News Where did they go? What has happened to delisted/retired players?

[Gadzorks]

Bring him back mid season. We’d never lose a centre clearance again.

He wouldn't be able to hit his weight target.

Browny once said the best thing about retirement was eating less and not having to keep weight on. Matho is clearly the opposite.

Maybe his lack of tank was not enough fuel.

 

[M Malice]

Three X Lions boys have been named in the Qld state squad to take on Tasmania ie. Rhys Mathieson

36

Rhys Mathieson

Age

28

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

9.2

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

3.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

18.4

5star

K

9.4

4star

HB

9.0

5star

M

2.2

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

2.8

5star

, Liam Dawson

Liam Dawson

Age

29

Ht

189cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.1

3star

MG

144.9

2star

No current season stats available

D

9.0

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.2

2star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.6

3star

MG

147.4

3star

and Matt Hammelmann.

https://www.aflq.com.au/coaches-and-squads-confirmed-for-2024-state-game/

The State Game between Queensland and Tasmania will take place at Bond University on Saturday June 22.

 

[DERRINALPHIL]

He might not be able to leave the centre circle

Or fit through the gate onto the ground!

 

[M Malice]

 

[M Malice]

 

[Miller1971]

Hammelman has won the goalkicking in every comp he has played in for the last 6-7 years.

Top of the ladder, bottom of the ladder teams in that period - no matter where he is, he just kicks bags.

Bit of a mystery how he never made it at the top level

 

[M Malice]

Hammelman has won the goalkicking in every comp he has played in for the last 6-7 years.

Top of the ladder, bottom of the ladder teams in that period - no matter where he is, he just kicks bags.

Bit of a mystery how he never made it at the top level

Some on big footy over the years have suggested he just wasn't motivated/dedicated enough re the demands of professional footy and the training loads required... happy to play at the lower levels and have more of a life outside of footy.

Which is fine, each to their own.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Hammelman has won the goalkicking in every comp he has played in for the last 6-7 years.

Top of the ladder, bottom of the ladder teams in that period - no matter where he is, he just kicks bags.

Bit of a mystery how he never made it at the top level

Definitely isn’t

Clearly isn’t interested otherwise he’d play in a decent comp instead of playing park footy with his mates

 

[Miller1971]

Definitely isn’t

Clearly isn’t interested otherwise he’d play in a decent comp instead of playing park footy with his mates

He was on an AFL list, then he played in the NEAFL with Redland, where he won the goalkicking several times.

This is not 'park footy' it was a state league comp, playing the Lions & Suns Reserves, Swans and Giants Reserves, Southport and so on. Very strong competition.

When that disbanded, he played VFL for Aspley and won the goalkicking again, in a team placed last on the ladder.

When Aspley dropped out of the VFL, he returned to the QAFL with Redland - and while this comp is not as strong as the old NEAFL, it is much stronger than the 2014-2020 version of the QAFL, as the removal of the NEAFL has seen much of that talent come into the QAFL that traditionally played NEAFL for local clubs.

It might be one of the weaker state leagues, but it is far removed from 'park footy'

 

[Nathan Barley]

He was on an AFL list, then he played in the NEAFL with Redland, where he won the goalkicking several times.

This is not 'park footy' it was a state league comp, playing the Lions & Suns Reserves, Swans and Giants Reserves, Southport and so on. Very strong competition.

When that disbanded, he played VFL for Aspley and won the goalkicking again, in a team placed last on the ladder.

When Aspley dropped out of the VFL, he returned to the QAFL with Redland - and while this comp is not as strong as the old NEAFL, it is much stronger than the 2014-2020 version of the QAFL, as the removal of the NEAFL has seen much of that talent come into the QAFL that traditionally played NEAFL for local clubs.

It might be one of the weaker state leagues, but it is far removed from 'park footy'

Perfectly reasonable to assume that even when he was playing VFL (or AFL) he was giving red flags that commitment was an issue

Usually if all the best footy minds multiple times don’t think someone is up to it then they are clearly not up to the level required

 

[Miller1971]

Absolutely, but its still somewhat of a mystery how he either didn't get another opportunity, didn't adjust his commitment levels etc.

