"What ticket shortage ... ?"

[BuffaloRules]

How sad that once you Rugger boys are beaten on statistical analysis, you stick around on BF resorting to personal insult.

Now P1ss off and don't come back until this weekends crowd results are in for both codes.

Then you can come back and we will kick your arse again.

You can't win rugger buggers and you know it and that is why you are compelled to keep coming back to bigfooty.

Why don't you all convert? It will be better for you in the long run.

Where do you live Tampon?

I assume that you aren't awake at 4.00 am EST?

 

[Rex]

I could believe how cheap it was to go see an AFL game at the MCG.

 

[bloodsports]

it was a last round nothing game with both teams out of finals contention.

So what little duck? Why do you always feel the need to justify Leagues very poor record.
Every year there are plenty of dead rubber games in the AFL home and away games but getting less than 10 000 to any AFL game almost never happens.

Just face it there are huge cracks in the NRL armour and AFL is tight and extreamly passionatly followed and a much more exciting game and it just keeps coming and comming at Rugby league and there aint nothing league can do about it.

 

[Rex]

AFL is the be-all in melbourne. Hardly any competition in the winter.

In Sydney we have a thing called the union/league divide, plus a hefty number of ex-pat southerners who give AFL life, enough life to keep one side going strong.

Hopefully very strong on Friday night. Up the Swannies!

 

[bloodsports]

Welcome back to the Dark side Rex

 

[Rex]

Welcome back to the Dark side Rex

It's all good.

 

[copa]

You may be involving more people in England but what about Victoria, Tasmania, South Australia, Western Australia and Northern Territory. Your game has jach ******** support. Compare your pathetic numbers in England to the followers of soccer.

Compare australian rules football numbers in the UK to soccer....

 

[copa]

So what if Rugby League has this year drawn record crowds, TV ratings, sponsorship, junior participation rates etc

The FACT is Rugby League is so far behind the AFL in all key statistical data it will take it another 15 years of records just to draw close.

And even that timeframe is being generous considering the inroads AFL has made in Queensland & NSW compared to Rugby Leagues abandonment of having a national comp including WA & SA.

DST

Behind in the statistical data?! what a joke. How many pro-comps are there around the world, how many pro-players... how does the aussie rule world cup go in the tv ratings? etc etc

 

[copa]

Don't bother with these RL buffoons. For some unknown reason they have a problem with Geography and believe that QLD & NSW equal Australia and therefore a "National" game....oh yeah and there's that team down south that may as well be called the Melbourne Showers with all the support they get. Maybe the Melbourne Drizzle.

It shouldn't be called "national"... you are correct. The NRL has a team from another country so the "national" title doesn't really make sense.

 

[Diego]

You Rugby League fans are 5 beers short of a six pack. Just like the heroes who play the game who you all worship.

How can you guys claim that RL is more popular than AFL in Australia? I just can't fathom that at all.

 

[Punt_Road_Roar]

You Rugby League fans are 5 beers short of a six pack. Just like the heroes who play the game who you all worship.

How can you guys claim that RL is more popular than AFL in Australia? I just can't fathom that at all.

It makes them feel like their important, when in reality the rest of Australia doesnt give a $hit.

 

[MickZu]

yeah, 85% of the time.

NRL only just average 16468 in 2005, bit hard to see how they could get 25000 85% of the time.

 

[littleduck]

Which does tend to back up the theory that rugby league 'supporters' go for the event rather than to support their club and/or the game.

Seriously, 4,000 diehard supporters per club is abominable. You can hardly blame the venue either (as you tend to do )

You're right. It was below par. I'm on your side there.

 

[littleduck]

You have said this about 300 hundred million times......i am not exagerating


so ************g what

most people still dont understand AFL heartland is no bigger or smaller than RL heartland. therefore, most people need reminding of the obvious. you dont.

 

[fabulousphil]

most people still dont understand AFL heartland is no bigger or smaller than RL heartland. therefore, most people need reminding of the obvious. you dont.

