Strapping Young Lad
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Maybe Darcy Moore like, using his athleticism and ability to read the field ahead to make impact plays, and running off his man to providing a rebounding option. Moore is great at that. Though I think Moore is geared more to the defensive side of the game, whilst Weddle can be geared more towards providing overlapping runs.
He could be ‘our’ Aaron Naughton at CHB where Naughton should be played.
HOW GOOD IS THIS KID?
Hawthorn’s Josh Weddle is the steal of the 2022 draft. He was taken at pick No. 17, but if the draft was reworked with hindsight, he’d be in the top five with Will Ashcroft, Harry Sheezel, George Wardlaw and Reuben Ginbey. In fact, you could make a case that Weddle could be the pick of that bunch. That’s fantasy talk, but fantasy talk is exactly what the future market is. Clearly, it’s hardly breaking news that the rising 20-year-old is a good young player. At 20, he plays like a 26-year-old Mason Redman. He’s a rebounder like Redman, has wheels like Redman and he’s better overhead than Redman. He played on Tim MembreyPLAYERCARDSTART27Mason Redman
- Age
- 26
- Ht
- 187cm
- Wt
- 87kg
- Pos.
- Def
CareerSeasonLast 5
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- 15.2
- 4star
- K
- 10.1
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- 5.1
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- M
- 4.2
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- 2.7
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- MG
- 262.0
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- 12.0
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- 7.8
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- 4.2
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- 3.2
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- 1.8
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- 210.3
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- 12.0
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- 7.0
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- 5.0
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- M
- 4.4
- 4star
- T
- 2.4
- 4star
- MG
- 144.2
- 3star
PLAYERCARDENDand Max KingPLAYERCARDSTART28Tim Membrey
- Age
- 29
- Ht
- 188cm
- Wt
- 92kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 12.2
- 3star
- K
- 8.1
- 3star
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- 4.1
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- 5.8
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- 1.5
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- 1.8
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- 6.5
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- 1.3
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- 9.6
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- 4.8
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- 1.4
- 4star
- G
- 0.6
- 3star
PLAYERCARDENDon Saturday and in a combined 85 minutes, he only conceded one goal. His opponents this year have been Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (two goals from three touches), Ben KingPLAYERCARDSTART12Max King
- Age
- 23
- Ht
- 202cm
- Wt
- 100kg
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- Fwd
CareerSeasonLast 5
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- 7.3
- 2star
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- 4.7
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- 2.8
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- 0.6
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PLAYERCARDEND(one goal), Jeremy CameronPLAYERCARDSTART34Ben King
- Age
- 23
- Ht
- 202cm
- Wt
- 98kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
CareerSeasonLast 5
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- 7.2
- 2star
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- 5.0
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- 3.5
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- 1.3
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- 7.5
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- 1.9
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- 3.6
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- 0.3
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- 1.5
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- D
- 6.8
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- K
- 4.4
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- 2.4
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- M
- 3.2
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- 0.2
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- G
- 1.0
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PLAYERCARDEND(one goal) and Jamie Elliott (zero goals). The back six at Hawthorn is holding its own. Weddle will be star, Amon and Impey are super cool with ball in hand, Scrimshaw needs to be blasted by Sam Mitchell every week if this is how he’s going to respond, and Sam FrostPLAYERCARDSTART5Jeremy Cameron
- Age
- 31
- Ht
- 196cm
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- 94kg
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- Fwd
CareerSeasonLast 5
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- 12.5
- 3star
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- 9.0
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- 3.4
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- 5.4
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- 1.6
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- 2.6
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- 10.0
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- 7.1
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- 2.9
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- 4.6
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- 2.0
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- G
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- 8.2
- 2star
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- 5.0
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- 3.2
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- 4.6
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- 2.4
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- 2.0
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PLAYERCARDEND’s past three weeks on Max KingPLAYERCARDSTART8Sam Frost
- Age
- 30
- Ht
- 194cm
- Wt
- 94kg
- Pos.