Matthew Payne another good example, and its an even bigger mystery!

 

[briztoon]

Absolutely, but its still somewhat of a mystery how he either didn't get another opportunity, didn't adjust his commitment levels etc.

Matthew Payne another good example, and it’s an even bigger mystery!

Has he registered for the ND or MSD since being delisted by the Lions?

 

[Miller1971]

I believe, and don't quote me on it, he still held hopes of playing AFL until about 2021. COVID got in the way a bit, as he had signed to play VFL with Essendon in 2021, but decided not to risk being in Vic (great decision!)

He was leading goalkicker in the abridged 2020 QAFL Season, a competition that had Coleman, Ryan, Michael, Martyn and Cumberland drafted from it from memory.

 

[dlanod]

I believe, and don't quote me on it, he still held hopes of playing AFL until about 2021. COVID got in the way a bit, as he had signed to play VFL with Essendon in 2021, but decided not to risk being in Vic (great decision!)

He was leading goalkicker in the abridged 2020 QAFL Season, a competition that had Coleman, Ryan, Michael, Martyn and Cumberland drafted from it from memory.

I saw somewhere on here that he knocked back clubs last year and this year (MSD), so I guess that would somewhat align. There's usually a couple of years lag between someone getting delisted and getting a second chance, because clubs tend to assume players don't really develop in the lower leagues - instead they're just too good for that league but not good enough for the AFL. In Matt's case, that gap ended up being the COVID years when fewer players were getting chances generally too.

 

[Miller1971]

perhaps has a good professional career going of some kind, I know thats the case with a couple of other good players in the QAFL and VFL, where a rookie contract would result in a 50% paycut from their current wage, so they have moved on

 

[Perrip]

Paul Amy

A couple of VFL clubs had a dip at recruiting retiring Brisbane Lion and 2023 JJ Liston Trophy winner Jarryd Lyons

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Jarryd Lyons

Age

32

Ht

184cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.5

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

8.7

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

4.8

5star

D

21.7

5star

K

14.7

5star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

5.1

5star

CL

4.7

5star

D

11.0

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

5.8

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

CL

1.6

4star

. But they missed out - and are tipping he'll join Glenelg.

 

[briztoon]

Paul Amy

Surprised he’s not going straight into coaching.

Unless he wants a break from a full time environment.

 

[Dalions]

Surprised he’s not going straight into coaching.

Unless he wants a break from a full time environment.

Maybe nothing on offer yet.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Surprised he’s not going straight into coaching.

Unless he wants a break from a full time environment.

I think he said he'd like to keep playing while his body is still able. At a lower level he'll probably have more of an opportunity to both play and coach at the same time.

 

[M Malice]

I think he said he'd like to keep playing while his body is still able. At a lower level he'll probably have more of an opportunity to both play and coach at the same time.

I am now expecting Joe to suit up for the Casino Lions or Lismore Swans in 2025.

 

[Dalions]

I am now expecting Joe to suit up for the Casino Lions or Lismore Swans in 2025.

I do really feel that Joe will just float off into the Joe Universe.
But there is this little feeling in the back of my mind that he will have a year off and then want back in and not at the Lions.
Maybe a Hero’s return to the Bombers
But as I said I feel he will just disappear, never to be heard of again.
I really learnt to Love Joe for all of his good, bad and ugly but I would be pretty mighty pissed if he come back to another club.

 

[Mr Ripper]

JL’s off to play with Corey at Glenelg for a year and using it as a stepping stone into coaching.

 

[dlanod]

JL’s off to play with Corey at Glenelg for a year and using it as a stepping stone into coaching.

Poor Corey, always the stepping stone, never the stepper.

 

[LongLion]

JL’s off to play with Corey at Glenelg for a year and using it as a stepping stone into coaching.

Glenelg. Born in Adelaide and is my old team. Never missed a game up until I was 20 and moved away. Younger brother played for them as well so happy to see both Lyons playing for the bays. (pity about their colours)

 

[Grasshopper17]

I am now expecting Joe to suit up for the Casino Lions or Lismore Swans in 2025.

So he'll be eligible for the midseason draft?