Opinion Who gets the snip? Keeffe, Mackie, Schade & McCarthy confirmed, see post #342

[Horaceg]

That is going to be problematic in any trade negotiations then, might not get that 3rd round I was hoping for, may have to settle for a late 4th

Weekend at Oxleys

 

[Jasper84]

Weekend at Oxleys

I hear a weekend with Oxley can take two years off your life.

 

[pablo disco bar]

Maybe oxley for this murray fella?

 

[didaksrightfoot]

I would. He's soft, unaccountable, slow and turns it over a lot by foot. A very overrated kick of the footy.

It's a shame he was injured this year.
Would've been good to get in a few of those 20-30 possession games off half back to push his trade value up to the Seedsman/Kennedy type of range.

Do you reckon we could just move his 2015 & 16 stats forward a season and convince a team to bite?

I think he still has value on a list, because play him in that specific role (loose off HB/wing with no defensive responsibility) and he actually looks pretty good. We know he struggles when the pressure was applied, but that doesn't mean he doesnt have a future at this level (just maybe not for a team like ours)

 

[domin8tors]

I would have rather "you do coke laced with WADA banned drugs youll lose your spot on an AFL list"

if everyone in society got sacked for making a mistake we would have more then half the Australian population unemployed and on the street.

 

[Maggie5]

Listened to Hocking on our website when he was asked of expectations and one of the things he mentioned was that players need keep their locker area clean and tidy because he said, 'the standard you walk past is the standard you accept'. Clicked off thinking, 'What did he say?'

 

[ThePhantom777]

I will never understand why they played Keeffe up forward in the VFL?? He was turning into a solid (not spectacular) tall back before his suspension. With his time out of the game he has several years of footy to offer. http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/qa-lachie-keeffe/

 

[DraftBalta]

Listened to Hocking on our website when he was asked of expectations and one of the things he mentioned was that players need keep their locker area clean and tidy because he said, 'the standard you walk past is the standard you accept'. Clicked off thinking, 'What did he say?'

He's saying you are either a master of order or a victim of chaos

 

[Scodog10]

I hear a weekend with Oxley can take two years off your life.

Reading this put an image in my head of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas! Oxley (Depp) and Steele (De Toro) as the main attractions.

 

[Lefthanded]

Listened to Hocking on our website when he was asked of expectations and one of the things he mentioned was that players need keep their locker area clean and tidy because he said, 'the standard you walk past is the standard you accept'. Clicked off thinking, 'What did he say?'

I read it as standards should be high in every aspect. Take that as high expectations but club probably not going to come out saying finals, top 4 or any hard and fast outcome.

 

[TKiL]

I hear a weekend with Oxley can take two years off your life.

But if you stay at Oxley (NE Vic) and visit the wineries at Milawa etc it can add 2+ years to your life. Try Taminick Cellars a little way away - The Booths used to be a great entertainers - possibly still are...

 

[TKiL]

Listened to Hocking on our website when he was asked of expectations and one of the things he mentioned was that players need keep their locker area clean and tidy because he said, 'the standard you walk past is the standard you accept'. Clicked off thinking, 'What did he say?'

Someone on Nick's going ballistic over the same comment. Also some posts on Nicks in same thread re the standards Wayne Bennett required at Bris Broncos. IMO a neat, tidy locker room is not an imposition. Better than people leaving stuff everywhere and expecting someone else to pick it up. This is a general comment as I have no idea what Pies' locker room is like.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Coach Boone required everyone to wear jackets and ties on the bus in Remember The Titans, too. So what?

 

[Maggie5]

I read it as standards should be high in every aspect. Take that as high expectations but club probably not going to come out saying finals, top 4 or any hard and fast outcome.

Yeah I get that but not sure that is one of the things I would mention first media interview. Does he know that they don't?

