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I agree, and the reason we’re having this discussion is purely because he’s a top 10 pick. No one is writing him off yet, but with a top 10 pick you hope to see a trait that made him get picked 11 picks before Johnson for example. At this very early stage of his career I would put him on par with the likes of Wilmot and Lohmann but they have the luxury of playing in a very good side and therefore have less heavy lifting to do and fewer expectations. Two other players taken after Erasmus are Sheldrick and Wanganeen-Milera, in my view these 2 have shown some excellent traits that would make them worthy of a top 10 selection. I’d like Erasmus to show us something like these 2 have done. The simple fact that some posters have identified is that at this point in time he hasn’t and I suspect the reason why he sits on the bench so much or plays at Peel so often is that the coaches haven’t seen it yet either.
Thank you, couldn't agree more mate. And Sheldrick and NWM are perfect examples too, those guys have shown plenty. Sheldrick has played even fewer games then Erasmus an shown a hell of a lot more.
 
I agree, and the reason we’re having this discussion is purely because he’s a top 10 pick.
Disagree. The reason why we're having this discussion is because our season is in the toilet and people are now looking to get their joy out seeing glimpses of the future in "the kids". If we'd won yesterday without Erasmus having played any differently, this thread would've remained back on page 2.
 

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I wouldn't write him off just yet, he's only 19. But that doesn't mean he hasn't shown very little up until this point. Even with Johnson when he came on as sub he showed a few very classy moves, that is enough to get excited about. Erasmus is yet to show anything that shows why we picked him up in the top 10. I don't think there's been one disposal of his that I've seen that's been like, 'wow, that was special.'
 
Disagree. The reason why we're having this discussion is because our season is in the toilet and people are now looking to get their joy out seeing glimpses of the future in "the kids". If we'd won yesterday without Erasmus having played any differently, this thread would've remained back on page 2.
Nah, I would've brought this up win or lose. He's a slight concern, that's all.

Let's not turn this into something else fam.
 
I wouldn't write him off just yet, he's only 19. But that doesn't mean he hasn't shown very little up until this point. Even with Johnson when he came on as sub he showed a few very classy moves, that is enough to get excited about. Erasmus is yet to show anything that shows why we picked him up in the top 10. I don't think there's been one disposal of his that I've seen that's been like, 'wow, that was special.'
I don't think anyone is writing him off. We realistically won't know for another two seasons if he is going to make it or not. He has an elite work ethic so he will take every opportunity he gets to be the best he can. We just need to be patient!
 
erasmus will be elite. you can't coach will and desperation. and he has a 190cm frame along with being a freak athlete. problem is he isn't developed yet. to his desperation matters for little and he isn't conditioned like a seasoned athlete yet. so his top ten quality traits aren't there yet.

i don't think comparing anyone to fyfe is a good idea. fyfe is a freak.
 
i think people need to settle the **** down on Neil. He has played a dozen games. Let him develop. AB and Cerra played just about every game in their first 2 years and Cerra is only coming good this year with 100 games under his belt. He needs at least 50-70 games before he starts to feel at home.
 
Best comparison for me is LDU. He was written off by many until last year, quite a few until this year where he's finally become the complete player. Erasmus will take some time, but I'm not even slightly worried, he'll be a weapon for us.

LDU always had the ability to burst from stoppage. It was a stand out attribute. Don’t see that with Neil.
 
Wasn't this board talking about the lack of goalkicking mids we have recently? That was Erasmus' strength at the lower levels. Him, Henry and O'Driscoll are probably the most likely mids to be impacting the scoreboard regularly (Jackson too if you count him, Stanley looks good but too early to tell and Serong has the capacity to add it to his game). Pump games into them, in their correct positions and the impact will be massive.
 
i think people need to settle the * down on Neil. He has played a dozen games. Let him develop. AB and Cerra played just about every game in their first 2 years and Cerra is only coming good this year with 100 games under his belt. He needs at least 50-70 games before he starts to feel at home.
He's not going to get 50-70 games to settle

We will look to be challenging from next year, if he isn't ready then he shouldn't play

Needs to find form at wafl level and force himself in

Players can do it
 

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I dont think he's going to be genuinely elite but I think he can be fantastic on what this list needs him to do. Get the ball from the bottom of the stoppage out to someone else and tackle if he cant do that. I think he's shown some very good signs in those areas but being a December baby, he's a 6 months to a year behind others.

