Toast Warren Tredrea - Elected to the Port Board (Football discussion only)

[Poo Eckert]

So I assume Darren Cahill supporting Wazza is cooked also then? They’re obviously close!

 

[bomberclifford]

“What if somebody is r*ped!?”

Vote 1: Abernethy.

 

[silverfingers]

Interesting single out. Everyone else looks at those five and wonders what any of them have done.

Because she's literally done nothing.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

I understand we want a smart football person on the board to question the status quo and ultimately, develop a plan to replace Hinkley. Tredrea is clearly that. But I don't think you can ring fence footy decisions from the other decisions at a board level.

What happens if there is a need to investigate a serious sexual assault or coward violence matter? Tredrea literally follows Andrew Tate FFS.

What happens if there is a need to develop a strategy in response to a concussion policy that has medical ramifications? Tredrea is a documented disbeliever of qualified medical professionals

What happens if there is a need to develop an assessment of our risk profile that is reliant on scientific advice and research? Tredrea is documented as being a climate change sceptic.

What happens when we need to have public relations strategy to manage a delicate and/or confidential matter with the media? Tredrea is into that weird all media is evil type thinking

What happens if there is a commercial and litigation based issue which the club needs to make astute tactical decisions on? Tredrea has made some very dumb public decisions in this space.

It's not about politics. It's about professional judgement and risk.

All in all, the blokes a dumb campaigner, as much as he was legend of a footballer and is aligned with what many (me included) want RE Hinkley coaching, to me, the ends still don't justify the means and there is simply too much risk.

Independent football review committee - put him on there. Coaching review and audit - sign him up.

Board position? I want someone that can shake the football operations up AND provide smart, strategic, commercial, risk aware governance and leadership. The club deserves that.

Disappointed that there weren't other options but am hopeful that if Tredrea is in there the checks and balances can be put in place to prevent him from putting the club into an even worse position than it is now.

Don't worry about all of that garbage.

Tredders is going to be on the board for winning and ruthlessness.

We need at least one guy at the club into that.

 

[the_inknkwn]

When does voting end and 'winner' announced?

 

[Doctor Feel]

“What if somebody is r*ped!?”

Vote 1: Abernethy.

 

[Visenfest]

5 minutes of scrolling his twitter likes

Liked a post about Kochie and Natalie Barr going to jail for being part of the 'MSM' and promoting vaccines
climate change denial
chemtrail
vote NO if you don't want to lose your property to the UN
thinks Trump is secretly still president because he travelled somewhere with a motorcade
loves pauline hanson and craig kelly

yea i think hes probably cooked... i'd still vote for him if I was a member though. hopefully he can get Kochie arrested.

What’s wrong with liking posts/images of Kochie being arrested? It’s some of the Internet’s finest work.

 

[TazD]

Because she's literally done nothing.

And the others?

 

[Chewy316]

When does voting end and 'winner' announced?

Voting closes 5pm next Wednesday.
Winner announced at the AGM on the Friday night, though I suspect it will leak out before then.

 

[Portology]

I understand we want a smart football person on the board to question the status quo and ultimately, develop a plan to replace Hinkley. Tredrea is clearly that. But I don't think you can ring fence footy decisions from the other decisions at a board level.

What happens if there is a need to investigate a serious sexual assault or coward violence matter? Tredrea literally follows Andrew Tate FFS.

What happens if there is a need to develop a strategy in response to a concussion policy that has medical ramifications? Tredrea is a documented disbeliever of qualified medical professionals

What happens if there is a need to develop an assessment of our risk profile that is reliant on scientific advice and research? Tredrea is documented as being a climate change sceptic.

What happens when we need to have public relations strategy to manage a delicate and/or confidential matter with the media? Tredrea is into that weird all media is evil type thinking

What happens if there is a commercial and litigation based issue which the club needs to make astute tactical decisions on? Tredrea has made some very dumb public decisions in this space.

