Western Region Football League Team (Part 4)

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i presume yarraville must be folding - didn't manage to get a gurnsey anywhere??

Would have to consider Poink Cook and Caroline Springs also - both getting to stages where they will be looking to field senior sides in the next year or two.


Slot Yarraville in Div 3, maybe even push them into the 4th Div!
 
Why hasn't the WRFL also put in the statement the part where they didn't do. The umpires forum was to be held on 29th June and it hasn't been held so they too are inconsistant with the resolution.
If there is no forum then don't expect to be playing football next weekend.
How does the Clubs get rid of the President?
Could the Clubs subjugation the league?

Vote of no confidence in the President would see a total board spill. But where are the alternatives???? Could easily be done Tuesday night.

For the clubs to take over the league mid season would be a disaster. I couldnt see the curent admin handing anything over smoothly and god knows what you would find. Facts are the current admin could not put together a basic excell spreadsheet for the umpires wages and hand that over. ( strike reason 2) The executive are the ones charged with the day to day running of the league. Batty and Newton. Two AFLVIC puppets. I say bring back Scott Turner.
 
How many club's will be leaving the wrfl next year??? i know a few big footy clubs want out next year...


The only problem is the Football Victoria can veto any such move as they did with a very strong Northern Football League club which wanted to move the Eastern League due to the financial irregularities that were occuring in their league.Gentleman suggest everyone starts emailing, texting and calling the AFL and the press and make an issue out of this.
 

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The only problem is the Football Victoria can veto any such move as they did with a very strong Northern Football League club which wanted to move the Eastern League due to the financial irregularities that were occuring in their league.Gentleman suggest everyone starts emailing, texting and calling the AFL and the press and make an issue out of this.

How many games would have to be missed before they called the season off???
 
Having an 'off the record' casual chat with someone high up (higher than suburban league), there's a theory running round of a "Super" Western League.

Now I remember back in 2000 there was talks of a new metro-wide comp... that fell through because some sides didn't want to travel to the other side of Melbourne.

Plus many years ago the EDFL merging with the FDFL was floated in casual conversations, but word was the EDFL wanted nothing to do with it.

Anyway if this umpires thing causes the WRFL to implode, it might finally see the creation of a 5 Division Western Suburban League.

That is involving clubs from the EDFL, WRFL, some clubs from the BFL (Melton, Sunbury, etc...) and some from the RDFL (Rockbank, Diggers Rest, etc...) - this is the ideal solution in the mind of someone from higher up.

BUT as said before - this type of idea has been floated for years.

Look at Geelong. The Bellarine and Geelong Leagues are under control of Football Geelong. Everyone (except a few people) want the GDFL to join that umbrella to form a 3 division Geelong League. But EGOS get in the way so it will never happen.

Same thing will happen here in the West.

<---- Former umpire from 10 years ago.

Interesting hypothesis.The only problem is that mergers as a rule don't work and end up weakening a competition.On paper it looks great, however I seem to recall the South East Suburban League merged with the Churches league which promised to make the Southern League the one of the strongest in Victoria. The reality is that they went from 5 Divisions and now have 3, with their 3rd Division being the equivalent of a club 18 competition. The competition has struggled ever since the merger and has lost a number of foundation clubs to the Ammos and to the Eastern Football League. Why? The competition lost its soul as a 'local' competition. The super clubs will get bigger and spend more money, whilst some of the larger clubs can quickly find themselves struggling to compete which results in a 'merger' or extinction. The Southern League is now a joke with two teams dominating,and the standard is average to poor. One of the clubs have a benefactor who holds the club by the nuts.If he leaves, they will plummett.Be warned, it might sound great, but I suspect that there are some administrators trying to build an empire for themselves to obtain a bigger income and profile.They will then walk away when they get what they want or get a better offer and who will pick up the pieces? The next person will be stuck with the problem and then you have a repeat of what occured it the Southern League.Soccer officials will be having a great laugh at what is transpiring and will only make their code stronger.
 
My 4 divisions would go like this and is based on success,money,fascilities,crowd support and reputation. I have also thrown in Sunbury,Melton and Melton South... havent put Darley in as to me they are a country club!


Not sure about the criteria.

