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Player Watch #22 Jacob Hopper
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How many teams have a ready to go top level Ruckman earning $350k +
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Not too many , We atleast have Ryan who has been at the club 2 years who is 22 years old and over 108kgs and 207cm tall
Nothing to sop us getting a Ruck in the mid season draft from state league if desperate
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Wish they would hurry up and announce Hopper already.
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Honestly, I'm happy to back in Samson. He's a good size, moves well, can take a grab and kick a goal. We were never going to see his full potential until he got some solid AFL time in and that probably wasn't going to happen with Soldo blocking the pathway. We don't need a dominant ruckman, not even Nank is that. We just need a competitor who doesn't get smashed and let the big boys we're bringing in go to work.
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TIGERS RELENT IN DEAL FOR HOPPER
Richmond will begrudgingly release Ivan Soldo to Greater Western Sydney to seal the Jacob Hopper deal, as the Tigers plan for a potential five-man bench that could pave the way for clubs to play two full-time ruckmen.
Soldo is getting his head around leaving for GWS in a deal that Richmond hopes could see them hand over Soldo, pick 31 and a future first-rounder, but secure one of the Giants late 2022 picks.
The Tigers are hopeful of taking a selection to this year’s draft – potentially to even use on a young tall in the Jack Riewoldt succession plan – so hope the Giants might be willing to return a late pick to them.
![The deal for [PLAYERCARD]Jacob Hopper[/PLAYERCARD] could be close. Picture: Jason McCawley/AFL Photos](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7 "The deal for [PLAYERCARD]Jacob Hopper[/PLAYERCARD] could be close. Picture: Jason McCawley/AFL Photos")
The deal for Jacob Hopper could be close. Picture: Jason McCawley/AFL Photos
But the intriguing element of the trade is what might happen to the controversial sub rule next year.
News Corp revealed mid-season that the lobbying from the AFL Doctors Association had brought about assurances from the AFL they would remove the current sub rule, which requires a doctor to rule a player must be likely to miss the next week through injury.
Richmond’s understanding is that there is a significant possibility the clubs might just be given a fifth player on the bench to use freely rather than a medical substitute, which has required an injury to bring the fifth player on.
A five-man bench would give clubs latitude to play a second genuine ruckman, rather than one with another tall who can also pinch-hit in the ruck.
Richmond would have been perfectly poised with Toby Nankervis and Soldo as an elite ruck duo but the Tigers realise releasing contracted Soldo is the only way to secure Hopper.
They have high hopes for Ben Miller and Samson Ryan and could also play Noah Balta as a second ruck.
But the club would love to keep Soldo, who rebuffed Western Bulldogs interest to sign a new three-year deal last year.
Ivan Soldo could be on his way to GWS. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos
The Canberra-raised ruckman had a medical with GWS last week.
New Giants coach Adam Kingsley is a big fan of Hugo Ralphsmith but the Giants have plenty of running backs so have not asked for the 20-year-old – and Richmond will not release him.
Clubs would ideally have advance warning on what the 2023 sub rule or expanded bench would look like ahead of the trade period.
But given the tight turnaround from the 2022 season to the trade period, they have to make guesstimates on what the game will look like next year.
Richmond has only pick 31 after handing over selections 12 and 19 for Tim Taranto, but could ask for the last of GWS’ picks in the Hopper trade to secure a live draft selection.
GWS has picks 3, 12, 15, 18, 19, 44, 61, 63, and even the last of those selections would come in to about 50 given it’s not expected clubs will use their late picks.
Richmond secured five selections in the 2021 national draft – Josh Gibcus, Tom Brown, Tyler Sonsie, Sam Banks and Judson Clarke – and have high hopes for all of them.
It means they have been able to go all-in on two established midfielders on seven-year deals to round out their midfield core.
Richmond will begrudgingly release Ivan Soldo to Greater Western Sydney to seal the Jacob Hopper deal, as the Tigers plan for a potential five-man bench that could pave the way for clubs to play two full-time ruckmen.
Soldo is getting his head around leaving for GWS in a deal that Richmond hopes could see them hand over Soldo, pick 31 and a future first-rounder, but secure one of the Giants late 2022 picks.
The Tigers are hopeful of taking a selection to this year’s draft – potentially to even use on a young tall in the Jack Riewoldt succession plan – so hope the Giants might be willing to return a late pick to them.
The deal for Jacob Hopper could be close. Picture: Jason McCawley/AFL Photos
But the intriguing element of the trade is what might happen to the controversial sub rule next year.
News Corp revealed mid-season that the lobbying from the AFL Doctors Association had brought about assurances from the AFL they would remove the current sub rule, which requires a doctor to rule a player must be likely to miss the next week through injury.
Richmond’s understanding is that there is a significant possibility the clubs might just be given a fifth player on the bench to use freely rather than a medical substitute, which has required an injury to bring the fifth player on.
A five-man bench would give clubs latitude to play a second genuine ruckman, rather than one with another tall who can also pinch-hit in the ruck.
Richmond would have been perfectly poised with Toby Nankervis and Soldo as an elite ruck duo but the Tigers realise releasing contracted Soldo is the only way to secure Hopper.
