Same reason we didn't pick Michael Walters when we had the chance I guess
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Bias against the Black Ducks.
Cransberg should of dealt with this as a priority !!!!.
Ever since we were burned by Notte...
We did recruit Willie when we would have usually not picked a crumber with our picks.
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Laird, Neale, Dickson and B Hill are very good players. Other than hill they are speculative picks that all other clubs overlooked and are players that have succeeded beyond expectations at draft time.
Hill would have been a better selection than Newman but we can only speculate how well muzzas career would be boding now if not for a moment of madness that screwed his career
Describing the others as very good is a stretch and in some cases downright laughable
Rule out any KPD because at the time we had Glass as well as brown, Mackenzie and Schofield all were all under 25. Same with rucks - they weren't needed
Kersten is the only KPF on your list chosen after McInnes and he struggled at Geelong nor is he a genuine KPF anyway, more a third tall
Who needs crumbers when you can draft small mids and play them in a pocket!
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Anyone else think we would have won another flag if had of picked Walters? Imagine our forward line with Walters in it.
Only took a decade or so.
Only time we have taken pure small forwards is recycling failed players in the rookie draft - Dick and Bedford.
Edit - and Lewis Broome with pick 200 in the rookie draft. He's not a small forward though, he was a microforward.
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I didn't say that every player I listed was very good, just that there were some very good players taken late. That list of players was to prove that it was a deep draft, which it was. Every player I listed has played a decent amount of games and had a bigger impact than any of the guys we took in that draft. The post was in response to someone saying that the 2011 draft was compromised, using it as an excuse for our poor drafting. I think that's bullshit, we could have drafted well and gotten plenty of good players out of that draft, we just didn't identify the right players.
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I know that is history now, but apart from Shuey at pick 18, the 2008 draft was a debacle for us.
We picked:
20 - Tom Swift
36 - Ash Smith
52 - Jordan Jones
Could have picked:
29 - Dayne Beams
30 - Daniel Hanneberry
34 - Liam Shiels
38 - Matthew Broadbent
39 - Stephen Motlop
44 - Rory Sloane
53 - Michael Walters
We picked:
20 - Tom Swift
36 - Ash Smith
52 - Jordan Jones
Could have picked:
29 - Dayne Beams
30 - Daniel Hanneberry
34 - Liam Shiels
38 - Matthew Broadbent
39 - Stephen Motlop
44 - Rory Sloane
53 - Michael Walters
Easy in hindsight and Walters has had his issues on his journey that he may or may not of sorted with us. There is every chance he would just be playing at East Perth.
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I somehow remember this draft day sitting on BF and being like wtf with literally every other poster in the thread when this happened
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We got NicNat at 2, if it wasn't for injuries he would be 1 ruck in the league.
Just saw the write up a young Swift "2006 NAB AFL Under 16 Championship where he played 3 games for Western Australia averaging 36.3 disposals per game, the highest of any player at any under-16 or under-18 carnival since 2001. He also averaged 8.7 marks, 5.0 inside 50s, 6.7 clearances and 5.3 tackles per game.
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Has an immense highlight package from memory from that championship.
High Risk high reward coming off 2 knee recos, was a pretty decent pick at the time. Just couldnt hack it at top level, could hack a kick though
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This is the biggest issue at the club and has turned us soft as butter.
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Think our poor player development is as much to blame as our below par recruiting. Has any of our recent recruits (say from 2011) shown any significant improvement since joining the club? Given our well documented midfield issues, first round draft picks like Sheed and Duggan should regulars in the team by now. Look at Lamb - played first game in round 1, 2015 but none since then. McInnes took 4 seasons to play a game. Karpany played one away game out of the blue last year but dropped after that loss and now does not look like getting another game. Even Mcgovern, who is now one of the best players in the AFL, took nearly 3.5 years to play his first game. Shepherd took nearly 6 years to show something. So we cannot be certain that those very good players who were drafted after our picks would have turned out the same way with us. Even if we did draft SPP last year, there is a fair chance that he would still be playing for East Perth.
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Yes the selectors are way too safe. No point trying to win with the same players when they have proven a number of times they can't do it. 1 step back to take 2 steps forward needs to be the approach
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Yea, well, coming off two knee recos is the key there. Not a good sign for someone his age.
Tom Swift was ****ing great in his first few games, never developed from then. Duggan-esque..
Probably would have been a premiership player in Sydney tho tbh. Our youth development is shocking
Probably would have been a premiership player in Sydney tho tbh. Our youth development is shocking
Yeah the Swiftsa had talent. So did Ash Smith (his speed is much needed these days, unfortunately he had a terrible attitude). Who's the last draft pick we actually developed as their career progressed? Gaff and Darling have stagnated. I guess McLovin counts.
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I agree but if this team is serious about a flag those are the games they should be winning. Shit house football from the coaching to the selection to the players.
Agree. Similar to the melts after the early Hawks loss last year - it was a portent of things to come, and we all knew it...
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