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I don’t think Newman is the type either. He’s very balanced and delivers his message with more of a gentle thrust.Newman likely the only assistant coach who’d rip into them and get a response out of the playing group
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VFL/AFL seasons where the side that won the wooden spoon had a win vs the side that won the minor premiership
1904 - stk v fitz
1910 - stk v carl
1922 - sth v coll
1949 - haw v nth
1959 - wbd v melb
1960 - rich v melb
1967 - wbd v rich
1976 - coll v carl
2024 - RICH v SYD
That was an awesome season bc Cats finished on top and Carlton second after we lost to South at Lake Oval by about nine goals in the last round and they both won their last round games. We lose top spot in the last roundHonourable mentions to Fitzroy in 1980 and 1991.
In 1980, they won the wooden spoon and didn’t beat the minor premier (Geelong) but by kicking nine goals to two in the final quarter of their final round match against Carlton and reducing the margin to four points, they cost the Blues the minor premiership.
In 1991, they got off the bottom of the ladder with a final round win over minor premiers West Coast.
That was an awesome season bc Cats finished on top and Carlton second after we lost to South at Lake Oval by about nine goals in the last round and they both won their last round games. We lose top spot in the last round
They then went out in straight sets in the finals losing their games to both us and Collingwood who we blew away in the GF.
I agree to a point. Yeah we can make excuses about everything. For me history shows a new coach brings new hope, players lift for them, they also bring there own assistants which he hasn't done. Players unrest shows from the seniors to the VFL where the VFL players week in week out are better than our listed. The other is, does anyone know his gameplan that he says his trying to incorporate? For me how can he lift the club where we still had mature premiership players and so called super stars cant win a game with basically a very young team next season!Name me a side that would be strong on field when only one player? Has played every game under any coach let alone a first year, with so many unavailable players. Also when announced as coach we had a CEO only to leave as well.
Well known our coach told them to lose that game as he didn't want a break the first week and wanted them match fit. Was weird season think we lost first 4 games and drew with saints in the 5th on going to thrash every team till the last round. Still the best team not just rfc but entire league I have seen.That was an awesome season bc Cats finished on top and Carlton second after we lost to South at Lake Oval by about nine goals in the last round and they both won their last round games. We lose top spot in the last round
They then went out in straight sets in the finals losing their games to both us and Collingwood who we blew away in the GF.
VFL/AFL seasons where the side that won the wooden spoon had a win vs the side that won the minor premiership
1904 - stk v fitz
1910 - stk v carl
1922 - sth v coll
1949 - haw v nth
1959 - wbd v melb
1960 - rich v melb
1967 - wbd v rich
1976 - coll v carl
2024 - RICH v SYD
I agree to a point. Yeah we can make excuses about everything. For me history shows a new coach brings new hope, players lift for them, they also bring there own assistants which he hasn't done. Players unrest shows from the seniors to the VFL where the VFL players week in week out are better than our listed. The other is, does anyone know his gameplan that he says his trying to incorporate? For me how can he lift the club where we still had mature premiership players and so called super stars cant win a game with basically a very young team next season!
Well known our coach told them to lose that game as he didn't want a break the first week and wanted them match fit. Was weird season think we lost first 4 games and drew with saints in the 5th on going to thrash every team till the last round. Still the best team not just rfc but entire league I have seen.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Fitzroy did have a win against the eventual premier at the Junction Oval. We beat them by 20 goals at the MCG earlier in the year. I sat in the magnificent old southern stand as we kicked 29.25 (199) to completely annihilate the poor old Roys. The Tigers were a scoring machine that year.Honourable mentions to Fitzroy in 1980 and 1991.
In 1980, they won the wooden spoon and didn’t beat the minor premier (Geelong) but by kicking nine goals to two in the final quarter of their final round match against Carlton and reducing the margin to four points, they cost the Blues the minor premiership.
In 1991, they got off the bottom of the ladder with a final round win over minor premiers West Coast.
not bringing his own assistants you can blame purely on the club. These lazy as have already had success players can pack their bags as well.I agree to a point. Yeah we can make excuses about everything. For me history shows a new coach brings new hope, players lift for them, they also bring there own assistants which he hasn't done. Players unrest shows from the seniors to the VFL where the VFL players week in week out are better than our listed. The other is, does anyone know his gameplan that he says his trying to incorporate? For me how can he lift the club where we still had mature premiership players and so called super stars cant win a game with basically a very young team next season!
No, we won the first game against Hawthorn at Princes Park by 5 points. Then I think we lost to Essendon at the MCG by 7 points, then the draw...then I think we won the next 11 games.Well known our coach told them to lose that game as he didn't want a break the first week and wanted them match fit. Was weird season think we lost first 4 games and drew with saints in the 5th on going to thrash every team till the last round. Still the best team not just rfc but entire league I have seen.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Fitzroy did have a win against the eventual premier at the Junction Oval. We beat them by 20 goals at the MCG earlier in the year. I sat in the magnificent old southern stand as we kicked 29.25 (199) to completely annihilate the poor old Roys. The Tigers were a scoring machine that year.