If you are going to use this we may as well not even play the games. Instead just get the supporters to line up before the game and give the team with the most spectators on the day 1 point, then measure each teams clubrooms up and whoever has the biggest gets a point. If it is one all the result can be decided by each clubs president producing a bank statement with the 4 points going to whoever happens to have the most $$ in the bank:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I would have thought that on field performance would be the only logical criteria.
 
boys, if clubs can organise praccies against Outer Timbuktoo, surely you can call each other and come to some gentlemans agreement to get the games played. if the WRFL doesnt want to run the league, do it yourselves.

we all know someone from every club, get all the leadership groups together for a pot, come to some simple terms, like sin bins or yellow cards, double demerits for reports etc, but most of all, control your teammates on feild, and im sure Club umps could have saved last weeks games, if at least the senior games.... get some of the older ressies boys to go out to other games and help out... whatever it takes.

but, Im sure someone will find a reason(s) why that wouldnt work. ah well, I played on the weekend. it was cold wet and windy, and i loved every minute of it.
 
has the wrfl & wrflul got to gether today to sort out this fiasco of a scenario or are they going to wait for club presidents to getogether and broker a deal like the last one:thumbsdown:
 
has the wrfl started negotiations with umpires or are they going to leave it to club presidents to do the brockering work again
 
while were on the subject of a combined league why dont they make a metro super league just for 1 year then all the teams can go back to their leagues the next year. it would create alot of buzz, big crowds and bragging rights and will squash the theorys of this team is better than this team and so on. instead of having the best 12 teams i think teams from all comps should be in it to be fair, but more from the stronger comps.
EFL balwyn, croydon, vermont
EDFL greenvale, keilor, marby park
NFL heildleberg, northcote park
WRFL spotswood, port colts
SFL st kilda city
BFL sunbury
and could even throw in old xavs and de la salle from the VAFA
 
while were on the subject of a combined league why dont they make a metro super league just for 1 year then all the teams can go back to their leagues the next year. it would create alot of buzz, big crowds and bragging rights and will squash the theorys of this team is better than this team and so on. instead of having the best 12 teams i think teams from all comps should be in it to be fair, but more from the stronger comps.
EFL balwyn, croydon, vermont
EDFL greenvale, keilor, marby park
NFL heildleberg, northcote park
WRFL spotswood, port colts
SFL st kilda city
BFL sunbury
and could even throw in old xavs and de la salle from the VAFA

Would love to see aflvic to set up like the footballfederationvictoria have the soccer leagues set up. Have a premier league with the top clubs from the 5 metro leagues ( excluding the amatures ) and maybe the ballarat and geelong leagues. then the divisions beneath could be north/west, south/east divisions with promotion/relegation.

People may whinge about travel/costs etc but it works for the soccer in victoria and surely footy clubs get more cash/crowds etc than our local soccer clubs.
 
The statement on the WRFL website looks like it was written by a Year 10 student such is the lack of detail and the lack of clarity in what they're trying to say. And nobody at the WRFL admin even had the balls to put their name at the bottom of the statement?

Written by a year 10 student? I am not sure Batty got that far at school to be honest. This guys ego, his pig headed attitude, and the fact that he is obviously incompetent, has just about stuffed football in this league for the season if not for good.

How the president and the suits in the WRFL executive have allowed this situation to get to this point is just beyond comprehension and it just proves that people can be highly intelligent but be sooo dumb when having to deal with real life situations. Dianna has obviously shown far too much faith in her sidekick Batty who seriously has no idea and now they have backed themselves well and truly into a corner with nowhere to run.
 
The issue needs to be looked at for what it is. Club umpires may get games played and cover over the underlying issues facing the clubs here, and then the league will just hope it all goes away and continue on. Club umpires are not the answer.
Neither is in the short term employing the umpires direct (with the clubs).
The issue is as has been said before, the league has been on the verge of a major disaster for a while, and this was the straw that caused the break.
Unless some people step aside, then unfortunately the league is going nowhere in a hurry and clubs will be in some serious financial trouble.
An administration with some idea would be working their arses off to fix the issue and reschedule the lost games!
What will happen if a player misses out on playing finals as he was to have played on the weekend and now may not play the required 6 games?????
Who will reimburse player payments, loss of income to clubs, advertising for sponsors?
This is far from over!
 

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The issue needs to be looked at for what it is. Club umpires may get games played and cover over the underlying issues facing the clubs here, and then the league will just hope it all goes away and continue on. Club umpires are not the answer.
Neither is in the short term employing the umpires direct (with the clubs).
The issue is as has been said before, the league has been on the verge of a major disaster for a while, and this was the straw that caused the break.
Unless some people step aside, then unfortunately the league is going nowhere in a hurry and clubs will be in some serious financial trouble.
An administration with some idea would be working their arses off to fix the issue and reschedule the lost games!
What will happen if a player misses out on playing finals as he was to have played on the weekend and now may not play the required 6 games?????
Who will reimburse player payments, loss of income to clubs, advertising for sponsors?
This is far from over!


I agree club umpires will not work. However short term could we use club umpires from div2 for div1 games and div1 club umpires for div2 games?
 
Written by a year 10 student? I am not sure Batty got that far at school to be honest. This guys ego, his pig headed attitude, and the fact that he is obviously incompetent, has just about stuffed football in this league for the season if not for good.

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The League Execs must have thought the same. The media release has now been removed from the WRFL website.

