AFLW West Coast Womens 2024

[AlphaSheep]

I also dispute the statement, because all the replacements will be better than them. I think its pretty clear, half or so will not be better than them. They may even be worse.

Going by Rookie Me's top 40 list for this year's draft, just with the West Australians; Noa McNaughton, Natasha Entwistle, Holly Britton, Sabella Banks and Tiarni Teakle aren't even listed. I'd take any of them over any of the ten I've listed, let alone the ones who ARE in the top 40.

And in other states, there are even larger numbers of probably better players who also won't make this year's top 40. They'll get picked 3rd and 4th rounds, and will still be better than anyone in our bottom ten.

 

[Livin1989]

Going by Rookie Me's top 40 list for this year's draft, just with the West Australians; Noa McNaughton, Natasha Entwistle, Holly Britton, Sabella Banks and Tiarni Teakle aren't even listed. I'd take any of them over any of the ten I've listed, let alone the ones who ARE in the top 40.

And in other states, there are even larger numbers of probably better players who also won't make this year's top 40. They'll get picked 3rd and 4th rounds, and will still be better than anyone in our bottom ten.

This is the exciting news indeed, how do you think the AFLW is going to, or should manage lists going forward? If it is as you say and there are a plethora of talents coming through better than the fringe bottom 10 on most teams, how do you manage to get all those youngsters onto teams? It would be a shame if young girls more talented than currently listed players are unable to get drafted simply because of a lack of drafting pick allocations....

What IM hoping happens is list sizes are increased and maybe an extra round of draft picks are made available. I'm not exactly sure how it all works though.

 

[AlphaSheep]

This is the exciting news indeed, how do you think the AFLW is going to, or should manage lists going forward? If it is as you say and there are a plethora of talents coming through better than the fringe bottom 10 on most teams, how do you manage to get all those youngsters onto teams? It would be a shame if young girls more talented than currently listed players are unable to get drafted simply because of a lack of drafting pick allocations....

What IM hoping happens is list sizes are increased and maybe an extra round of draft picks are made available. I'm not exactly sure how it all works though.

I don't think there's any limit on the number of draft picks, clubs can pick as many players as they like, so long as those players have nominated. But there's 18 teams now, four rounds gives you 72 picks, which I reckon will probably enough. The difference is that in previous years, picks 40 to 60 wouldn't get you much, while this year there'll be lots of very good players in that group, and maybe even beyond 60.

And 20 to 40 will get you elite players - Rookie Me have Claire Mahony at 21, which is nuts, she'd have been easy top ten a few years back, 181cm, athletic and good skills. And they've got Lily Patterson and Claudia Wright at 23 and 25 - Lily could be another Abbie Dowrick, and Claudia's 173cm, fast, great overhead, another easy top ten a few years ago, but I guess she's been injured and people haven't seen her much (I'd love if we could get her with our second pick).

I mean, here's their highlights package for Zoe Besanko, who's 177cm and comfortably better (or will be) than anyone in the bottom half of our list. She doesn't make Rookie Me's top 40... and I think they're wrong, but if they are, it'll just mean another of their existing top 40 will be pushed out. Same result, lots of great talent available in third and fourth rounds.



My point is that in the next three or four years, most of the current bottom halves of most AFLW lists in the country will be gone. Maybe not quite so much with North Melbourne, Brisbane, etc, but with us? Don't get too attached.

And the reason I don't shut up about it is that I think it's the most fun thing currently happening in Australian sports. Total transformation of a league.

 

[Biggie]

And the reason I don't shut up about it is that I think it's the most fun thing currently happening in Australian sports. Total transformation of a league.

Great take

Love being part of this as well, amazing to watch it grow.

 

[Kegs15]

I don't think there's any limit on the number of draft picks, clubs can pick as many players as they like, so long as those players have nominated. But there's 18 teams now, four rounds gives you 72 picks, which I reckon will probably enough. The difference is that in previous years, picks 40 to 60 wouldn't get you much, while this year there'll be lots of very good players in that group, and maybe even beyond 60.

