Which Forward line would you rather have, Crows or Port?

[1990crow]

He kicked 18 in 7 games, then not much. It's why I said the jury is out on RT, too small of a sample size

The best run I can find from last year is 17 goals from 9 games.
So, no, not the same.

Also - you can't just ignore the rest of the season stats.

 

[1970crow]

I think it's about what Port get from the crumbers tbh finally getting that lumbering pillock into retirement hopefully changes things a bit too.

As for the other mob they'll get better service out of Fogarty & Thilthorpe if they piss Tex off to the glue factory.

Playing a 34 year old with a back injury is peak Adelaide FC. We did it with Smith too. With the pressure to make finals, I can see us repeating our idiocy.

 

[Go the Guts]

He kicked 18 in 7 games, then not much. It's why I said the jury is out on RT, too small of a sample size

Yeah nah. Will dominate the comp this year.

 

[SC_Power]

Which Forward line would you rather have, Crows or Port?
Last week there was a poll on the best forward lines in the AFL and laughed when i saw that Ports were up there and i got laughed at when i said the Crows forward line is much better and have more options.
Call be bias but i just cant see how Ports is better?

Crows:

HF: Keays Fogarty Neal-Bullen
F: Walker Thilthorpe Rachele/Rankine



Port:

HF: Powell-Pepper Lukocious Berry/Rozzee
F: Rioli Georgiadis Lord



Thoughts?

Adelaide.

Next question.

 

[Mr Meow]

Adelaide.

Next question.

Pizza or pasta?

 

[SC_Power]

Adelaide’s 3 highest scoring mids were Rankine, Sholl and Dawson with 51 goals.

Ports highest 3 were JHF, Rozee and Butters with 55

Somehow Port Adelaide kicked only 5 goals more than Adelaide last season.

Not the whole story though.

Port Adelaide kicked 5 goals 75 behinds more.

 

[Mr Meow]

Somehow Port Adelaide kicked only 5 goals more than Adelaide last season.

Not the whole story though.

Port Adelaide kicked 5 goals 75 behinds more.

It's long been an issue.

I've heard some Port supporters say it's all about the poor entries and hence tougher shots. Maybe that's part of it, but I've watched a fair bit of Port and they seem to simply lack that clinical edge when it comes to finishing.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

He kicked 18 in 7 games, then not much. It's why I said the jury is out on RT, too small of a sample size

so you're just cherry picking the games he kicked the most goals in?

taking the piss, surely

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Somehow Port Adelaide kicked only 5 goals more than Adelaide last season.

Not the whole story though.

Port Adelaide kicked 5 goals 75 behinds more.

how many were rushed? port averaged around 5 more forward 50 entries

 

[SC_Power]

how many were rushed? port averaged around 5 more forward 50 entries

My quick count had Adelaide with more rushed behinds than Port.

Averaging 5 more entries, over 23 games, is 115 more over the season.
80 more scoring shots isn’t a ridiculous amount more in that scenario.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

It's long been an issue.

I've heard some Port supporters say it's all about the poor entries and hence tougher shots. Maybe that's part of it, but I've watched a fair bit of Port and they seem to simply lack that clinical edge when it comes to finishing.

"The Power ranked 12th in the league last year for goals from 0-15m, last for expected accuracy and bottom for accuracy, according to Champion Data statistics.

Ken Hinkley’s side was essentially taking the most difficult shots of any team, contributing to struggles in front of goal."

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[#Port Patriot#]

It's long been an issue.

I've heard some Port supporters say it's all about the poor entries and hence tougher shots. Maybe that's part of it, but I've watched a fair bit of Port and they seem to simply lack that clinical edge when it comes to finishing.

It's a mixture of poor entries due to bomb it to Dixon and/or bad leads to better positions plus the front half forward pressure which is great and all, but, then you get some of the players who might be good forward pressure getting the ball and kicking poorly for goal. Love Sam Powell-Pepper but he's not the best kick for goal. Plus others.. if Port had these players more accurate and the leads better to create better position for kicking for goal, they'd no doubt be top in regards to points scored and % etc.. plus actually winning games they should have.

 

[Mr Meow]

"The Power ranked 12th in the league last year for goals from 0-15m, last for expected accuracy and bottom for accuracy, according to Champion Data statistics.

Ken Hinkley’s side was essentially taking the most difficult shots of any team, contributing to struggles in front of goal."

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Like I said, it's part of it. Not all of it.

 

[crows dude]

Port's got a few of the best crumbing forwards, but only 1 decent tall forward. Similar to The Crows who only have 1 decent tall forward, too, Walker completely dropped off, he was the difference in 2023. Probably pick Port's just because their crumbers are real clutch players. See that Hawthorn game where their crumbers Rioli and Byrne-Jones snatch the win off Hawthorn with 23 seconds to go.

Thilthorpe?? Fogarty?

 

[javaguice]

You know what! I'm really not sure....

 

[GoldbergsGold]

Thilthorpe?? Fogarty?

Thilthorpe only kicked 15 goals in 2024, and he didn't really play much in 2024. And he kicked 18 in 2023 in 21 games. Even Charlie Dixon who wasn't that good performed better than him in 2024 and 2023. Fogarty is the only dominate tall forward for The Crows, the rest are smaller guys. Walker completely dropped off from 2023. Whereas Port's smaller guys got them over the line, the Crows would lose close matches. That's why I picked Port's forward line, since their crumbers kept getting them over the line, whereas the Crows couldn't.