Ok but these arguments tend to just go round and round.....heard it all before.... i prefer to bring new info to the debate....like Morris

 

[littleduck]

For some unknown reason they have a problem with Geography and believe that QLD & NSW equal Australia and therefore a "National" game....

For some unknown reason AFL have a problem with geography and believe that Sydney & Brisbane equal NSW & QLD and therefore have "truly national" coverage.

PS You can have England and wherever else you like. The fact is that the league is highly made up of players from Aust and NZ who are passed their prime and out to make a buck....and yes I know there are exceptions (Jamie Lyon for example).

remind me again what is the quota of international players for English Super League clubs?

 

[littleduck]

So what little duck? Why do you always feel the need to justify Leagues very poor record.
Every year there are plenty of dead rubber games in the AFL home and away games but getting less than 10 000 to any AFL game almost never happens.

you're right, it was a poor crowd. i cant explain it, except to point out it was a nothing game.

Just face it there are huge cracks in the NRL armour and AFL is tight and extreamly passionatly followed and a much more exciting game and it just keeps coming and comming at Rugby league and there aint nothing league can do about it.

RL is growing rapidly and nothing AFL can do will slow that growth. At the end of the day, both RL and AFL are growing.

 

[finders]

For some unknown reason AFL have a problem with geography and believe that Sydney & Brisbane equal NSW & QLD and therefore have "truly national" coverage.

remind me again what is the quota of international players for English Super League clubs?

So just like our thugby "national " teams that only have players from NSW and QLD = a joke When are the Melbourne Storm going to play a final at the MCG and get 72,000 like the Swans did a at Telstra???? = NEVER LD

 

[big bear]

Compare australian rules football numbers in the UK to soccer....

You were the one crowing about your game 's success in the United Kingdom. I was merely putting your "success" into perspective by comparing it to soccer in England. I was not cruel enough to include the rest of the UK, where your game has never been sighted. I don't care if Australian Rules is played there or not. I am more concerned that Australian rules is played in Australia. We have a national comp. You are restricted to 2 states and a token team in Melbourne. I wouldn't care if zero people play Australian Rules In the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

 

[Rob]

Yeah, i agree the crowd was pretty pathetic, but in the bigger picture,does it really mean/prove anything??

27,000 turned up to watch the same two teams play each other in April. That doesn't really mean/prove anything either...

It shows a huge chunk of NRL 'supporters' are bandwagoners. When the going gets tough, the rugby league fan f*cks off.

 

[copa]

You were the one crowing about your game 's success in the United Kingdom. I was merely putting your "success" into perspective by comparing it to soccer in England. I was not cruel enough to include the rest of the UK, where your game has never been sighted. I don't care if Australian Rules is played there or not. I am more concerned that Australian rules is played in Australia. We have a national comp. You are restricted to 2 states and a token team in Melbourne. I wouldn't care if zero people play Australian Rules In the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

3 states, one territory and a team from NZ.

You don't care if Aussie Rules is played in the UK.... 'cause the people there don't care. How far has aussie rules expanded in 100 years compared to most other sports?

 

[Cyclops]

League don't want to get into a p***ing contest with Footy, there's just no point. Their crowds are tiny, socially stratified and 90% male. Footy is a universally appealing sport. It has men, women, children, rich, poor, black, white and everything in between.

The game is played at the grassroots level in every state in Australia. it isn't tied to certain ethnic or social groups (like soccer league and union). As long as there is an Australia there will be Football.

Rugby League is firmly based around working-class Sydney. There's a bit of spread to QLD, Newcastle and a few industrial cities in England. Poor things are too narrowly based to ever challenge Footy.

Even in Sydney, where Rugby has its core of fans and the majority are dead to sports not involving bikinis, the artificial transplanted Swans can fill a stadium better than the dominant game. Poor league.

 

[copa]

League don't want to get into a p***ing contest with Footy, there's just no point. Their crowds are tiny, socially stratified and 90% male. Footy is a universally appealing sport. It has men, women, children, rich, poor, black, white and everything in between.

The game is played at the grassroots level in every state in Australia. it isn't tied to certain ethnic or social groups (like soccer league and union). As long as there is an Australia there will be Football.

