice Admiral Joseph Aucoin. Photo: Nick Moir
  
  
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  Ships of Chinese Coast Guard are seen near the Chinese oil rig Haiyang Shi You 981 in disputed waters in the South China Sea.
  

Ships of Chinese Coast Guard are seen near the Chinese oil rig Haiyang Shi You 981 in disputed waters in the South China Sea.

Ships of Chinese Coast Guard are seen near the Chinese oil rig Haiyang Shi You 981 in disputed waters in the South China Sea.

Sailing within 12 nautical miles constitutes a challenge to territorial claims as this is the distance sovereignty extends from land into the sea.

Admiral Aucoin's comments go considerably further than any US figure has done before. Admiral Aucoin, who is visiting several cities including Canberra, said he was discussing the South China Sea with Australian counterparts but had "not specifically" discussed patrols within 12 nautical miles.

As commander of the 7th Fleet - the US's largest - Admiral Aucoin is in charge of the two US ships that have so far carried out such patrols.

Admiral Aucoin also vowed that the presence of Chinese missiles on islands would not deter the US from continuing freedom of navigation operations.

He said he was surprised and concerned by the "scale and speed" of China's island-building, which he condemned as "destabilising".

http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/...disputed-islands-in-the-south-china-sea/?cs=8

Is it wise to poke the sleeping dragon? I would of thought not.

 

[Xsess]

I've always assumed dragons aren't real

 

[Play by Numbers]

Is it wise to poke the sleeping dragon? I would of thought not.

Yeah nah.

The American war machine is vast. They have military officials who shoot off their mouths in the press regularly.

 

[TheHateful62]

I've always assumed dragons aren't real

I had a Tom Clancy moment

 

[CM86]

I've always assumed dragons aren't real

You're scared of plenty of imaginary things... why stop at dragons?

 

[RUNVS]

Is it wise to poke the sleeping dragon? I would of thought not.

We should not get involved. It would be like a Yorkshire Terrier trying to get involved in a fight between two tanks.

 

[Xsess]

I had a Tom Clancy moment

Yeah and presumably John Lennon poked Yoko Ono.

You could argue she's a dragon

 

[pazza]

Our only involvement should be at the diplomatic level.

 

[Gough]

We need to move to the Non-Aligned Movement, doubly so if Trump gets up.

 

[Rob]

I don't really see the point. We can grandstand about the fairness of it all, but in the end it's not a fight we need to be a part of. Not yet anyway.

 

[NSWCROW]

I had a Tom Clancy moment

RED STORM RISING !!!!!

 

[Power Raid]

Korea, Japan, Philippines, Laos, Vietnam, india, Tibet, Taiwan etc all have china grabbing land and asserting dominance over the region.

At what point should this be stopped and by whom? Who knows but it's best resolved by diplomacy than war but diplomacy without muscle and a united voice is generally weak.

 

[Xsess]

Australia, Korea, Japan, Philippines, Laos, Vietnam, india, Tibet, Taiwan etc all have china grabbing land and asserting dominance over the region.

ETA

 

[Pessimistic]

we have to build the damn things first.

so we sell all our infrastructure to the Chinese just to buy weapons to fight them? and they say the climate people are loopy

 

[Elroo]

Korea, Japan, Philippines, Laos, Vietnam, india, Tibet, Taiwan etc all have china grabbing land and asserting dominance over the region.

At what point should this be stopped and by whom? Who knows but it's best resolved by diplomacy than war but diplomacy without muscle and a united voice is generally weak.

You answered your own question.

 

[Power Raid]

You answered your own question.

Divide and conquer sounds like a clear win for china in that case.

Will Japan and co come to our aid I our time of need if we don't act now? A united voice is stronger and may prevent war

 

[Power Raid]

we have to build the damn things first.

so we sell all our infrastructure to the Chinese just to buy weapons to fight them? and they say the climate people are loopy

If your referring to the dairy.....we didn't sell it to them.

The Chinese bought it from other foreigners

 

[Pessimistic]

If your referring to the dairy.....we didn't sell it to them.

The Chinese bought it from other foreigners

port of Darwin etc etc

not sure a dairy is infrastructure

 

[Elroo]

Divide and conquer sounds like a clear win for china in that case.

Will Japan and co come to our aid I our time of need if we don't act now? A united voice is stronger and may prevent war

You named 8 countries who are currently having an issue with China re land; you believe Australia should step up and fight China rather than the 8?

The united voice is the 8 countries standing together rather than Australia spending billions of taxpayers dollars to get involved.

 

[Power Raid]

You named 8 countries who are currently having an issue with China re land; you believe Australia should step up and fight China rather than the 8?

The united voice is the 8 countries standing together rather than Australia spending billions of taxpayers dollars to get involved.

I personally don't support the defence force spending billions. I also don't support not being prepared for inevitable conflict with china.

We can do this much better but the electorate won't support it.

 

[Pessimistic]

Its going to be embarrassing if its the chinese who rescue our antarctic vessel.

What are they doing outside chinese waters anyway?

 

[Pessimistic]

Why cant we get closer to china anyway? Its the chinese century

Whats so different to the yanks? More similarities than we care to admit

 

[Rob]

we have to build the damn things first.

so we sell all our infrastructure to the Chinese just to buy weapons to fight them? and they say the climate people are loopy

I'm not necessarily opposed to it - for the simple reason that giving them an interest in Australia makes it against their interest to be in conflict with us.

 

[Power Raid]

Why cant we get closer to china anyway? Its the chinese century

Whats so different to the yanks? More similarities than we care to admit

The chinese officials openly admit they are copying the US model

 

[Power Raid]

port of Darwin etc etc

not sure a dairy is infrastructure

that's a real interesting one as it is one of our two ports licensed for uranium