They have high hopes for Ben Miller and Samson Ryan and could also play Noah Balta as a second ruck.
But the club would love to keep Soldo, who rebuffed Western Bulldogs interest to sign a new three-year deal last year.
Ivan Soldo could be on his way to GWS. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos
The Canberra-raised ruckman had a medical with GWS last week.
New Giants coach Adam Kingsley is a big fan of Hugo Ralphsmith but the Giants have plenty of running backs so have not asked for the 20-year-old – and Richmond will not release him.
Clubs would ideally have advance warning on what the 2023 sub rule or expanded bench would look like ahead of the trade period.
But given the tight turnaround from the 2022 season to the trade period, they have to make guesstimates on what the game will look like next year.
Richmond has only pick 31 after handing over selections 12 and 19 for Tim Taranto, but could ask for the last of GWS’ picks in the Hopper trade to secure a live draft selection.
GWS has picks 3, 12, 15, 18, 19, 44, 61, 63, and even the last of those selections would come in to about 50 given it’s not expected clubs will use their late picks.
Richmond secured five selections in the 2021 national draft – Josh Gibcus, Tom Brown, Tyler Sonsie, Sam Banks and Judson Clarke – and have high hopes for all of them.
It means they have been able to go all-in on two established midfielders on seven-year deals to round out their midfield core.
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A lovely bit of backgrounding of the journalist by the Richmond list management team. All the details, no quotes. Makes it sound like GWS has won the trade. We're getting Hopper for a future first, a depth ruck who may never get back to his best and sliding back from 40ish (after father-son and academy selections) to 50ish.TIGERS RELENT IN DEAL FOR HOPPER
Richmond will begrudgingly release Ivan Soldo to Greater Western Sydney to seal the Jacob Hopper deal, as the Tigers plan for a potential five-man bench that could pave the way for clubs to play two full-time ruckmen.
Soldo is getting his head around leaving for GWS in a deal that Richmond hopes could see them hand over Soldo, pick 31 and a future first-rounder, but secure one of the Giants late 2022 picks.
The Tigers are hopeful of taking a selection to this year’s draft – potentially to even use on a young tall in the Jack Riewoldt succession plan – so hope the Giants might be willing to return a late pick to them.
The deal for Jacob Hopper could be close. Picture: Jason McCawley/AFL Photos
But the intriguing element of the trade is what might happen to the controversial sub rule next year.
News Corp revealed mid-season that the lobbying from the AFL Doctors Association had brought about assurances from the AFL they would remove the current sub rule, which requires a doctor to rule a player must be likely to miss the next week through injury.
Richmond’s understanding is that there is a significant possibility the clubs might just be given a fifth player on the bench to use freely rather than a medical substitute, which has required an injury to bring the fifth player on.
A five-man bench would give clubs latitude to play a second genuine ruckman, rather than one with another tall who can also pinch-hit in the ruck.
Richmond would have been perfectly poised with Toby Nankervis and Soldo as an elite ruck duo but the Tigers realise releasing contracted Soldo is the only way to secure Hopper.
They have high hopes for Ben Miller and Samson Ryan and could also play Noah Balta as a second ruck.
But the club would love to keep Soldo, who rebuffed Western Bulldogs interest to sign a new three-year deal last year.
Ivan Soldo could be on his way to GWS. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos
The Canberra-raised ruckman had a medical with GWS last week.
New Giants coach Adam Kingsley is a big fan of Hugo Ralphsmith but the Giants have plenty of running backs so have not asked for the 20-year-old – and Richmond will not release him.
Clubs would ideally have advance warning on what the 2023 sub rule or expanded bench would look like ahead of the trade period.
But given the tight turnaround from the 2022 season to the trade period, they have to make guesstimates on what the game will look like next year.
Richmond has only pick 31 after handing over selections 12 and 19 for Tim Taranto, but could ask for the last of GWS’ picks in the Hopper trade to secure a live draft selection.
GWS has picks 3, 12, 15, 18, 19, 44, 61, 63, and even the last of those selections would come in to about 50 given it’s not expected clubs will use their late picks.
Richmond secured five selections in the 2021 national draft – Josh Gibcus, Tom Brown, Tyler Sonsie, Sam Banks and Judson Clarke – and have high hopes for all of them.
It means they have been able to go all-in on two established midfielders on seven-year deals to round out their midfield core.
We'll really find exactly where their salary cap is on Wednesday. GWS have said they want to keep contracted Hopper. Maybe Tarranto & deBoer & other delisting is enough cap space to retain Hopper
I was under the impression that they had to get rid of players, so I assumed they were about $I million over. TT off the books = half that amount.
Bringing in Soldo and losing Hopper saves them 300k? (600k for Hopper -300k for Soldo.)
Again, why not just use contracted, ruck depth at the club already. Save the Soldo 300k and maybe retain Hopper this year & Whitfield next year..
I wouldn't be surprised if the JH trade doesn't happen this year.
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Do we need to buy a farm we are going to need to sell to get Hopper?
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His game time % a bit low.
Almost cotchin like.
Almost cotchin like.
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The yellow & black adds about 10kg of muscle to his frame
I reckon we came out slightly in front due to Soldo not going and picks 53 and 63 coming back. They will come back to about pick 50 on draft night.
