Coach Who should be our next coach?

[Lore]

Spoiler: Timeline and reported candidates

15/8 Board toppled (reportedly will pursue Clarkson)
19/8 Alastair Clarkson to join North
21/8 Ben Rutten

Ben Rutten

Age

41

Ht

190cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.4

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

7.0

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

10.6

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.0

3star

sacked
22/8 Coach selection sub-committee to be established to find a replacement
26/8 Committee members announced: Josh Mahoney

Josh Mahoney

Age

47

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.5

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

(GM-Footy, chair), Dorothy Hisgrove (Board member), Andrew Thorburn, Simone McKinnis, Robert Walls, Jordan Lewis

Jordan Lewis

Age

38

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.7

4star

MG

310.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

15.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.8

5star

7/9 James Hird, Dean Solomon

Dean Solomon

Age

45

Ht

189cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

5.5

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

3.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

17.6

5star

K

13.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

2.8

5star

, Brendon Lade

Brendon Lade

Age

48

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.0

3star

HO

15.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.4

4star

HO

9.6

5star

, Adem Yze

Adem Yze

Age

47

Ht

187cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.2

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.6

1star

T

0.6

3star

interviewed at EY
13/9 Daniel Giansiracusa

Daniel Giansiracusa

Age

42

Ht

182cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.6

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

10.2

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.0

4star

reportedly interviewed
17/9 Don Pyke “not pursuing that at this stage”
21/9 Brad Scott contacted by the club but won’t make a decision on whether to pursue the role until after the Grand Final
21/9 Adem Yze

Adem Yze

Age

47

Ht

187cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.2

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.6

1star

T

0.6

3star

has second interview and tours the training facilities at Tullamarine
22/9 Blake Caracella

Blake Caracella

Age

47

Ht

186cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.5

4star

K

10.1

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.6

3star

will put his hat in the ring
27/9 Brendon Lade

Brendon Lade

Age

48

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.0

3star

HO

15.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.4

4star

HO

9.6

5star

appointed as assistant coach at the Western Bulldogs, out of the running for Essendon job
28/9 Brad Scott to be interviewed on Thursday
29/9

 

[footyfanatic111]

Gil made it sound like Clarkson and Fagan will be stepping down today. Relevance to this thread is that we should probably get a move on hiring a coach whilst there is less (no) competition for a head coach.

Think you could rule out a Brad Scott return to north haha the Brisbane side of it might be a spanner

 

[Lore]

Perhaps it is time for a new poll above to be posted featuring only the current candidates.

Which are who?

 

[faible]

On Yze, he should be allowed to explain on what he knew as he goes through the process. The club should try and verify that the best they can.

Let's not forget that Simon Goodwin was in a similar position at our club during the supplements scandal yet then went on to become senior coach and a premiership coach at Melbourne.

The difference is that Goodwin was definitely involved. Yze seems less likely than likely to have been involved given the timeline, but should still be asked about it.

Second Bomber coach implicated in scandal

Simon Goodwin is the latest Bombers official to become implicated in the supplements scandal

www.afl.com.au

 

[Doss]

surely theres a lingering legacy issue on Mitchell if it was under his captancy

Mitchell? He was captain only until about 2009.

 

[naraku]

If true, thank **** we didn't get Clarko!


Come on Brad, apply !

 

[andleanback]

He was also runner.

You can tell me I'm wrong all you want mate. It doesn't change that I know some clubs get staff involved at all elements if they think it'll benefit their training and development. Even those in a part time capacity.

I'm not saying it happened at Hawthorn with Yze at all, but it does happen. Different clubs do things differently.

So beveridge, Simpson and graham wright should stand down aswell? How about the actual facts come out before every single person with a role at hawthorn in the past gets brought into this.

 

[boncer34]

So beveridge, Simpson and graham wright should stand down aswell? How about the actual facts come out before every single person with a role at hawthorn in the past gets brought into this.

He was also runner.

You can tell me I'm wrong all you want mate. It doesn't change that I know some clubs get staff involved at all elements if they think it'll benefit their training and development. Even those in a part time capacity.

I'm not saying it happened at Hawthorn with Yze at all, but it does happen. Different clubs do things differently.

 

[boncer34]

Which are who?

There's a few I'd confidently cut.

Knights, Harvey, Bolton, Teague, Richardson, Noble and Cox. Are they linked at all?

 

[Nifft]

Which are who?

I'd say to cut all the people who have been involved at a club during some sort of scandal... but I think that'd remove around half of the people left from the new poll.

