What are West Coast trying to do?

[Rich01]

Obviously trying to get in mature aged support and wins for Harley to try to keep him.

Instead of drafting some of his stablemates in his year and this year, they bring in older guys to get him wins for the now.

Feels like a matter of time and before he calls it a day there and the Eagles hit reset….again.

 

[doppleganger]

Our draft hand for next year is the one I listed. We still have it, and you're not going to change anyone's mind on that.

Hawthorn traded pick 14 for Carl F1 and F2 - Hawks are death riding Carlton.

To get Barrass, Hawthorn then traded Haw F1, F2 and F3 for Barrass.

Hawks could have just given pick 14 and Haw F3 up for Barrass from the get go?

But the Hawks wanted to death ride Carlton. If the Blues finish above the Hawks in 2025, Hawks outsmarted themselves.

 

[Obeanie1]

You both have no idea what you’re talking about. We effectively only traded pick 14 and swapped a 3rd round pick for WCE 4th round pick and brought in Battle and Barrass…

We still have Carlton’s 1st and 2nd in next years drafts

Lol.

And yet the Eagles now hold 90% of the Hawks original 2025 draft hand.

Basically the clubs entire original draft hand bar the 4th round.

For a 29yr old fullback with recent injury history.

Thems the facts. Hawks paid a price for being impatient and thinking they would be clever.

Blues make a GF and Hawks do a Crows and wowie, that would be a bit of a disaster. Fingers crossed.

 

[Obeanie1]

Obviously trying to get in mature aged support and wins for Harley to try to keep him.

Instead of drafting some of his stablemates in his year and this year, they bring in older guys to get him wins for the now.

Feels like a matter of time and before he calls it a day there and the Eagles hit reset….again.

Nice dream. You know the Tigers are in for years of pain. So you dream up a scenario about another ckub that makes you feel better about your clubs dire situation.

Lol.

Whatever you need to do to feel better buddy. Keep your head up.

Eagles have Warner and Starcevich in their sights in a big way for next years trade period. Currently the best draft hand in 2025 and cap space to burn. Come 2026 they will have turned the corner from a list buikd perspective.

 

[daniel23]

All trade week it was we better walk away with 2 firsts from Eagles supporters. That didn't happen, but now the spin is we have the whole hawks draft hand so we cleaned up. I've never seen a supporter base so excited about a 3rd round pick that will be in the 50s as a way of saying they WON the trade , when there 4th round we received back will be max 7 picks apart.

Their list is a complete mess , and it seems they want to try keep harley happy and be competitive. But outside of him they don't have any quality youth coming through. I mean, they could have had wardlaw/sheezel , reid and Pick 3 heading into next season but that isn't happening. Throw in yeo, McGovern, Kelly all retiring soon I'm not sure where they get enough quality to replace them and keep pushing up the ladder, especially when 2 top 10 picks will be handed over for Warner. Weird time for a one strong club, but I'm here for how delusional their supporters are.

 

[Rich01]

Eagles have Warner and Starcevich in their sights in a big way for next years trade period. Currently the best draft hand in 2025 and cap space to burn. Come 2026 they will have turned the corner from a list buikd perspective.

Wouldn’t be surprised if they paid overs to get back into this draft. One of GWS picks in the first round would be worth the hawks first and second. Trainor would be a good get to add to your backline.

 

[Jim Prideaux]

Hawthorn traded pick 14 for Carl F1 and F2 - Hawks are death riding Carlton.

To get Barrass, Hawthorn then traded Haw F1, F2 and F3 for Barrass.

Hawks could have just given pick 14 and Haw F3 up for Barrass from the get go?

But the Hawks wanted to death ride Carlton. If the Blues finish above the Hawks in 2025, Hawks outsmarted themselves.

West Coast didn’t accept hawthorns 14 and 2nd round for a return of there 3rd, why would they accept 14 and f3?

 

[toomanysquibs]

Hawthorn traded pick 14 for Carl F1 and F2 - Hawks are death riding Carlton.

To get Barrass, Hawthorn then traded Haw F1, F2 and F3 for Barrass.

Hawks could have just given pick 14 and Haw F3 up for Barrass from the get go?

But the Hawks wanted to death ride Carlton. If the Blues finish above the Hawks in 2025, Hawks outsmarted themselves.

Every Hawthorn member on these boards knew this before you did, and understood it better.

We also understood that our club backed us to finish above Carlton.

But keep on stating the obvious. It really does suit you.

 

[Footy Smarts]

The Barras deal is fine. There's no point holding onto him and they got as much value as they could.

The 2 things that make me question West coast are:

1) The Baker deal. That should've been their 2nd rounder. Rolling over and if anything paying overs for an out of contract player who has nominated you is just terrible.

2) Lawson Humphries. How can a kid who came through your academy look like a star at another team a couple of years later? How do you miss this kid when he's right under your nose?

 

[Cdog71]

However it was that it broke down initially with W/C and Hawks, W/C should’ve kept them engaged and tried to make it work. Not seeing the eventual outcome is poor by Mathew Clarke and he got it wrong. Thinking that Hawks would have deal with him.
They didn’t have to in the end and obviously dod t like his style.

W/C will need to bring in better established players eventually but who would trust them if they didn’t make good on their promise to Baker.
Jack Graham

34

Jack Graham

Age

26

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

1.2

4star

D

14.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

7.0

5star

CL

3.2

5star

is a role player but he’s Bakers best mate and part of the reason he went there.
If Baker didn’t get there it would’ve been a shocker and W/C would’ve lost some cred in future deals. IMO

 

[toomanysquibs]

Lol.

And yet the Eagles now hold 90% of the Hawks original 2025 draft hand.

Basically the clubs entire original draft hand bar the 4th round.

For a 29yr old fullback with recent injury history.

Thems the facts. Hawks paid a price for being impatient and thinking they would be clever.

Blues make a GF and Hawks do a Crows and wowie, that would be a bit of a disaster. Fingers crossed.

LOL.

Hawthorn's future is in Hawthorn's hands.

Your club's future is in Liam Bakers.....