 

[barrackers]

Sier re-signed to the senior list, Lynch to the rookie list. Both 1 year deals.

http://m.collingwoodfc.com.au/video/2017-10-13/two-midfielders-resign

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Sier re-signed to the senior list, Lynch to the rookie list. Both 1 year deals.

http://m.collingwoodfc.com.au/video/2017-10-13/two-midfielders-resign

Very tidy Ms Allen.

Good news re Sier.

Let him have a good preseason and uninterrupted season, they'll well see what's there.
Good cheap cost to us too

 

[whiskeytown]

Should've cut and rookied Sier IMO.

Real waste giving him a 1yr deal on the senior list when all indications are that he is incredibly far off senior footy taking into account his:

- age (not even 20 yet)
- conditioning and growing into his body
- persistent injuries
- midfield depth at Collingwood
- his lack of good form in VFL games over the last two years.

So why have him on the senior list for 1 yr if he is very unlikely to push for a senior game in that time...??

Giving him a (potential) 3 year rookie spot gives him time to mature and develop whilst not taking up a senior spot that could go to a young or recycled tall or other greater positional need.

List management at pies continues to baffle

 

[Pippie27]

Should've cut and rookied Sier IMO.
Giving him a (potential) 3 year rookie spot gives him time to mature and develop whilst not taking up a senior spot that could go to a young or recycled tall or other greater positional need.

List management at pies continues to baffle

Considering the changes to the rules surrounding rookies following the new CBA which is they dont need to wait for injury to play, then there is no difference anymore between the two except for pay and contract lengths.

 

[Rorzza]

Good news on Sier and Lynch, both are exciting talents!

 

[DraftBalta]

If we are honest Oxley Ramsay Mayne Blair Smith offer very little even as depth, the list management team have dropped the ball on this window, if there even is one

 

[Lefthanded]

Yeah I get that but not sure that is one of the things I would mention first media interview. Does he know that they don't?

I have no idea other than statistically I'd imagine in a group of players that size there'd be some where it would be low priority. I see it a bit of a leaf out of MM's book (think Ox is slow but earth is patient) - give them something without giving them much and you can be perceived more favourably then a gruff 'We are keeping our expectations internal'

Should've cut and rookied Sier IMO.

Real waste giving him a 1yr deal on the senior list when all indications are that he is incredibly far off senior footy taking into account his:

- age (not even 20 yet)
- conditioning and growing into his body
- persistent injuries
- midfield depth at Collingwood
- his lack of good form in VFL games over the last two years.

So why have him on the senior list for 1 yr if he is very unlikely to push for a senior game in that time...??

Giving him a (potential) 3 year rookie spot gives him time to mature and develop whilst not taking up a senior spot that could go to a young or recycled tall or other greater positional need.

List management at pies continues to baffle

bolded - question is whether it's worth the risk that someone else take him in the draft (rookie or senior) ahead of us. If we see enough in him to persist another club could easily too, especially given his youth, size etc especially in light of Pippie27 response

 

[Schraderbrau]

Listened to Hocking on our website when he was asked of expectations and one of the things he mentioned was that players need keep their locker area clean and tidy because he said, 'the standard you walk past is the standard you accept'. Clicked off thinking, 'What did he say?'

Shane Warne disagrees with this

 

[Schraderbrau]

Someone on Nick's going ballistic over the same comment. Also some posts on Nicks in same thread re the standards Wayne Bennett required at Bris Broncos. IMO a neat, tidy locker room is not an imposition. Better than people leaving stuff everywhere and expecting someone else to pick it up. This is a general comment as I have no idea what Pies' locker room is like.

i reckon its a breach of their human rights

 

[TKiL]

i reckon its a breach of their human rights

No doubt the HRC will be pleased to receive a full submission

 

[whiskeytown]

bolded - question is whether it's worth the risk that someone else take him in the draft (rookie or senior) ahead of us. If we see enough in him to persist another club could easily too, especially given his youth, size etc especially in light of Pippie27 response

Doubt another team would take him ahead of us.... played only a handful of TAC cup games in his draft year, was a shock selection by Collingwood, and has done nothing of note since.

Pies will have multiple rookie draft picks to snap him up with.