Karp3_dm
Brownlow Medallist
- Jun 29, 2018
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Wonder if Cumbo survivessonsie first delisted
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Wonder if Cumbo survivessonsie first delisted
Can’t be judged on this season, didn’t stand a chance. The thing that is against him is we are starting full rebuild mode and coaches rarely survive rebuilds. Next 2-3 years we are going to be in the bottom 2-3 so tough times coming but at least we should be getting a bunch of elite talent this off season.
He is but I also think he may not be good enough, all I heard was how good of tactical coach he was, yet he hasn't done anything to blow me away.Yze gets a chance next year with a refreshed list. I have no idea if he’s anything more than a pain magnet for the mistakes made before his hiring.
Last presser for the crap year he blames everyone but himself f me.Watched the presser, did he really say it’s been a great year? Cone at me defenders of the faith, won’t and shouldn’t see out his contract , although listening to that he may get an extension
Just went back to look for it as I was emotionally screwed at the time. It happens around 3hrs into Kayo replay after Johnson stops waffling on and Dermie starts up again. It’s sick viewing and there was definitely something not right between them and possibly him with other senior players.I'm done on this bloke. His coaching has been pretty pisspoor. his pressers & ability to inspire has been non existent. He appears to have no meaningful relationships with any of the players, or even his own assistants team. His chemistry in the club is about as stinky as it gets.
Did anyone see the very awkward interaction of Dusty & Yze while he was doing the rounds in the lockeroom? Dusty shook hands and acknowledged everyone, & vice versa, except for Yze. neither of them look at each other, acknowledge each other at all. Door behind them opens and its Newman who acknowledges Dusty immediately, while Yze tries to dart through the door inbetween them & then Dusty leaves.
Yze stood like a man without a mate in the room.
I think he will be our coach sooner than I expected.Of course we can judge his performance
Complete failure
I do find it interesting that Newman looks to have a better rapport with the playing group compared to Yze
Maybe it’s the lack of leadership Yze shows but newy commands the respect of those around him
very poor has struggled to translate his tactics onto the field during game day players unwilling to implement structure communication a big part of thatFck imagine listening to Yze at 3/4 time trying to rev up the team , ummm yeah get the ball ummm come on ummm guys ummm you can do it ummm get in campaigners ummm let’s g
No, it's our worst season. For obvious reasons.impressive generosity shown in here, but the facts are facts.
He is officially our worst coach in 120 years.
I hope he reflects on that, and does the right thing by the club.
That could means he stays and doubles his effort, or is honest that it's not for him.
newman is a wart in the club that needs to be removedWe've got some serious work to do this off-season.
Sometimes the step up from assistant coach tactician to full senior coach just doesn't happen, or isn't as quick as it could or should be. Clearly not being supported at a coaching level.
Something clearly hasn't been right with Teague leaving mid-season and I don't think having Rutten there has provided the right support despite him being a former head coach. There's clearly a bit of a divide between new coaches and old coaches in my view.
I was pretty underwhelmed by the mix of assistants at the start of the year and with the addition of Lambert it's incredibly junior.
Structure next year should be something like:
Yze
New senior assistant (Caracella has been mentioned) Newman, new senior opposition analysis or tactics coach
Lambert, Morris (needs to be promoted given what he's done with our VFL side not being last despite injuries and kids), new assistant (Grigg would be nice), new development coach x2.
You'll note I have omitted Ziebell and Rutten as a start. We're going to be very young next year so employing blokes who have a track record developing kids is going to be really paramount.
If I'm being honest, my take is there's too many blokes that have not been part of successful sides in our coaching group and I think its an issue with standards as has been illustrated by the effort on field. I think I've ranted on here that you only get blokes with a history of success both as coaches and as players because they far outweigh those that have not come from successful systems in terms of premiership accolades (Bevo, Clarko and Roos being the only three recently and I'd argue Clarko had enough time under Pagan).
How about the guy running the show? The coach. Zero blame?Can’t believe how negative people are towards a 1st year senior coach that was set up to fail.
1. Premiership players with zero hunger on worsened when their 3x premiership coach bailed in time to avoid the inevitable hitting of rock bottom. It was always going to be a struggle for Yze to build relationships with the older boys and to get much out of them.
2. Amateur bordering on negligent fitness staff. No team could handle that many injuries to key players.
2.Constant trade rumours surrounding the few talented players we have left on the list.
