King Huskii
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Can we not recruit all players attached to Colin Young
He is a parasite
He is a parasite
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Autopsy Welcome to Freo Liam Henry – Fremantle’s 3rd 2019 National Draft Pick [Match bid Pick #9]
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LOL Frustration tolerance much? Express that alarm loud and proud.
It's funny this "get him out of here now" schtick has been there from you and "others" even when he was not performing to the standard you'd set for him last year and early this year. As though you're desperate for your feelings on him to be rubber-stamped... over any practical benefit we might get from him developing, maintaining/increasing his trade value, honouring contractual status (or, wild thoughts, room for a scenario that perhaps he might not have fully made up his mind).
I wonder whether part of the Colin Young story right now is a plan to relocate more of his own epicentre to "where the action is" in Melbourne. Making that much easier would be having a greater percentage of his books already there (rather than have to generate a base from scratch or operating remotely too much). Therefore selling the lure, prising open the ears of players to go East young man, as a constant m.o. would make sense.
It’s weird because Henry didn’t even have a contract offer in front of him until 3/4 weeks ago. It’s this late the season because there was no earlier in the season
Draper isn’t indigenous
It’s a really nice thing that we only have one game in our history where we didn’t have an indigenous player on the team.
However, I sincerely hope that stat has ZERO impact on our list management decisions. The only considerations that come into play when picking a team for each game and a list for each season should be football based and success driven. We absolutely should not let the indigenous heritage, or lack thereof, influence our selections or list management.
If we still happen to always have an indigenous player on the team, great. If not, so be it.
Damn, thought he was part indigenous
We really have like Noone else then once the 2 big dogs retire
Never said it will have a bearing, it's just interesting to see
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I can't do depth analysis of Henry's game or potential departure. I'm just a simple soul sick to think that after JL and Freo persisted with Henry far beyond what many thought reasonable, their patient investment might be another club's gain.
Feel I've lived through this story before.
Less important than Henry's footy but still a regret for me is losing an Indigenous poster boy with his art as well as footy talent, good looks, great big smile, appealing and inspirational to young Indigenous kids.
Freo will be less colourful if he goes - respectful pun intended.
Feel I've lived through this story before.
Less important than Henry's footy but still a regret for me is losing an Indigenous poster boy with his art as well as footy talent, good looks, great big smile, appealing and inspirational to young Indigenous kids.
Freo will be less colourful if he goes - respectful pun intended.
Christ, really can't afford to keep losing midfielders. Particularly after we have developed them/turned their form around.
We have been smashed in the midfield this year, and to an extent last year, whenever we lost/came up against a good midfield.
Doesn't help that we have lost Neale, Cerra, Acres, Hill, Langdon etc...Now Henry.
Henry for a draft pick puts us back again. Our midfield depth is sh*te.
We have been smashed in the midfield this year, and to an extent last year, whenever we lost/came up against a good midfield.
Doesn't help that we have lost Neale, Cerra, Acres, Hill, Langdon etc...Now Henry.
Henry for a draft pick puts us back again. Our midfield depth is sh*te.
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he seems like a really great kid. But I don't see any one characteristic in that elite or special category. Jack of all trades at a good level. If he chooses to go, I wish him well but I won't miss his possessions on the field.
He's very clean with collecting the ground ball and then operating in confined spaces. An invaluable attribute for a wing, who's there to link-up or mop-up. It's great to have that when there's been a series of fumbles that have allowed the opposition to close in on the ball and ball movement. On the link-up side of things, he has a knack for choosing options that lead to goals or open up highly attacking plays.
Yeah. We just have to deal with Young as best we can.
There’s very little the club can do to control what player managers the players have or what motivations drive those managers or what tactics they use.
Not dealing with (short of some Ricky-level implosion), or actively working to undermine player managers, just ain’t feasible options. Trying to explicitly justify those options would be a very hard sell to the AFL world. It would likely just end up disaffecting those particular players and result in (collective) blowback from other player managers in how they manage their players regards to us.
