Opinion Who gets the snip? Keeffe, Mackie, Schade & McCarthy confirmed, see post #342

[Crazy Tails]

No credibility.
Just pathetic. He should be happy somebody gives him a gig.
KB always with the off centre types.

Yeah he comes across as having all the inside info but his record of getting them right is atrocious.

It's gotten to a stage where whatever he says I expect the exact opposite to happen.


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[THATSGOLD]

Waldron just last week said Cox would be at Brisbane next year. Full of crap.

Not full of crap, Brisbane offered him a deal and we bettered it. That's why he's got 3 years at Collingwood.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Not full of crap, Brisbane offered him a deal and we bettered it. That's why he's got 3 years at Collingwood.

He got it wrong but

 

[jatsad]

Waldron just last week said Cox would be at Brisbane next year. Full of crap.

Why do we give this crud airtime?
He was dishonest as an administrator and hasn't got any inside info correct yet.

 

[frizzle]

Not full of crap, Brisbane offered him a deal and we bettered it. That's why he's got 3 years at Collingwood.

No in fact he said he WILL be at Brisbane next year. He was wrong yet again. Not sure how even you can argue with that.

 

[Scodog10]

Not full of crap, Brisbane offered him a deal and we bettered it. That's why he's got 3 years at Collingwood.

You do realise that your bullshit is fairly obvious when you post the bolded.

In what bizarro land would we need to trump Brisbane's offer in order to retain him? He's already a Collingwood player so the only logical conclusion in reference to the Brisbane deal is that we matched it.

 

[frizzle]

You do realise that your bullshit is fairly obvious when you post the bolded.

In what bizarro land would we need to trump Brisbane's offer in order to retain him? He's already a Collingwood player so the only logical conclusion in reference to the Brisbane deal is that we matched it.

Rumour had it that we already had a 2 year deal on the table for him. The fact that he eventually signed a 3 year deal may mean the length of contract was the main sticking point. Nothing to do with Brisbane as you say.

 

[Snoop Dog]

I would be delisting;

Ramsay - albeit think might be a chance of getting something late for him or slightly improving a pick. Unlikely though.
Blair - albeit slight chance may get something for but more likely a DFA.
Sier - Would think about taking back as a rookie
Oxley - would pay him out but would create a new spot
Schade


Mackie - didnt see anything to suggest worth keeping
McCarthy - 50:50 as didnt have great run at it so happy either way.

White - Retired

 

[jackcass]

With a few of our important uncontracted players being signed up recently (Grundy/Cox/Sack) I'm thinking the delistings/list changes might not be far away now.

Not sure there will be wholesale list changes; I think the club are trying to promote a little bit of stability after a couple of off seasons with heavy trade activity and list culling.

You would think that McCarthy/Lynch would be safe for another year on the rookie list but I think Liam Mackie might be in trouble. If Blair and Oxley are contracted then I'm not sure who else we chop. Maybe Sier off the main list and onto the rookie list.

Further list changes can come out of the trade period (maybe Smith/Fas etc).

List lodgement not until after the trade week so doubt there's any rush.

 

[jackcass]

Why do we give this crud airtime?
He was dishonest as an administrator and hasn't got any inside info correct yet.

Exactly, why give them air in the 1st place.

 

[whiskeytown]

I would be delisting;

Ramsay - albeit think might be a chance of getting something late for him or slightly improving a pick. Unlikely though.
Blair - albeit slight chance may get something for but more likely a DFA.
Sier - Would think about taking back as a rookie
Oxley - would pay him out but would create a new spot
Schade


Mackie - didnt see anything to suggest worth keeping
McCarthy - 50:50 as didnt have great run at it so happy either way.

White - Retired

I'd give Ramsay another year... but have him firmly on the trade table as part any deal involving Fasolo or as part of a like for like player swap for a Victorian at Freo or WCE.

The rest I agree with. Want the spaces on the senior list as want the club to take 4 in the draft with at least two of those players KPP.... with Tyler Brown on either the senior or rookie list.

 

[pablo disco bar]

Think ramsay will ask to be traded tbh we will get nothing for him unfortunately
And i think he will turn put a decent player

 

[Scodog10]

Ramma is as likely to be traded as Broomhead. If they're making it from this point onwards it's at Collingwood and it wouldn't be worth it for another club to take them on. They've had injury free seasons for the first time in their careers so will get a full pre-season (touch wood) and the opportunity to have a red hot crack at it. Their last opportunity, IMO.

 

[Smoky]

Last year they announced the first delistings on the 22nd of sept.

 

[Soups]

Last year they announced the first delistings on the 22nd of sept.

Cool so we have time to brace ourselves for when Blair isn't on the list of delistees.

 

[Schraderbrau]

I would be delisting;

Ramsay - albeit think might be a chance of getting something late for him or slightly improving a pick. Unlikely though.
Blair - albeit slight chance may get something for but more likely a DFA.
Sier - Would think about taking back as a rookie
Oxley - would pay him out but would create a new spot
Schade


Mackie - didnt see anything to suggest worth keeping
McCarthy - 50:50 as didnt have great run at it so happy either way.

White - Retired

Ramsay was terrible when he played this season but I'd keep him seeing as he's one year off a knee reco, should be hitting his physical prime in the next season or two, and we have very little by way of small defender stocks. He also looked promising before he did his knee. Reckon Sinclair is more likely to be shown the door than him tbh.

Probably keep Sier as well considering we drafted him as a project and he had some injuries we may as well make absolutely sure he's not good enough before we get rid of him. So at the very least he needs to be rookied.

