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What s**t is it that you think only exists in the heads of some players?

Let’s not forget 2017 was a fluke year for us, not a season of lost dominance.

We had a better record in 2016, than 2017. We finished top of the ladder (with home finals) with a record good enough for 7th in 2016.

2017 was a fluke opportunity not a dynasty squandered

Thems the facts

Now even allowing for that:
2017: 2nd
2018: 12th
2019: 12th

Tell me again about the imaginary s**t?

Every now and then you decide to talk footy, and it's quite interesting.
 

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What s**t is it that you think only exists in the heads of some posters?

Let’s not forget 2017 was a fluke year for us, not a season of lost dominance.

We had a better record in 2016, than 2017. We finished top of the ladder (with home finals) with a record good enough for 7th in 2016.

2017 was a fluke opportunity not a dynasty squandered

Thems the facts

Now even allowing for that:
2017: 2nd
2018: 12th
2019: 12th

Tell me again about the imaginary s**t?

I don't disagree with all of that objective data. We are not in a good place as a club. I'm not sure what your point is. I've never suggested we're in a good place. The subjectivity (shit in people's heads) I'm talking about is when it goes beyond what can reasonably be assessed by an external person. Roo protects his mates, Burton is the devil etc.
 
I don't disagree with all of that objective data. We are not in a good place as a club. I'm not sure what your point is. I've never suggested we're in a good place. The subjectivity (s**t in people's heads) I'm talking about is when it goes beyond what can reasonably be assessed by an external person. Roo protects his mates, Burton is the devil etc.

Ok fair enough, that stuff is crazy.

As is all the bile aimed at assistant coaches. You can’t know about middle management

Where’s those who hold responsibility are a different matter
 
That’s some of sort of dumb.
Kinda impressive really.

And just to help you some of the way there, I’m not saying he does anything.

He *IS* head of football.

That’s not an arguable thing
“That’s some of sort of dumb”....you nailed that insult!

I mean you don’t have to have any insight into how an AFL club actually works when you can read a persons title.

Enlighten me, what would the day to day of Brett Burton look like?
 
“That’s some of sort of dumb”....you nailed that insult!

I mean you don’t have to have any insight into how an AFL club actually works when you can read a persons title.

Enlighten me, what would the day to day of Brett Burton look like?

Oh, you’re confused between duties and responsibilities?

It all makes sense now. Not in a good way for you though
 
Oh, you’re confused between duties and responsibilities?

It all makes sense now. Not in a good way for you though
.....still can’t answer, hey?

but you’re dodging and weaving like Muhammad Ali (2015 Ali, not 1960’s Ali).

With your skill of avoiding giving an answer, I would guess you are a politician.
 

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.....still can’t answer, hey?

but you’re dodging and weaving like Muhammad Ali (2015 Ali, not 1960’s Ali).

With your skill of avoiding giving an answer, I would guess you are a politician.

He’s being judged based upon the performance of the department that he is ultimately responsible for. How he goes about achieving those results is not relevant to that discussion.
 
.....still can’t answer, hey?

but you’re dodging and weaving like Muhammad Ali (2015 Ali, not 1960’s Ali).

With your skill of avoiding giving an answer, I would guess you are a politician.

It’s not a valid question dufus.

You’ve got this asinine fixation on what burton does day to day as if it’s even the slightest bit relevant. It’s just dumb. Late night radio talkback stupid.

He *IS* head of football. Your inability to grasp what that means fatally undermines any argument you try to make

All I see you making the case for is how little (or low level) experience you have in the corporate world.

The words you need to worry about are “responsible for”.

Obsessing about “does” is just pig ignorance or should I say pigeon playing chess ignorance

Burton is ultimately responsible for all things football. The coach reports to him.
 
GreyCrow said:
Has the AFC disputed the Eddie Betts story? #weflyasone has a snippet about the SANFL finals so there is someone in the office putting out 1 tweet. Why not a quick ''Recent headlines and rumours are false. Eddie is contracted to the AFC and will be a part of 2020'' even if its BS at least they stop the flames

Its not that hard is it?
Hah. Roo said exact thing this morning on triple m
 
It’s not a valid question dufus.

You’ve got this asinine fixation on what burton does day to day as if it’s even the slightest bit relevant. It’s just dumb. Late night radio talkback stupid.

He *IS* head of football. Your inability to grasp what that means fatally undermines any argument you try to make

All I see you making the case for is how little (or low level) experience you have in the corporate world.

The words you need to worry about are “responsible for”.

Obsessing about “does” is just pig ignorance or should I say pigeon playing chess ignorance

Burton is ultimately responsible for all things football. The coach reports to him.
You clearly are unable to understand when you have enough knowledge to have a valid opinion and when you are merely another uninformed talking head who can’t admit that they don’t have the knowledge or capacity to form a valid opinion.

Rather, than debate a point you resort to trying to be the loudest voice and to insulting people. You are the Donald trump of this board.

It is simple logic that without understanding the actual roles and responsibilities of an individual you cannot assess that individual’s performance. Why do you think external reviewers perform a review prior to making recommendations?! :think:
 
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And what happens when it's proven to be BS?
The club will get slaughtered for lying to their members.

It's a lose/lose game.
Maybe.

But it can also be turned back on Eddie

" Eddie broke his contract, at the time my statement was correct "
 

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