It's not about politics. It's about professional judgement and risk.

All in all, the blokes a dumb campaigner, as much as he was legend of a footballer and is aligned with what many (me included) want RE Hinkley coaching, to me, the ends still don't justify the means and there is simply too much risk.

Independent football review committee - put him on there. Coaching review and audit - sign him up.

Board position? I want someone that can shake the football operations up AND provide smart, strategic, commercial, risk aware governance and leadership. The club deserves that.

Disappointed that there weren't other options but am hopeful that if Tredrea is in there the checks and balances can be put in place to prevent him from putting the club into an even worse position than it is now.

Share some of these concerns but voted for him instead of Abba, this time around. I wonder about some of the replies you've got on here, seems fair enough to ask those seeking disruption about guard rails. Prepared to give him a chance to stick to footy and to STFU about other stuff while representing us. Hope the calculated gamble pays off. Disrupt too-comfortable elements in the footy department, but don't "chaos the club". The one guard rail, if I have it right, is the AFL power to unilaterally remove a club director if they go off the rails. Don't want to contemplate Koch's smug mug announcing that.

 

[morell]

That’s why there’s a board and not a dictatorship.

Though at the moment Koch has way too much influence, so someone like Tredrea will hopefully break that monopoly a little.

So all your worries would be alleviated by a dissenting voice, not caused.

Yeah agree, if it was for chairman or CEO I'd be much more concerned.

My overall point was that both options are shit and the club deserves better than deciding between lunacy and incompetence - which when it boils down to it, is the true nature of the choice.

We've been so beaten down for so long that not only are we willing to accept what is perceived to be the lesser of two evils - lunacy - we're actually excited about it.

Sad times.

 

[morell]

“What if somebody is r*ped!?”

Vote 1: Abernethy.

Scroll back up and read earlier post, this is the epitome of a straw man.

And if you don't think that situation is realistic, you haven't been paying attention

 

[morell]

Don't worry about all of that garbage.

Tredders is going to be on the board for winning and ruthlessness.

We need at least one guy at the club into that.

They're connected. We can't have (sustainable) winning and ruthlessness without good governance and decision making.

 

[morell]

Share some of these concerns but voted for him instead of Abba, this time around. I wonder about some of the replies you've got on here, seems fair enough to ask those seeking disruption about guard rails. Prepared to give him a chance to stick to footy and to STFU about other stuff while representing us. Hope the calculated gamble pays off. Disrupt too-comfortable elements in the footy department, but don't "chaos the club". The one guard rail, if I have it right, is the AFL power to unilaterally remove a club director if they go off the rails. Don't want to contemplate Koch's smug mug announcing that.

More than fair and many of the replies are just typical football forum bullshit, no drams with me

 

[Rendaw]

Haha people actually think Tredrea is too crazy to go on the board? We have people on the board that know nothing about football yet our only AFL premiership captain isnt a good fit? Its a football club board he is there for his football experience which we are sorely lacking.

If you only want to vote for someone who you agree with 100% of all their views then you will never be happy.

 

[Papa G]

Lol. Morell thinks Tredrea is leading an Alberton Putsch. Must be reading Mein Premiership.

 

[Honeyboy Wilson]

5 minutes of scrolling his twitter likes

Liked a post about Kochie and Natalie Barr going to jail for being part of the 'MSM' and promoting vaccines
climate change denial
chemtrail
vote NO if you don't want to lose your property to the UN
thinks Trump is secretly still president because he travelled somewhere with a motorcade
loves pauline hanson and craig kelly

yea i think hes probably cooked... i'd still vote for him if I was a member though. hopefully he can get Kochie arrested.

You got me curious on that one... Some of the tweets he's liked were very much in the yikes basket.

Liking a fake quote from Kurt Cobain "predicting" Donald Trump would one day be president and that he would be a hero of the people gave me a chuckle though.

A concerned chuckle, but a chuckle all the same.