3. A complete lack of quality kids to be optimistic about (which was inevitable after a sustained period of success).
4. 2 senior assistant coaches that offered him nothing (Teague+Rutten)
5. Instability off field. Brendon Gale had long checked out and was looking forward to his new role with a new club in Tassie. Neil Balme health battles and the fact he may have been pushed to retire.
I honestly don’t see how any 1st year coach no matter who it was could succeed given the circumstances.
A first-year coach should have received more support from the club.Really wanted Yze to succeed, but I don’t think he will survive long after such a bad season.
He’ll have to improve markedly next year if he wants to remain in the job long-term IMO, and we can see how much North and West Coast are still struggling despite being down on the bottom a couple of seasons.
We can talk about injuries needing to be better, but we’ve copped more and more injuries every year since 2022. No guarantee that injuries I’ll improve by a lot next year
Name me a side that would be strong on field when only one player? Has played every game under any coach let alone a first year, with so many unavailable players. Also when announced as coach we had a CEO only to leave as well.How about the guy running the show? The coach. Zero blame?
I was under the impression Sam Mitchell was an assistant coach at Hawthorn before he took over, would make a huge difference.Agreed, but I still don’t think he will survive if we don’t get better soon.
I don’t think injuries were our only issue this year though. A lack of overall talent and Yze’s coaching also played a role IMO. Yes, Yze’s inexperienced and needs better support around him, but he might not get the time he needs to adjust. It’s a brutal job requiring fast results. Sam Mitchell’s set the standards for new coaches this year, and clubs will take note on what he’s been able to achieve in his time there.
Spot on and none of that is because of yze, Sick of the abuse Adem is getting direct it to others within the club.A first-year coach should have received more support from the club.
The club has been in a coma for the last few years, no wonder 2024 was so poor.
- Same coaches as 2023 - Zero Investment
- Same medical sciences - Zero Investment
- CEO - asleep at his desk all season, more invested in his Tasmanian job and selling digital bricks.
The reason why we are in this dilemma is bc we didn't sack Dimma in 2020 after The hub incidents. We totally destroyed the fabric of the club and the family/ Brotherhood we built. Instead he ate the softcap up and everyone that built the club started to leave. Fitness guru, Hartley, Fly and Leppa, Peggy etc. Had he been sacked then we would've had at least three Coaches to choose from in our FD. Instead we kept him on like fools and he then stabbed us in the back and we are now hurting bc of him as he was allowed to run the club into the ground. Sacking coaches can be a positive and you just have to choose your moments and we missed ours and now we have Yze who is way inexperienced to the three men we could've had. Coaches get sacked for different reasons and it can be a gain just like we sacked Wallet for Dimma. People are so narrow minded thinking keeping on a coach for years expecting to get results is the way to go. It worked for Dimma, but look at the FD we built around him as well as he did have a team that made finals over 3 years. Yze doesn't have the team yet let alone a solid FD and as i said he's got another year to redeem himself as the club can't have another year like this. Financially it will also hurt us. Three legends retired yesterday an 34k people turned up to wave them off. People sent a message yesterday that they're over it all. All our games were the same show over and over again with nothing added to the game plan and the usual offenders constantly being played.Like he was when we sacked Dimma. oh wait. Not directly meant for you.
Give the campaigner a fit list first. Caracella is back so that's a different dynamic.Wonder if we could get Brett ratten to come in and help yze out …. He has plenty of expirience not only as an assistant coach but as the head coach …. Yze needs help
Name me a side that would be strong on field when only one player? Has played every game under any coach let alone a first year, with so many unavailable players. Also when announced as coach we had a CEO only to leave as well.
In general everyone saying Yze is at fault. How about we put blame on others. Medical people other assistant coaches that are still with us from Dimma was with us. Yze needs support and the right people around himWhat are you babbling on about? The poster pointed out issues this season and did not mention the guy running the show - the head coach. The club knows he has a problem, it was the club that brought Caracella back, not Yze.
Are they like Broadys pictures?He’s got pictures
On fitness. we still run as much as our opponents, break even on most running stats. Suns game. RFC runs 279kms. Suns 284km. RFC 252 sprints Suns 237 sprints.For better or for worse it's now Yzes team. He will get the opportunity over the next few weeks to begin to structure the list the way he wants. He'll be able to talk with Hartley & Toce regarding the type of players he wants us to bring in either through trade or the draft and it will appear that he'll have the coaching panel set up the way he wants it. I'm also expecting a heavy focus during the preseason on fitness to ensure that we hit the season as healthy as we can be and this will also allow the game plan to be better implemented.
As I said this morning I'm quite excited about what 2025 brings as we begin the climb back up the ladder.