Yeah it was 5losses and a draw. Magnificent season and my first grand final I attended.Well known our coach told them to lose that game as he didn't want a break the first week and wanted them match fit. Was weird season think we lost first 4 games and drew with saints in the 5th on going to thrash every team till the last round. Still the best team not just rfc but entire league I have seen.
VFL players better than listed players;I agree to a point. Yeah we can make excuses about everything. For me history shows a new coach brings new hope, players lift for them, they also bring there own assistants which he hasn't done. Players unrest shows from the seniors to the VFL where the VFL players week in week out are better than our listed. The other is, does anyone know his gameplan that he says his trying to incorporate? For me how can he lift the club where we still had mature premiership players and so called super stars cant win a game with basically a very young team next season!
Agree with all that. I assume team selection is not all Yze and perhaps he even has less influence than others on MC in which case it’s more worrying that the whole club misjudges the list and what we need to do. Have to see different approach to selection next year.VFL players better than listed players;
sometimes, VFL is a league where Williamstown are very good. And have no AFL club affiliation
Morris has to play Ryan, Cumberland, Coulthard who is not up to VFL level. Other than that Smith, Dow, Sonsie Kmac2 play very well. Jagga went OK one week, but might've struggled the next.
Yze gameplan: he looked at the list and thought it could be competitive. 2 KPFs 3 small fwds. Bolton up fwd.
Taranto, Hopper, Prestia being the midfield mix. Kmac on the wing. Martin, Baker, JGTI half forward.
Martin hit the wall quicker than expected.
Ryan didn't improve but NaismIth did an ACL Kosi's back up ruck wasnt bad.
Don't ask me about tactics. But in a 2 KPF fwd line, the club couldn't get Lynch on the park. Post retirement of Jack R, our most important player.
Balta, Kosi, Ryan, Lefau and Bauer rotating through. 60 forward entries for 10 goals. been a problem for 2 years.
Taranto, Hopper, Prestia all played Ground zero & Round 24 too. great clearances but rubbish kicks. and slow.
Needs some pace there. Needs Lynch playing, AND go after someone better than Kosi.
Lynch might create 4 more goals. Himself, crumbing and drawing defenders away. Bolton will need a replacement. MRJ ain't got the kicking ability.
My beef is not dropping out of form senior players. I hope that changes
That last round against south was a game I missed as we were traveling back from SA after a national titles soccer tournament , sitting in the bus listening to the game with my Maltese mate saying they will come back they will come back and they never didThat was an awesome season bc Cats finished on top and Carlton second after we lost to South at Lake Oval by about nine goals in the last round and they both won their last round games. We lose top spot in the last round
They then went out in straight sets in the finals losing their games to both us and Collingwood who we blew away in the GF.
Remember the bloke with the sack of peanutsNo, we won the first game against Hawthorn at Princes Park by 5 points. Then I think we lost to Essendon at the MCG by 7 points, then the draw...then I think we won the next 11 games.
The only other losses we had were Geelong at the MCG (17 points), Fitzroy at Junction Oval, and South at the Lake Oval in the last round. Then we blew away Carlton, Geelong and Collingwood to win the flag.
It was an awesome side. Should have won at least another flag with that list.
Apologies to Meteoric Rise. I just saw your earlier post, lol. And I forgot that Carlton loss at Princes Park. We went years without beating them at their own ground.
Have also met and been to the races with TI, top guy who's a very passionate Tiger.To Tiger_4_Life Nostradumbass and sante thanks for the kind compliments and likewise as you’re all good citizens and passionate Tigers like myself. Would love to catch up again one day if I can get to the smoke for a game as I have a busy life here. I’m sure if we met most people on here we’d all get on well .
Was he the same guy at The Western Oval? Those were the days. All the kids used to mock him as he shouted out, " Peanuts, Peanuts, get your Peanuts".Remember the bloke with the sack of peanuts
Good days at the races with you mate and thanks for all your invitations. Remember the 2019 Prelim I bumped into you at HT and you were down and out then you ran off the minute Dusty nailed the goal at the start of the third? lolHave also met and been to the races with TI, top guy who's a very passionate Tiger.
My old man took me to that last game at lakeside oval. Stood up in the outer.That was an awesome season bc Cats finished on top and Carlton second after we lost to South at Lake Oval by about nine goals in the last round and they both won their last round games. We lose top spot in the last round
They then went out in straight sets in the finals losing their games to both us and Collingwood who we blew away in the GF.
YepWas he the same guy at The Western Oval? Those were the days. All the kids used to mock him as he shouted out, " Peanuts, Peanuts, get your Peanuts".
Went to all threeMy old man took me to that last game at lakeside oval. Stood up in the outer.
Was shithouse.
Then took me to the qualifying final and the second semi.
No go for the grand final though.