Like a Parker or Kennedy, if he comes on, he doesnt need the burst to be effective for what we need.
 
Wasn't this board talking about the lack of goalkicking mids we have recently? That was Erasmus' strength at the lower levels. Him, Henry and O'Driscoll are probably the most likely mids to be impacting the scoreboard regularly (Jackson too if you count him, Stanley looks good but too early to tell and Serong has the capacity to add it to his game). Pump games into them, in their correct positions and the impact will be massive.
i would also argue brayshaw will develop the capacity as well. elite runner who will learn to run forwards without taking away from his defense. hes still very young
 
He's not going to get 50-70 games to settle

We will look to be challenging from next year, if he isn't ready then he shouldn't play

Needs to find form at wafl level and force himself in

Players can do it
We won’t even play finals next year let alone challenge, so he has plenty of time to get some more games
 
If we don't make finals next year then the club needs an overhaul from the top

Maybe that overhaul will indeed happen. But get ready for it, because the demographics of our list are that of a side that should be bottom 2 or 3 on the ladder. We should be aiming to track ahead of schedule for such a young list and make the finals next year, but every chance it is another year like this year, and it won't be 2026 before we are really in the hunt. That puts Erasmus (assuming continuity and good luck with injuries) at around 80-100 games, which is still a young buck (e.g. where Brayshaw/Serong are now).
 
Wasn't this board talking about the lack of goalkicking mids we have recently? That was Erasmus' strength at the lower levels. Him, Henry and O'Driscoll are probably the most likely mids to be impacting the scoreboard regularly (Jackson too if you count him, Stanley looks good but too early to tell and Serong has the capacity to add it to his game). Pump games into them, in their correct positions and the impact will be massive.

Brayshaw is actually our best goal kicking mid
 
One thing we definitely need is a hard running midfielder. He will be that.

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SUBIACOMIDFIELDER, FORWARD

#9​

Neil Erasmus​

Height: 188cm
Weight: 80kg
D.O.B: 02-12-2003
Leagues: WAFL Colts
Image Credit: Michael Willson/AFL Photos

POSITION: Midfielder/Forward

SNAPSHOT: A prolific tall ball winner who utilises his strength overhead to impact up forward, Erasmus is a prototypical goal kicking midfielder.”

Subiaco and Hale School product Neil Erasmus starred in the 2020 WAFL Colts Grand Final with a four-goal haul to put his name in lights, and hasn’t missed a beat since across multiple competitions. Erasmus finds the footy with ease when playing through the midfield as he balances his inside and outside work superbly, finding ways out of trouble with his evasion and clean hands. To go with this midfield craft, Erasmus is able to play as a target up forward, with his leading patterns and marking two traits which help him hurt the opposition in attack.

Strengths:
Accumulation
Consistency
Endurance
Overhead Marking
Scoreboard Impact
Leading Patterns

Improvements:
Kicking Consistency
Explosive Speed

After a standout 2020 WAFL Colts Grand Final performance, Erasmus continued to go from strength to strength in 2021, proving arguably the best player in the PSA season for Hale, the side he captained, and being a later inclusion to the AFL Academy squad which took on Geelong VFL. Erasmus was unsurprisingly involved in the WA Under 19 squad and performed well in the practice matches he participated in, before unfortunately missing out on championships proper against South Australia as his year was cut short by a corked quad.

As a midfielder, Erasmus is generally one of the main ball winners on the ground. Whether the target of the tap around a stoppage, winning it in a pack, or timing his run to receive it on the outside, Erasmus knows where to be to win the ball and almost commands it with his presence. A big strength of Erasmus’ once he wins the ball is his use by hand. Even in traffic or under a high amount of pressure, Erasmus generally spots out an option and handballs well, with his ability to keep his hands free in congestion a major part of that. How consistent Erasmus is with that accumulation, and his quality use by hand are impressive across all levels of competition, regularly getting above 30 disposals.

