AFLW 2024 - Round 9 - Indigenous Round - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
Would prefer they get recruited as forwards coach, grab Bevo in a headlock in his office and say "stop ******* around with your versatility mantra and just play guys in their proper position and play with some goddamn structure!!!"
I debate that his best footy has been in the ruck. From memory the best game that he played was vs the Saints, and that was at FF. The only genuinely "good" game that he's played in the ruck was vs Geelong.
Yeh, great result
PF aside Roughy still played more minutes in the ruck than Boyd did. Hitout numbers prove that, as does my repeated viewing of the game.
Do you think he was? Are you suggesting the administration was negligent in making the offer? There’s no doubt it would’ve been a hard offer to turn down so I don’t think it would be fair to simply say he could’ve said no but some fairness should be afforded the makers of the offer as well. There’s a fairly reasonable basis to say it was made with the best of intentions for Bulldogs success (which came through) and I’d be staggered if discussions weren’t had about the pressure that would come with it (albeit perhaps more than anyone ultimately anticipated) but modern sport involves young people getting large amounts of money a lot around the world - enough to know that plenty rise to the occasion of that pressure. So unless there were obvious signs that he wouldn’t cope or it would harm his well-being and they offered anyway I would say the answer to your question on balance is no.
What, no 50% contribution to his salary per year for another 4 years? Sorry, not a realistic Bulldogs trade outcome m8.
You can't say that ScragCity, well actually you can. I no longer quote on he who must not be named as it never
End result was we won the flag and he was BOG - end of story. He doesn’t play = our last flag was 54’.
Ok then, I'll take your word for it - and respond.
The sliding doors of subsequent team selection, development, list management'and so on, put to the side, I don't think you can separate the positive change in club culture that led us to winning games immediately once McCartney left, from the bold decision to recruit Boyd. If you're making the list management decision to go into the draft with two top ten picks to 'rebuild', it's coming from a club culture that is admitting and having the attitude that it's not playing finals straight away, so we wouldn't have won as many games.
Funny, I read his question a different way (whether he meant it or not). I didn't see it as a declaration that the administration should have known better at the time and fluffed the deal. Just an observation from hindsight (and knowing what we know now about Boyd's psychological make-up) that perhaps it ended up putting young Tom in an almost impossible position.
Must admit in saying ‘destined to fail’ it read to me as a question of foresight and one that can only be premised on the administration being incompetent or negligent because it also premised on the making of the substantial offer causing the problem - i.e. it is premised on the offer being made knowing that it was destined to harm his wellbeing. I don’t think that’s reasonable (or put another way I’d be horrified if they said ‘well who cares it’s worth it’).
We would not have won the flag Scrag.
It's not that we couldn't have won a flag. It's just that we might not have won a flag (and arguably probably wouldn't have won a flag). If I had a time machine that could go back to the day Tom was recruited, I wouldn't run into Peter Gordon's office and tell him not to make the trade. That would risk losing the best day of many of our lives.