And 20 to 40 will get you elite players - Rookie Me have Claire Mahony at 21, which is nuts, she'd have been easy top ten a few years back, 181cm, athletic and good skills. And they've got Lily Patterson and Claudia Wright at 23 and 25 - Lily could be another Abbie Dowrick, and Claudia's 173cm, fast, great overhead, another easy top ten a few years ago, but I guess she's been injured and people haven't seen her much (I'd love if we could get her with our second pick).

I mean, here's their highlights package for Zoe Besanko, who's 177cm and comfortably better (or will be) than anyone in the bottom half of our list. She doesn't make Rookie Me's top 40... and I think they're wrong, but if they are, it'll just mean another of their existing top 40 will be pushed out. Same result, lots of great talent available in third and fourth rounds.



My point is that in the next three or four years, most of the current bottom halves of most AFLW lists in the country will be gone. Maybe not quite so much with North Melbourne, Brisbane, etc, but with us? Don't get too attached.

And the reason I don't shut up about it is that I think it's the most fun thing currently happening in Australian sports. Total transformation of a league.

Deadset agree also, it's so exciting and fascinating from a list building perspective.

The Daisy effect could also be massive for us as well in the sense that every non-finals team will be flooding their list with 18 year olds who'll be more talented but won't develop if they're in a Gold Coast men's team situation and have to shoulder the whole load/get a losing mindset from day 1.

With her at the helm could see us being a regular destination for a Drennan type each year - someone to play for a few years, raise the standards and protect the bodies but who can be moved on in waves and we wouldn't need to overpay for.

 

[AlphaSheep]

Deadset agree also, it's so exciting and fascinating from a list building perspective.

The Daisy effect could also be massive for us as well in the sense that every non-finals team will be flooding their list with 18 year olds who'll be more talented but won't develop if they're in a Gold Coast men's team situation and have to shoulder the whole load/get a losing mindset from day 1.

With her at the helm could see us being a regular destination for a Drennan type each year - someone to play for a few years, raise the standards and protect the bodies but who can be moved on in waves and we wouldn't need to overpay for.

Agree, Drennan's big for us for exactly that reason. We only need her to be good for a few years, not ten.

 

[Livin1989]

Gooch has retired. Guess there's one delisting we don't have to worry about

 

[Livin1989]

I'll stir the pot. All in favour of aggressively targeting absolute weapons of young mids in under performing teams? It'd been Rowbottom for mine.

 

[Kegs15]

I'll stir the pot. All in favour of aggressively targeting absolute weapons of young mids in under performing teams? It'd been Rowbottom for mine.
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If I could poach any player in the league it'd be her. Would be so perfect for us IMO. Bowl over the rest of the oppo midfield then handball to a running Ella, rinse and repeat.

They'd want more than just picks for her though you'd assume.

 

[AlphaSheep]

I'll stir the pot. All in favour of aggressively targeting absolute weapons of young mids in under performing teams? It'd been Rowbottom for mine.
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I doubt we could get her, she's too new to Gold Coast, I doubt she'd be in a mood to leave just yet. If GC are still on the bottom in a few years, maybe.

Also, Charlie was No.1 pick, and we don't have that to trade. We'd have to trade probably first and second picks, and I'm as worried about our depth as any specific talent. So I'd say no, go with the draft.

 

[Livin1989]

I doubt we could get her, she's too new to Gold Coast, I doubt she'd be in a mood to leave just yet. If GC are still on the bottom in a few years, maybe.

Also, Charlie was No.1 pick, and we don't have that to trade. We'd have to trade probably first and second picks, and I'm as worried about our depth as any specific talent. So I'd say no, go with the draft.

Yeah look, realistically I agree with you.... But in nuffieland it's a very entertaining daydream . But I think you right, we should be setting our sights on realistic targets, which is older guns that are in languishing clubs, though Drenno might be able to start planting devilish little seeds to her former team mate