There aren’t many improvements that Erasmus needs to work on heading into the future, being a generally well rounded prospect. His kicking at times can be inconsistent, with his penetration and decision making generally sound but accuracy being something he can struggle with, particularly under pressure or on the run. His goal kicking accuracy had previously been a bit of a concern but is something he’s improved through the year, especially his set shots. Another area of improvement that would advance Erasmus’ all-round game is his explosive speed, which would help him create separation when leading more consistently or get away from opponents in the midfield more easily. At the moment, he is the type of player who covers good ground over time.

DRAFT PROJECTION: 6-12

SUMMARY:
With his effectiveness in the forward line as a strong marker with good leading patterns, Erasmus is one that should be able to play at AFL level early on for whichever club picks him up, and will be able to rotate through the midfield as he builds to a more permanent role through the guts. His endurance base and consistency bode well alongside his aerial tricks and scoreboard impact, all traits which have him firmly in top 10 contention.
 
One thing we definitely need is a hard running midfielder. He will be that.

Neil-Erasmus-Subiaco-2021-AFL-Academy.jpeg

SUBIACOMIDFIELDER, FORWARD

#9​

Neil Erasmus​

Height: 188cm
Weight: 80kg
D.O.B: 02-12-2003
Leagues: WAFL Colts
Image Credit: Michael Willson/AFL Photos

POSITION: Midfielder/Forward

SNAPSHOT: A prolific tall ball winner who utilises his strength overhead to impact up forward, Erasmus is a prototypical goal kicking midfielder.”

Subiaco and Hale School product Neil Erasmus starred in the 2020 WAFL Colts Grand Final with a four-goal haul to put his name in lights, and hasn’t missed a beat since across multiple competitions. Erasmus finds the footy with ease when playing through the midfield as he balances his inside and outside work superbly, finding ways out of trouble with his evasion and clean hands. To go with this midfield craft, Erasmus is able to play as a target up forward, with his leading patterns and marking two traits which help him hurt the opposition in attack.

Strengths:
Accumulation
Consistency
Endurance
Overhead Marking
Scoreboard Impact
Leading Patterns

Improvements:
Kicking Consistency
Explosive Speed

After a standout 2020 WAFL Colts Grand Final performance, Erasmus continued to go from strength to strength in 2021, proving arguably the best player in the PSA season for Hale, the side he captained, and being a later inclusion to the AFL Academy squad which took on Geelong VFL. Erasmus was unsurprisingly involved in the WA Under 19 squad and performed well in the practice matches he participated in, before unfortunately missing out on championships proper against South Australia as his year was cut short by a corked quad.

As a midfielder, Erasmus is generally one of the main ball winners on the ground. Whether the target of the tap around a stoppage, winning it in a pack, or timing his run to receive it on the outside, Erasmus knows where to be to win the ball and almost commands it with his presence. A big strength of Erasmus’ once he wins the ball is his use by hand. Even in traffic or under a high amount of pressure, Erasmus generally spots out an option and handballs well, with his ability to keep his hands free in congestion a major part of that. How consistent Erasmus is with that accumulation, and his quality use by hand are impressive across all levels of competition, regularly getting above 30 disposals.

There aren’t many improvements that Erasmus needs to work on heading into the future, being a generally well rounded prospect. His kicking at times can be inconsistent, with his penetration and decision making generally sound but accuracy being something he can struggle with, particularly under pressure or on the run. His goal kicking accuracy had previously been a bit of a concern but is something he’s improved through the year, especially his set shots. Another area of improvement that would advance Erasmus’ all-round game is his explosive speed, which would help him create separation when leading more consistently or get away from opponents in the midfield more easily. At the moment, he is the type of player who covers good ground over time.

DRAFT PROJECTION: 6-12

SUMMARY:
With his effectiveness in the forward line as a strong marker with good leading patterns, Erasmus is one that should be able to play at AFL level early on for whichever club picks him up, and will be able to rotate through the midfield as he builds to a more permanent role through the guts. His endurance base and consistency bode well alongside his aerial tricks and scoreboard impact, all traits which have him firmly in top 10 contention.
You read this and then it's even weirder that he's barely had a crack up forward.
 

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