Where does Dyson Heppell rate against his Peers?

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amcre said:
Went at 25% kicking efficiency in the first half on the weekend. Think he is a B+ at the moment but should be able to get to a solid A level.
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What about his second half?
 
I am Jack said:
Not a bad assessment there Fontane.
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yeah i guess i grouped based the intangible 'damaging possessions' stat. fyfe can destroy a team with 23 touches. but if heppell and the other second tier stars get low 20s poss you'd say they were pretty ineffectual...
 

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QuietB said:
You could make a very strong argument that Lewis is ahead of Heppell this year. Lewis has been amazing.

Right now Heppell has a had a career that ranks below Woewodin. Lets have this conversation in 5-10 years hey.
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yeah thats about right, for a player that is appealing to the hawthorn fan, heppell to be an a grader midfielder he needs to improve his, whinging & acting abilities, belting players behind play. but of course never to a hawthorn player
:rolleyes:
 
His ability to work through a tag is top notch for a player who has only played 80 odd games.

Compared to someone like Delidio (over 200 games) who won't / can't work through a tag and then has no influence on the game, Dyson is doing very well.
 
BomberBro2 said:
Tier AAA - Ablett
Tier AA - Pendlebury, Dangerfield
Tier A - Watson, Beams, Murphy, Cotchin, Selwood, Priddis
A Graders - etc.
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Is this supposed to be a "best of" list for players likely to miss the finals, or what? I don't get it.

I like the way Heppell plays. It was a good laugh seeing everyone call him soft and shit a few years back when he was backing into oncoming traffic to take marks and cutting teams up off half back.

Top 25 in the comp? maybe. Not as good as Gray and probably not as good as Boak and that's just from my team.
 
bomber6 said:
yeah thats about right, for a player that is appealing to the hawthorn fan, heppell to be an a grader midfielder he needs to improve his, whinging & acting abilities, belting players behind play. but of course never to a hawthorn player
:rolleyes:
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I have zero idea what you are on about :confused:

Heppell is in a group of about 30 midfielders who are all very good. Big deal.
 
Astro Bomber said:
You open threads like this, you open up to all kinds of stupid opinions.
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You mean opinions that you don't agree with. In a hypothetical poach of Essendon players, I'd go with Carlisle, Zaharakis and Watson ahead of Heppell.
 
bomber6 said:
yeah thats about right, for a player that is appealing to the hawthorn fan, heppell to be an a grader midfielder he needs to improve his, whinging & acting abilities, belting players behind play. but of course never to a hawthorn player
:rolleyes:
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Juvenile response from a clearly unbalanced poster.
 
Needs to be more damaging for a player that gets that much of the ball.

If he works on that and adds goal kicking to his game, i see no reason why he can't be one of the top mids in the game.
 
Very good player. Knows how to find the footy, works very hard, and seems a good all round guy (despite who he plays for).

Disposal is very average, and apart from his death by a thousand cuts style, he has little hurt factor.

A grade player.
 

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I think he is in the B+ category atm but has potential to go higher. Rockliff for example is a much more effective accumulator than Heppell is.

I think his output is in the similar category of Shuey, although Shuey is still offensively more effective. I think he has to use the ball better, especially when not doing the short uncontested lateral passes which tend to pad the effective disposal stat.
 
Klaus said:
Essendon board, but I'll bite.

I'd have him currently at B-grade level. His decision making is atrocious at times, his skills aren't anywhere near A-grade level, how often do you see him pinpoint a 50m pass? He rarely kicks goals and I've noticed that he butchers very gettable shots at goal. His main asset is his gut running and his ability to read the play, however he's a long way from A-Grade imo. I'd take Zaharakis before him any day of the week.
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u wot m8?
 
Tas said:
I think he is in the B+ category atm but has potential to go higher. Rockliff for example is a much more effective accumulator than Heppell is.

I think his output is in the similar category of Shuey, although Shuey is still offensively more effective. I think he has to use the ball better, especially when not doing the short uncontested lateral passes which tend to pad the effective disposal stat.
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I don't see how Shuey's output is comparable at all. Heppell is consistently brilliant/good whereas you never know what Shuey will turn up and how he'll go against the tag.