Still... Port needs him so we can hopefully spark even a modicum of change.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

They're connected. We can't have (sustainable) winning and ruthlessness without good governance and decision making.

They are not necessarily connected.

You can have good governance and decision making but your centre of gravity at the club is making money and keeping your job for as long as you can. It just depends on how you define good governance.

From the outside, it looks like the club is run by an unaccountable, petty tyrant and when people call Kcohbrain and Kenny Average out, they are kicked out of the Boys Club. They definitely fall under the poor governance and poor decision making. There is a litany of evidence from people close to the source from this website alone.

Tredders just brings the pillar of severity and harshness that is needed to win premierships. It is long overdue. For example, someone asking Kenny Average, what the Hell is Jed doing in the 23? Please explain? Or Boaky, you are a great player for the club but can you sharpen up your goal kicking, especially late in games.

When it comes down to it, David Koch is the worst thing ever to happen to the Port Adelaide Football Club.

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

Obviously we don't want any crazy alt right stuff creeping in at board level. But it would be pretty funny if it caused Holly Ransom to quit.

 

[TeeKray]

I honestly couldn't care less if Tredders turns half the club into QAnon subscribers, if he helps us win a premiership then fantastic.

 

[chiwigi]

Yeah agree, if it was for chairman or CEO I'd be much more concerned.

My overall point was that both options are s**t and the club deserves better than deciding between lunacy and incompetence - which when it boils down to it, is the true nature of the choice.

We've been so beaten down for so long that not only are we willing to accept what is perceived to be the lesser of two evils - lunacy - we're actually excited about it.

Sad times..

For a school, you're absolutely correct.

For a footy club? Very different aims, WIN.

 

[El Zorro]

Let me start by saying that I voted for Tredrea. But I suggest everyone temper their expectations of what he can achieve for the club given 1) his level of influence as a director and 2) his gaps in skills and knowledge.

He'd be a good addition to the board but, in reality, his appointment will be more a vote of non-confidence on the current board than anything else.

I would be happy if he wins but I don't expect a saviour. The comments that imply that a Tredrea win in the board election equals imminent premierships are a bit silly really.

 

[bomberclifford]

Scroll back up and read earlier post, this is the epitome of a straw man.

And if you don't think that situation is realistic, you haven't been paying attention

What I posted was a deliberate parodying of the extreme nonsense you posted. In all honesty it was more than it deserved.

You posted several extreme hypotheticals totally divorced from reality. Even at his worst, there is nothing in Tredrea's life thus far that would suggest he would do any of the things you've written. Nothing.

The suggestion that you think Tredrea would attempt to derail a sexual assault investigation just because he liked some Andrew Tate tweets is hands down the most moronic thing I think I've read on this forum. And that's just the first one you rattled off. The rest were just extrapolating on your perception on his 'beliefs' to make it sound like he's a loose cannon.

It's irrelevant that you've said you would vote for him anyway, because you've laid down some seriously slanderous stuff with absolutely no evidence at all, just your 'hunch' based on him clicking a thumbs up button on some social media posts you didn't like.

You're trying to demonise a man to build up your own moralistic credibility in a situation where it isn't even relevant.

Do better.

 

[Powerade 08]

Has Glenn Mudie nominated his preferred candidate? Why didn't he run?

 

[ibd77]

Let me start by saying that I voted for Tredrea. But I suggest everyone temper their expectations of what he can achieve for the club given 1) his level of influence as a director and 2) his gaps in skills and knowledge.

He'd be a good addition to the board but, in reality, his appointment will be more a vote of non-confidence on the current board than anything else.

I would be happy if he wins but I don't expect a saviour. The comments that imply that a Tredrea win in the board election equals imminent premierships are a bit silly really.

I think everyone is hoping for accountability that has been lacking since 2015. I hope Tredrea pushes the accountability and transparency agenda back into the board and shift the focus back to on-field success.