 

[Shueygod]

Thilthorpe only kicked 15 goals in 2024, and he didn't really play much in 2024. And he kicked 18 in 2023 in 21 games. Even Charlie Dixon who wasn't that good performed better than him in 2024 and 2023. Fogarty is the only dominate tall forward for The Crows, the rest are smaller guys. Walker completely dropped off from 2023. Whereas Port's smaller guys got them over the line, the Crows would lose close matches. That's why I picked Port's forward line, since their crumbers kept getting them over the line, whereas the Crows couldn't.

Thilthorpe will be a top 3 KPF in the comp in 2025 if he stays fit.

 

[GoldbergsGold]

Thilthorpe will be a top 3 KPF in the comp in 2025 if he stays fit.

Yeah, I mean it remains to be seen, but as of now, Port's forward line got Port over the line, last season, so many times, I'd rate them higher. No doubt The Crows could get better, but I don't know if it'd be next season, I think they might need a proper rebuild with a new coach. All their best players are past their late 20s.

 

[Shueygod]

Yeah, I mean it remains to be seen, but as of now, Port's forward line got Port over the line, last season, so many times, I'd rate them higher. No doubt The Crows could get better, but I don't know if it'd be next season, I think they might need a proper rebuild with a new coach. All their best players are past their late 20s.

Nah, dead wrong imo. Thei three best players are Dawson, Thilthorpe and Rankine. Yet to be seen if they have enough top end talent to be a true contender but they’re certainly in better shape than port.

 

[GoldbergsGold]

Nah, dead wrong imo. Thei three best players are Dawson, Thilthorpe and Rankine. Yet to be seen if they have enough top end talent to be a true contender but they’re certainly in better shape than port.

Laird is their best player, he's 31. Dawson will be 28, soon, that's not really youth. Same with Keays who is 28 on Sunday, he won their best and fairest, they're relying heavily on late 20s to early 30s players.

Thilthorpe wouldn't even be in their top 20, he missed a lot of footy and wasn't like a top tier ruck/forward in 2023. A cooked Charlie Dixon scored more goals and had a similar amount of hit outs with 7 less games played in 2023.

 

[Shueygod]

Laird is their best player, he's 31. Dawson will be 28, soon, that's not really youth. Same with Keays who is 28 on Sunday, he won their best and fairest, they're relying heavily on late 20s to early 30s players.

Thilthorpe wouldn't even be in their top 20, he missed a lot of footy and wasn't like a top tier ruck/forward in 2023. A cooked Charlie Dixon scored more goals and had a similar amount of hit outs with 7 less games played in 2023.

It’s fine to admit you don’t watch Adelaide mate.

 

[GoldbergsGold]

It’s fine to admit you don’t watch Adelaide mate.

Yeah, I have, and I checked the stats. Crouch and Laird who are 30 plus this year are their top ball getters. Port's mostly 24 or below. If this were early last year, Walker would have be the difference making their forward superior (with a vastly inferior midfield), but he's cooked, now. Port kept pinching games using their forward crumbers, so they're definitely better.

 

[Shueygod]

Yeah, I have, and I checked the stats. Crouch and Laird who are 30 plus this year are their top ball getters. Port's mostly 24 or below. If this were early last year, Walker would have be the difference making their forward superior (with a vastly inferior midfield), but he's cooked, now. Port kept pinching games using their forward crumbers, so they're definitely better.

If you think Laird, who in all likelihood is getting shifted from the middle this year, is their best player then you seriously do not watch them.

Thilthorpe showed last year as a 22yo forward that he alone can be a difference maker.

I’d take Adelaide’s list over ports right now even considering ports elite midfield, they have very little at either end to get excited about.

 

[GoldbergsGold]

If you think Laird, who in all likelihood is getting shifted from the middle this year, is their best player then you seriously do not watch them.

Laird had by far the highest disposal count and clearance count out of all the players in 2024 at Adelaide, and was second in their Brownlow count. For a team that's "rebuilding" they're not really rebuilding, because they're relying on late 20s to early 30s players to do most of the work load. I think their coach Nicks is trying to survive and hoping they pull something off, but it's just delaying the inevitable. They should have made their youth do all the hard work by now, they're going to have to get rid of Nicks and do it when he's gone, so they're going to fall back down the ladder again.

Thilthorpe showed last year as a 22yo forward that he alone can be a difference maker.

Only 7 games, though, and the year before wasn't that amazing when he did play most games. Needs a whole season played to see if he can stay consistent at 2 goals a match.

I’d take Adelaide’s list over ports right now even considering ports elite midfield, they have very little at either end to get excited about.

I mean, I don't think Port's really going places, but Adelaide's messed up not relying on their youth during a supposed "rebuild". I think Nicks was worried that doing that would have made The Crows really bad, he just wanted to have The Crows not be the worst in order to survive 6 seasons as coach.

 

[Freomaniac]

Which Forward line would you rather have, Crows or Port?
Last week there was a poll on the best forward lines in the AFL and laughed when i saw that Ports were up there and i got laughed at when i said the Crows forward line is much better and have more options.
Call be bias but i just cant see how Ports is better?

Crows:

HF: Keays Fogarty Neal-Bullen
F: Walker Thilthorpe Rachele/Rankine



Port:

HF: Powell-Pepper Lukocious Berry/Rozzee
F: Rioli Georgiadis Lord



Thoughts?

Ports forward line is ok. Lacks that full forward that can be the bulldozer role. Port needs that 200 cm kpf ruck in the goal square that can lure another tall defender.