Rugby League is firmly based around working-class Sydney. There's a bit of spread to QLD, Newcastle and a few industrial cities in England. Poor things are too narrowly based to ever challenge Footy.

Even in Sydney, where Rugby has its core of fans and the majority are dead to sports not involving bikinis, the artificial transplanted Swans can fill a stadium better than the dominant game. Poor league.

90% male??? How out of touch are you?? A higher % of teenage girls attend matches than boys.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National...-league-matches/2005/04/09/1112997222167.html

Research reveals an equal number of women and men attend games. Leading the way were young women, with 17 per cent of females in the 16- to 29-year-old age group attending games last year, compared with 13 per cent of males.
In 2002 just 10 per cent of females in that age group attended games, compared with 12 per cent of males.

As for socially stratified. Things aren't quite how you believe.

The Torque report showed.

Extract:

"WHAT is the richest sport in Australia as measured by fan base? Rugby union is likely to be the first sport to jump to mind - all those tweed jackets, leather elbow patches, Range Rovers and merchant bankers would seemingly guarantee the No.1 spot.

But a new survey by data marketing group, Torque, has found while union certainly has more seriously rich fans, rugby league is Australia's richest sport.

This is partly because it has more fans in the nation's most populous and expensive state, but it's still good news for a code widely regarded as the sport of the working class.

Torque says rugby league is the richest sport in "terms of the total affluence of its supporter base" - just beating the Australian Football League.

Part of the reason for this is that average incomes in rugby league strongholds NSW and Queensland are higher than in southern AFL states such as Victoria and South Australia.

... It also raises the question of whether rugby league has been marketing itself to the right audience.

... The image of the game is not reflected by its fan base," Cooper says. "But it is surprising that rugby league is as mid-market as it is."

It also raises the question of whether rugby league has been marketing itself to the right audience ... Torque also found that rugby league had more than its fair share of fans classified as senior government or business manager or executive."

and as for being accepted by people from everywhere.... you've obviously not been to many NRL games live. People in the crowd are from all over... Islamic women in veils at Bulldogs game (veils in club colour too for some of them!), chinese, folk from vietnam etc etc etc... In fact the Lebanese community in Sydney loves it so much they set up a domestic comp in lebanon.


You have no idea what you are talking about regarding rugby league.

 

[Doctorb]

90% male??? How out of touch are you?? A higher % of teenage girls attend matches than boys.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National...-league-matches/2005/04/09/1112997222167.html

Research reveals an equal number of women and men attend games. Leading the way were young women, with 17 per cent of females in the 16- to 29-year-old age group attending games last year, compared with 13 per cent of males.
In 2002 just 10 per cent of females in that age group attended games, compared with 12 per cent of males.

As for socially stratified. Things aren't quite how you believe.

The Torque report showed.

*snip*

You have no idea what you are talking about regarding rugby league.

He might have no idea, but you haven't refuted his point at all. He says that women make up only 10% of the crowd, and you give some statistic about teenagers? Please.

In fact, he's closer than you might think.

This report says that the Female proportion of the crowd at UK Rugby League games is only 15%. Quite small in anyone's language.
Now, granted that the report is from the UK, and a little under three years old, it still carries the significant point that a very low percentage of women attend Rugby League games. But by all means, if you can find a report of some description which definitively points out something otherwise or contradictory, please post it.

 

[BuffaloRules]

He might have no idea, but you haven't refuted his point at all. He says that women make up only 10% of the crowd, and you give some statistic about teenagers? Please.

In fact, he's closer than you might think.

This report says that the Female proportion of the crowd at UK Rugby League games is only 15%. Quite small in anyone's language.
Now, granted that the report is from the UK, and a little under three years old, it still carries the significant point that a very low percentage of women attend Rugby League games. But by all means, if you can find a report of some description which definitively points out something otherwise or contradictory, please post it.

Did you even read what he said??

"research reveals an equal number of men and women attend games".

Thanks for your piece on the UK RL. Not really relevant in my view. I don't think women attend any spectator sports over there in great numbers, certainly not soccer or rugy union either.