I must say the lack of communication out of the WRFL has been dissapointing. Here we go again with training tonight with no updates for our players, lets make a decision at 3pm on Friday and F@#K everyone weekends again!:thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

Lets hope tonights COM gives us some answers!
 
Some useful info for aspiring umpires:D

WESTERN REGION FOOTBALL LEAGUE (Victoria) - Umpires
President Name: Terry Gunn
President Email: terrygunn1@live.com.au
President Phone: 0424505443
Location
Venue: Scovell Reserve
Street: Raglan Street
Suburb: Maidstone
Postcode: 3012 Details
Days of operation: Monday, Wednesday
Time: 6.00pm to 7.30pm
Duration: 1hr 1/2
Click here to view website

Maybe all of the members on Big footy should e-mail Mister Pop Gunn
with our thoughts?
The comp has never been the same since The Patch died:thumbsdown:
 
Would love to see aflvic to set up like the footballfederationvictoria have the soccer leagues set up. Have a premier league with the top clubs from the 5 metro leagues ( excluding the amatures ) and maybe the ballarat and geelong leagues. then the divisions beneath could be north/west, south/east divisions with promotion/relegation.

People may whinge about travel/costs etc but it works for the soccer in victoria and surely footy clubs get more cash/crowds etc than our local soccer clubs.

It would destroy the remaining leagues and what would a superleague achieve for one year? We are trying to grow the game not further reduce competitions. Just remember that every footy oval that is vacant is quickly snapped up by the drama queens.There is the VFL (formerly the VFA they were the days) which is the premier league in Victoria.
 
It would destroy the remaining leagues and what would a superleague achieve for one year? We are trying to grow the game not further reduce competitions. Just remember that every footy oval that is vacant is quickly snapped up by the drama queens.There is the VFL (formerly the VFA they were the days) which is the premier league in Victoria.

People just wanting to know who is the best!
Does metro have interleague?? Surely this is good enough to answer the questions over the best comp in melbourne!!!
 
It would destroy the remaining leagues and what would a superleague achieve for one year? We are trying to grow the game not further reduce competitions. Just remember that every footy oval that is vacant is quickly snapped up by the drama queens.There is the VFL (formerly the VFA they were the days) which is the premier league in Victoria.

Someone else said it should be just for a year not me. You didn't really understand what i said. Why not get all sides across melbourne with the ballarat and geelong comps and run it like the english football association?? All current clubs around melbourne would still be around there'd just be no more wrfl or edfl etc. Have the 12-14 best sides from the metro area start in the "top division" and have however many divisions needed to fit every other side in. If it works in England and works well for the Victorian Football Federation how could it not work for AFL??

As for the VFL being the premier comp your kidding right? Used to be 15 years ago untill the afl got its greedy hands on it and completely r*ped the integrity of the competition. Why would i bother going to watch my local VFL club when there allinged with an AFL club that i hate?
 
at least you knew where you stood with the patch there would be none of this shit going on

Great comment mate...
The Patch had the then FDFL in great shape on and off field, Of course he made some bad calls but there were alot more good than bad,He was an icon of the FDFL and football Victoria on and off the field. He would be turning in his grave over the SPOONHEADS that run the league now!!!

The WRFL boss has turned this league upside down, and HAS cost the league and clubs a BUCKETLOAD of money and any future X-AFL players to come to the league as players or coach, as they would not want to come to a league that has no control over anything on or off the football field.

You MUPPETS in charge of WRFL take a good hard look at yourselfs as you have turn what is PROUD league into a laughing stock of any AFL/Local leagues CLUBS in the games HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!

IN MY OPION THE WHOLE BOARD SHOULD STEP DOWN AT THE END OF THE SEASON!!!! ALL CLUBS SHOULD COME TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE THIS CRAP NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN ...... AS IT IS ALL OF YOUR CLUBS MONEY AND FUTURE THEY ARE PLAYING WITH!!!!!!!!:thumbsu:
 
Well it looks like we will be back playing this week, which is a very big positive.
Also negotiating with wyndam council to put finals back a week to make up the missed round. The clubs that missed a home really need it.

Hopefully we don't go through these issues again and the umps sort out there problems without affecting the games.
 
I just happened to be rumaging around in filo beddoes filing cabinet looking for grog and found this on a piece of paper marked not for public consumption but i thought i'd share it with you anyway...

Whats going on there Filo?????

Mate, the grog's in the second draw of the cabinet. Haven't written a Conspiracy Theory for a while so there should be plenty in there.
As for what's going on? I had a Conspiracy Theory in mind but think that the matter is way too serious for that.

Boofa summed it up pretty well. It's in times like these that an administration shows its worth. If they can't fix it permanently then they should hand the reigns over to someone who can. Is this the same mob who gags all in the WRFL and doesn't allow open criticism? If it is then they are only pretending to be a professional body. How's canceling a round for incompetence?:thumbsdown:
 
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