 

[boncer34]

Love it Lore

 

[foj1]

Looks like we avoided a bullet with Clarke.
‘if these allegations are true then the book should be thrown at hawthorn for bringing the game into disrepute.
‘I would expect very similar draft penalties to what the bombers received and Clarkson, fagan and burt face similar punishment to hird and other bomber officials.
the story sickens me much more than pep tides

 

[Here_we_come]

Looks like we avoided a bullet with Clarke.
‘if these allegations are true then the book should be thrown at hawthorn for bringing the game into disrepute.
‘I would expect very similar draft penalties to what the bombers received and Clarkson, Taganrog and burt face similar punishment to hird and other bomber officials.
the story sickens me much more than pep tides

Curious, where/who are those quotes from?

 

[foj1]

Curious, where/who are those quotes from?

Read abc news report
players are and should remain anonymous unless they choose otherwise

 

[doug85]

Looks like we avoided a bullet with Clarke.
‘if these allegations are true then the book should be thrown at hawthorn for bringing the game into disrepute.
‘I would expect very similar draft penalties to what the bombers received and Clarkson, fagan and burt face similar punishment to hird and other bomber officials.
the story sickens me much more than pep tides

Yep, I’m legitimately disgusted. It’s not even a ‘**** Hawthorne’ thing either. I hope those responsible are never allowed near a football club again. IDGAF about draft sanctions etc

 

[Lads2023]

If true, thank * we didn't get Clarko!


Come on Brad, apply !

I am hoping Geelong win the premiership on the weekend.

Maybe seeing his twin brother holding up a premiership cup will push him to want to coach again....

 

[Here_we_come]

Read abc news report
players are and should remain anonymous unless they choose otherwise

I see, I didn't realise they were from players. Didn't remember seeing them in the abc report. But interesting.

 

[andleanback]

Looks like we avoided a bullet with Clarke.
‘if these allegations are true then the book should be thrown at hawthorn for bringing the game into disrepute.
‘I would expect very similar draft penalties to what the bombers received and Clarkson, fagan and burt face similar punishment to hird and other bomber officials.
the story sickens me much more than pep tides

Imagine how hard Caro would be going if he was currently our coach

 

[Howard Moon]

Imagine how hard Caro would be going if he was currently our coach

im sure shes going hard regardless - as she should

 

[DonsRule]

im sure shes going hard regardless - as she should

She sounded strong enough on a 3AW article that this can't be buried so, can see her chasing it.

 

[Here_we_come]

If true, it really is one of the most appalling examples of coercion and abuse of power you will ever read about. Absolutely shocking behavior that presumably has destroyed lives.

 

[andleanback]

If true, it really is one of the most appalling examples of coercion and abuse of power you will ever read about. Absolutely shocking behavior that presumably has destroyed lives.

I want it to be dug further though and see if this was/is a pattern of behavior with just young indigenous players or young players in general. The ramifications for this investigation are huge.

For example I know for a fact some player managers tell draftees moving interstate to break up with their current partner so it’s easier for their career.

 

[Here_we_come]

I want it to be dug further though and see if this was/is a pattern of behavior with just young indigenous players or young players in general. The ramifications for this investigation are huge.

For example I know for a fact some player managers tell draftees moving interstate to break up with their current partner so it’s easier for their career.

Yeah but instructing to abort an unborn child though? Whether the victim is indigenous or not, it's just unforgivable considering the power they would have held.

 

[andleanback]

Yeah but instructing to abort an unborn child though? Whether the victim is indigenous or not, it's just unforgivable considering the power they would have held.

Yeh 100% it’s unfathomable

but the indigenous part is important as it is being marked as a racism issue.

 

[foj1]

Imagine how hard Caro would be going if he was currently our coach

I think our club needs to ensure that hawthorn and the individuals involved are treated as harshly as our players and officials were otherwise we re a spineless, subservient football club who are irrelevant in 2022 and beyond.
‘I would argue that if these allegations if true then draft penalties and suspensions to officials and players would be a STARTING POINT to what the club and the individuals receive.
our punishment would set a macabre benchmark.
I cannot see how Clarkson and fagan survive this if allegations are true.
Caro does not go for the jugular tonight bomber supporters should do everything possible to end her career because I do not believe she was balanced in her reporting towards us and the individuals involved

 

[brain taylor]

I think our club needs to ensure that hawthorn and the individuals involved are treated as harshly as our players and officials were otherwise we re a spineless, subservient football club who are irrelevant in 2022 and beyond.
‘I would argue that if these allegations if true then draft penalties and suspensions to officials and players would be a STARTING POINT to what the club and the individuals receive.
our punishment would set a macabre benchmark.
I cannot see how Clarkson and fagan survive this if allegations are true.
Caro does not go for the jugular tonight bomber supporters should do everything possible to end her career because I do not believe she was balanced in her reporting towards us and the individuals involved

i would be so ****ing embarrassed if any representative of the club tried to make this situation about essendon