The most effective approach is to accept and adapt to what we know about any particular player-manager and what we could estimate their motivations and strategies might be. That includes then tuning into the sales pitch to leave as tailored to that specific player and what might effectively counter that in our pitch as here is the place for them.
At the end of the day having a lot of his players on our list should provide plenty of knowledge on what makes him tick and the approach we should take.
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yep that's my point. He is good at those things. Elite or special at doing it? Game changing? Changing momentum? Not that I've seen yet. Hughes rarely makes a mistake, locks down his player at half back, almost 100% efficiency, plays bigger than he is, is a great team man, always gets back to help out, makes safe options, but if you had to pick between Young and Hughes for the last half back position, who do you pick and why?
Why do we love NOD (usually) on the wing? Because even so young, he is one of the only wings in the game that will often slot goals from the corner and on the run which can change a game/momentum. It's a super valuable/game changing/momentum changing trait that's rare and valuable.
Without that x-factor/elite/special factor, players are generally quite replaceable.
I love Brayshaw (our one) but if we were drafting tomorrow, knowing what we know now, and had the choice between Brayshaw and Petracca, who do you pick. Both talented, super hard working clean mids, good runners, hard defensively, team men, even look similar, but Petracca can just bullock his way forward and make goals happen by sheer confidence and force, time and time again. That first quarter in the brisbane game it was like watching Fyfe in his younger days. He won them that game. Those kinds of players make the difference in their positions and win you lots of games that were against you and often cups. Everyone else is largely replaceable at AFL level where 'good' should be the norm.
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Henry's biggest asset is changing up the angles and kicking into the center opening up the play. I remember Chapman used to take those types of kicks from the back line which really improved our rebounding game. If we can get him onto a wing, he can not only replicate Henry's game but improve on it. Chappy is also more equipped to help down back when needed and can provide a marking target down the line.
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Can’t hold a tackle to save his life though and can’t see that changing much and can’t kick very far
Rarely hits the scoreboard either
Won’t be a huge loss IMO
More so the wasted game time holding out others
Up until 4 weeks ago he had no value.
The very definition of elite is that only a few are in that standard. That standard goes up as the level goes up too, so development is required (mind you "elite" as a term is often used in a bit vague and wobbly way too).
I think I might disagree with the idea Hughes rarely makes mistakes, but he is serviceable. Age/development-wise it's totally different stakes to Henry who's still developing (and potentially could go up many more levels), whereas this is proably Hughes optimal peak. I'd also say Hughes' decision making has come up to a steady level, but bog standard. There are glimpses that Henry's decision making, should it develop, would be x-factor (speaking of woobly terms) kind of stuff and definitely shift games on their axis.
The ability for O'Driscoll to keep slotting those goals would make him elite. It also adds to the odds and difficulty for him to keep producing that.
It'd be a great pairing if both were to be able to pair up after following the developmental trajectory. Henry having further crafted a constant sure presence finishing with deft involvements, with O'Driscoll's line breaking power. It'd be great for both their games too. Ahh the potential.
Don't know I'd need to check my eyes, sure I saw him stick a few tackles just on the weekend. Maybe they're deceiving me.
I also thought we were talking about his strengths.
I remember him bringing down a ruck or a key forward in a tackle.
Swear he brought down Bont across the line not to long ago
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He’s improved There’s no doubt
But is it all just for self gain or is it to make the team and the club better ?
There has been way more bruise free games in his portfolio than ones where he gets his hands dirty .
Yeh outside player . Blah , Blah ,
He’s well known for shirking the contest .Most wingers still tackle .
Then all of sudden Colin blows smoke up his bum and his game improves , “stuff the club and all the time and effort they’ve put into me , I’m going elsewhere to graze in greener pastures “
Happy if he stays and continues on his trajectory if he truly wants to do the right thing by the club , but won’t be a great loss to me either if he decides to go .
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