- Def
CareerSeasonLast 5
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- 12.4
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- 7.1
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- 6.3
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- 11.2
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- 6.0
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- 5.2
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- 3.6
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- 1.4
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PLAYERCARDEND, Aaron NaughtonPLAYERCARDSTART12Max King
- Age
- 23
- Ht
- 202cm
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- 100kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
CareerSeasonLast 5
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- 7.3
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- 4.7
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- 2.6
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- 0.7
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- 8.0
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- 2.8
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- 0.6
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- 1.4
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PLAYERCARDENDand Hayden McLeanPLAYERCARDSTART33Aaron Naughton
- Age
- 24
- Ht
- 196cm
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- 92kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
CareerSeasonLast 5
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- 10.7
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- 7.0
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- 3.7
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- 4.9
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- 1.8
- 4star
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- 0.8
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- 6.3
- 1star
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- 4.0
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- 2.3
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- 2.5
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- 0.8
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- 12.8
- 4star
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- 8.8
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- 4.0
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- 4.8
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- 1.2
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- 0.0
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PLAYERCARDENDhave been better than solid.PLAYERCARDSTART2Hayden Mclean
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 197cm
- Wt
- 99kg
- Pos.
- F/R
CareerSeasonLast 5
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- 9.1
- 2star
- K
- 5.1
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- 4.0
- 3star
- M
- 2.6
- 3star
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- 4.0
- 5star
- G
- 0.4
- 3star
- D
- 7.5
- 2star
- K
- 4.5
- 2star
- HB
- 3.0
- 2star
- M
- 2.3
- 2star
- T
- 3.3
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- 0.8
- 4star
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- 10.0
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- 4.6
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- 3.0
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- T
- 4.4
- 5star
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- 0.2
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
Great write up. Had to spoil it with his essendon comparison.
He's already gone past Redman.Great write up. Had to spoil it with his essendon comparison.
I'm loving Weddle's development down back and I am also rapt that Sam is resisting the urge to move him to the mids or forward.Just heard Bucks on SEN re Weddle and he feels that his best position is a third tall down back as he competes well in the air but he is a weapon transitioning the other way with his running ability (his tall opponent won’t be able to keep up with him) …… as compared to being matched up on smaller running types.
I’m sure Mitch and all the coaches are working out his best position that most benefits the team but I still reckon he will be our Mr fix it depending on the opposition team structure or the situation of a game.
They also complimented the club in identifying his talent and doing the deal to make it happen ……… D+I'm loving Weddle's development down back and I am also rapt that Sam is resisting the urge to move him to the mids or forward.
Development of a player with Weddles ability is fundamental to him becoming a star of the game in time, in whatever role that may be.
He is extremely exciting and getting better with his decision making, defensive work and footy IQ week by week.
Enjoy the next 10 years...
Josh himself has mentioned wanting to move into the midfield, tracking a similar path to Daysy. Would be a weapon streaming out of the midfield.Just heard Bucks on SEN re Weddle and he feels that his best position is a third tall down back as he competes well in the air but he is a weapon transitioning the other way with his running ability (his tall opponent won’t be able to keep up with him) …… as compared to being matched up on smaller running types.
I’m sure Mitch and all the coaches are working out his best position that most benefits the team but I still reckon he will be our Mr fix it depending on the opposition team structure or the situation of a game.
We've now got an army of 3rd talls but no first or second talls.He seems to be taking the taller opponents when they go up the ground but hands them off as soon as they enter the 50. But also uses his tank to run back and help out so gets a few intercept possession/spoils as 3rd man.
Given we also had frost, scrim and serong as talls we also seem to be finding ways to use Weddle’s height on offence by targeting mismatches.
Starting to get a good dynamic down back with weddle and fellow defenders - why change it? CJ may be the answer on the wing in a few weeks.Mason Wood dominated us on the wing in the last quarter. He was just too big and strong for Massimo. Was nearly the difference for them as he helped them link from defense to offense.
Weddle has infinitely more talent and is taller + faster to boot.
Weddle up the ground creates mismatches that are an absolute headache for oppo coaches.
Discussion on SEN with Cornes and Bucks today looked at the trades that took place to get Weddle to Hawks - and his ceiling. More or less said trading genius in hindsight..
Of course Cornes was complimentary, Buck even more so comparing him to Blakey from the Swines.
Starting to get a good dynamic down back with weddle and fellow defenders - why change it? CJ may be the answer on the wing in a few weeks.
Long term it is about his highest and best use. That may be down back, but it might not be. His upside is the highest on the list in my view so i'd like him to be given opportunities in more attacking roles over time.Starting to get a good dynamic down back with weddle and fellow defenders - why change it? CJ may be the answer on the wing in a few weeks.