Personally I rate Heppell as one of the young guns who will replace the likes of Watson, Johnson and Mitchell as one of the top midfielders in the AFL.
 
paddy love said:
I don't see how Shuey's output is comparable at all. Heppell is consistently brilliant/good whereas you never know what Shuey will turn up and how he'll go against the tag.

Personally I rate Heppell as one of the young guns who will replace the likes of Watson, Johnson and Mitchell as one of the top midfielders in the AFL.
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Essendon has a better midfield in terms of caliber of players, Eagles have a lot of unknowns mostly, there is no Watson, Goddard, Chapman caliber players around Shuey.

Shuey averages 24.1 disposals at 72.1% efficiency, 10.4 contested possessions, 5.3 clearances, 1.2 D50 rebounds, 4.1 tackles, 4.3 I50s, has kicked 15.11 and has 14 goal assists.

Heppell averages 28.3 disposals at 67% efficiency, 12.1 contested possessions, 5.2 clearances, 1.5 D50 rebounds, 4.8 tackles, 2.9 I50s, has kicked 6.5 and has 10 goal assists.

You probably over-rate Heppell and under-rate Shuey a bit, which given one of your own players is involved is not surprising.

Could he become a Watson, Johnson or Mitchell? Perhaps, but a lot of players could perhaps.
 
Tas said:
Essendon has a better midfield in terms of caliber of players, Eagles have a lot of unknowns mostly, there is no Watson, Goddard, Chapman caliber players around Shuey.

Shuey averages 24.1 disposals at 72.1% efficiency, 10.4 contested possessions, 5.3 clearances, 1.2 D50 rebounds, 4.1 tackles, 4.3 I50s, has kicked 15.11 and has 14 goal assists.

Heppell averages 28.3 disposals at 67% efficiency, 12.1 contested possessions, 5.2 clearances, 1.5 D50 rebounds, 4.8 tackles, 2.9 I50s, has kicked 6.5 and has 10 goal assists.

You probably over-rate Heppell and under-rate Shuey a bit, which given one of your own players is involved is not surprising.

Could he become a Watson, Johnson or Mitchell? Perhaps, but a lot of players could perhaps.
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Shuey has two years on Heppell. If this is what Heppell is doing now, imagine what he'll be doing when he has two extra pre-seasons in him?
 
Tas said:
Essendon has a better midfield in terms of caliber of players, Eagles have a lot of unknowns mostly, there is no Watson, Goddard, Chapman caliber players around Shuey.

Shuey averages 24.1 disposals at 72.1% efficiency, 10.4 contested possessions, 5.3 clearances, 1.2 D50 rebounds, 4.1 tackles, 4.3 I50s, has kicked 15.11 and has 14 goal assists.

Heppell averages 28.3 disposals at 67% efficiency, 12.1 contested possessions, 5.2 clearances, 1.5 D50 rebounds, 4.8 tackles, 2.9 I50s, has kicked 6.5 and has 10 goal assists.

You probably over-rate Heppell and under-rate Shuey a bit, which given one of your own players is involved is not surprising.

Could he become a Watson, Johnson or Mitchell? Perhaps, but a lot of players could perhaps.
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No I rate Shuey quite highly and think he'd be a gun in a better side but as it stands despite what the averages say he isn't having the level of impact Heppell is consistently.
 
Not sure why but my two mates got into discussion about Heppell versus Rockliff yesterday. Thought it was odd coming from a Blues and Crows fan.

Who would the board take?
 
BomberBro2 said:
Recent weeks we've seen Dyson Heppell grit his teeth and drag his team forward at crucial stages of the game.

You've got:

Tier AAA - Ablett
Tier AA - Pendlebury, Dangerfield
Tier A - Watson, Beams, Murphy, Cotchin, Selwood, Priddis
A Graders - etc.

Moving forward, where does Dyson Heppell rate? How high is he now?
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Been watching him closely for a while. Very good player, coupla years maybe best mid in comp. Would give my left nut for him to be in purple (would need a haircut though, Fyfey's hair rules down Freo way).
 

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