Watched Keefe a few times this season in the VFL and he looks way off AFL. Schade was often terrible but at least he had some moments at AFL level that make you think he could be capable depth. Keefe getting to his late 20's and probably on the slippery dip. Schade in early 20's and not someone who is a natural to the game may still find some improvement.

Can't believe that oxley is still contracted for next season. Not even sure if he's capable depth the way AFL is played now tbh. Too slow and lacks strength. Only thing he's a got going for him is that he's a tidy kick and that's not enough.

It's pretty depressing that we could well be going into 2018 with Blair, Oxley and Keefe as listed players tbh.

 

[Snoop Dog]

Ramsay was terrible when he played this season but I'd keep him seeing as he's one year off a knee reco, should be hitting his physical prime in the next season or two, and we have very little by way of small defender stocks. He also looked promising before he did his knee. Reckon Sinclair is more likely to be shown the door than him tbh.

Probably keep Sier as well considering we drafted him as a project and he had some injuries we may as well make absolutely sure he's not good enough before we get rid of him. So at the very least he needs to be rookied.

Watched Keefe a few times this season in the VFL and he looks way off AFL. Schade was often terrible but at least he had some moments at AFL level that make you think he could be capable depth. Keefe getting to his late 20's and probably on the slippery dip. Schade in early 20's and not someone who is a natural to the game may still find some improvement.

Can't believe that oxley is still contracted for next season. Not even sure if he's capable depth the way AFL is played now tbh. Too slow and lacks strength. Only thing he's a got going for him is that he's a tidy kick and that's not enough.

It's pretty depressing that we could well be going into 2018 with Blair, Oxley and Keefe as listed players tbh.

Yeah but they need to create list spots. How would you create 4-5 list spots.

I am relaxed if Ramsay stays and Sinclair goes. For mine I would be playing Varcoe as that quick runner next year so dont need both and frankly I think both have been given plenty of chances. Smith also in the mix and I'd go either way.

Keefe I am probably warmer on then Schade only on basis he is played as a defender. Schade I thought was just awful at times in the VFL late.

I agree re Sier being rookied. Last game was good and just a shame didnt play in the final. On thin ice though and Wills is a very similar player so he is a far way back.

 

[Mongo Ming]

I would be delisting;

Ramsay - albeit think might be a chance of getting something late for him or slightly improving a pick. Unlikely though.
Blair - albeit slight chance may get something for but more likely a DFA.
Sier - Would think about taking back as a rookie
Oxley - would pay him out but would create a new spot
Schade


Mackie - didnt see anything to suggest worth keeping
McCarthy - 50:50 as didnt have great run at it so happy either way.

White - Retired

I actually liked what I saw of McCarthy. Was captain fumbles in defence but when moved forward took some nice clunks and kicked straight for goal. If he puts weight on could possibly be a player so I'd definitely hold. Pity he got injured.

Sier, not even sure he's worth a rookie spot but may as well rookie if there's nothing decent with our last pick. Definitely wouldn't retain on the senior list. Looks like a hail mary pick that won't work out. Hine obviously regretted missing the boat on Cripps and tried to create his own version.

All the rest.. flush. NFI how Oxley got that contract. Not sure there is any trade value in any of those blokes considering we got pick 105(?) for Marley and he's better than the lot of them.

Varcoe looks like his hammies etc only have about a season left in them so might be worth using him as a trade sweetener.

 

[Unknown Identity]

DELIST

Blair - Sier - Schade - Mackie

TRADE BAIT (i use the term bait very loosely)

Broomhead - Ramsay - Oxley (haha) - Aish - Smith

RETIREMENT

White

 

[Schraderbrau]

Yeah but they need to create list spots. How would you create 4-5 list spots.

I am relaxed if Ramsay stays and Sinclair goes. For mine I would be playing Varcoe as that quick runner next year so dont need both and frankly I think both have been given plenty of chances. Smith also in the mix and I'd go either way.

Keefe I am probably warmer on then Schade only on basis he is played as a defender. Schade I thought was just awful at times in the VFL late.

I agree re Sier being rookied. Last game was good and just a shame didnt play in the final. On thin ice though and Wills is a very similar player so he is a far way back.

1. Blair
2. Oxley
3. Keefe
4. Crocker

These four offer nothing for the future imo. Maybe delist Sinclair as a 5th although would prefer to keep because he's a pretty good player imo and fits a position where we have no depth.

 

[Trumpadvisor]

Blair! and I mean the medical snip too so there is no chance of father son picks.

 

[whiskeytown]

I'm growing impatient. I want delistings....

 

[legendstatus]

DELIST

Blair - Sier - Schade - Mackie

TRADE BAIT (i use the term bait very loosely)

Broomhead - Ramsay - Oxley (haha) - Aish - Smith

RETIREMENT

White

Going to be a quiet trade period based on these names


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[Crazy Tails]

So White (retired) is still the only confirmed off from our list.

Trade write up in today’s paper has Sinclair and Keeffe as free agents yet to re-sign and that our only remaining uncontracted players are
Ramsay, Blair and Schade.

Think we might see how we are placed post trade period and then make a call on the above names.


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[Smoky]

So White (retired) is still the only confirmed off from our list.

Trade write up in today’s paper has Sinclair and Keeffe as free agents yet to re-sign and that our only remaining uncontracted players are
Ramsay, Blair and Schade.

Think we might see how we are placed post trade period and then make a call on the above names.


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Wouldn't Blair be a free agent too?