Coach Who should be our next coach?

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15/8 Board toppled (reportedly will pursue Clarkson)
19/8 Alastair Clarkson to join North
21/8 Ben Rutten sacked
22/8 Coach selection sub-committee to be established to find a replacement
26/8 Committee members announced: Josh Mahoney (GM-Footy, chair), Dorothy Hisgrove (Board member), Andrew Thorburn, Simone McKinnis, Robert Walls, Jordan Lewis
7/9 James Hird, Dean Solomon, Brendon Lade, Adem Yze interviewed at EY
13/9 Daniel Giansiracusa reportedly interviewed
17/9 Don Pyke “not pursuing that at this stage”
21/9 Brad Scott contacted by the club but won’t make a decision on whether to pursue the role until after the Grand Final
21/9 Adem Yze has second interview and tours the training facilities at Tullamarine
22/9 Blake Caracella will put his hat in the ring
27/9 Brendon Lade appointed as assistant coach at the Western Bulldogs, out of the running for Essendon job
28/9 Brad Scott to be interviewed on Thursday
29/9
 
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Lord Nicholson said:
the club seems to have thought for the past 20 years that what most other clubs have developed as good practice in the professional environment somehow doesn't apply to us and we can kinda just make up our own rules and wing trivialities like, say, the appointment of a senior coach. Having a sook because we're being hoist by our own petard finally is fine and all I guess but I'm not sure which timeline we're supposed to be living in where the brinksmanship of the last decade of the club's administration has somehow worked out because we stayed the course, based purely on the insane and deeply erroneous parallels that the club's leadership was drawing with Richmond and Collingwood.
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😂😂😂 the hubris, yes.
Lord Nicholson said:
So yeah, while the actual deployment of what they're doing is to say the least, sub-optimal, it's necessary evil and more importantly it's exactly the kind of stuff that the club has previously tried to circumvent, sidestep and paper over. These aren't classic Essington moves of deceit that have the subtelty of Starscream crossed with Eric Cartman, these are the creakings and lurchings and fumblings of a club that just maybe is finally deciding to grow up and find out how the rest of the (functioning) industry operates and finding it out the hard way.
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I think that’s the crux of the past few weeks. I can’t decide if it’s the most Essendon thing ever, or something new, but at least it’s not Essington.
homer simpson episode 10 GIF

Lord Nicholson said:
And if what we wind up with as a senior coach, for once, isn't someone that the board and executive haven't shortlisted on a serviette but actually someone that the panel sources and has actually done their dues in the industry and has accumulated diverse and storied experience, that might be a novel experience for us as well.
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They could’ve been smarter about it, and either doing it six months sooner, or six months later, but I guess this is now the best we can hope for.
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But yeah the media might be mean about us for a bit longer. I think we can weather it, personally.
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The media have never been nice about us unless it’s pre-season and they need clicks on an article about finals predictions… not sure why they’d start now
 
owen87 said:
So we need a guy who's not nice to supporters, say, someone that isn't afraid to stand on some toes? Know anyone jmoo wan ?
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yes! we need to footstomp our way back to a feared, respected powerhouse again. that’s why Lyon wasn’t a good vibe - he has dainty feet - he wears kids shoes.
 

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Milanista28 said:

Longmuir certain Dockers assistant is “absolutely” ready for head coaching opportunity

“He’s got my backing if he wishes to explore any of those options.”
www.sen.com.au www.sen.com.au
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According to Classified (who have probably rung around and put it together themselves rather than getting it from the club, so there are likely some names missing or potentially included for lols) there was five they thought were involved in a process, being Yze, Gia, Cameron, Hird and Graham

 
That’s pretty good, Cameron and Yze are great candidates. Surprised Caracella didn’t have a go(best CV in the league). Maybe he’s looking elsewhere or doesn’t want to go through what Rutten did had to.
Hird you can sort of understand, he wants to redeem Essendon and his coaching career, if he passes through all due processes and impresses then why not I guess.

We’ll pretty much take anyone at this pint, lol.
 
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Lore said:
According to Classified (who have probably rung around and put it together themselves rather than getting it from the club, so there are likely some names missing or potentially included for lols) there was five they thought were involved in a process, being Yze, Gia, Cameron, Hird and Graham

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Brad Scott not definitely out of the running according to Caro.
 
doug85 said:
Brad Scott not definitely out of the running according to Caro.
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Re the ‘sad reacts’, he had a decent record at a poorly resourced club. How come people are down on Scott? Aside from the whinging, I don’t know why he’d be an issue.
 
doug85 said:
Re the ‘sad reacts’, he had a decent record at a poorly resourced club. How come people are down on Scott? Aside from the whinging, I don’t know why he’d be an issue.
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Because he's a dumb campaigner.
 

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MiguelM said:
^^Nail on head.

Rutten's sacking was a knee jerk reaction to a couple of poor efforts in dead rubber games and a quick fix thinking they could just get Clarko.

Fell apart when Clarko rejected it.

My 2c, we should have let Rutten coach out his contract for 1 more year, right or wrong. We are not challenging for top 4 in the near future anyway, nothing to lose IMO. We could be in a worse position now.

Media loving this.

Our young players, hobbs, Perk etc. are made of the right stuff. Some of the senior group need a reality check.
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Wasn’t a knee jerk at all, it was the last straw.
 
I think it's pretty clear that what's happening at the club is something that has to happen and many supporters have been calling for for a long time (board cleanout, blood-letting of leadership, reckoning with where the club is actually at, where it wants to go and what it needs to do to get there).

My issue is that they have totally ballsed up the timing here. Whether you were a fan of Rutten or not, we either needed to:
  • sack him halfway through the year when it was clear there was something seriously wrong on-field - this would have allowed us to let him go in a dignified manner, begin an external review with sufficient time to reckon with its finding and recommendations, start a proper process to appoint the next head coach with sufficient time and potentially net Clarko, and avoid the external perceptions of a Mickey Mouse club that has no f*ing idea what it's doing, OR
  • back Rutten in and go about a process to appoint the right people to give him the support he needed (a la Richmond and Hardwick situation) - and reassess halfway through next season
Instead what we did was wait til so late in the season to act that we had no chance of getting the coach we wanted (Clarko), embarrassed ourselves and very publicly disrespected Rutten, started an external review with no time to even wait for it to be completed before we sack a bunch of people (and potentially hire replacements), crunch the time period for appointing a new coach (without any of the insights to come from an external review), and make ourselves look like such a fustercluck that seemingly no experienced coach (or likely any trade target) has any interest in coming to us.

So, here we are.
 
P Money said:
I think it's pretty clear that what's happening at the club is something that has to happen and many supporters have been calling for for a long time (board cleanout, blood-letting of leadership, reckoning with where the club is actually at, where it wants to go and what it needs to do to get there).

My issue is that they have totally ballsed up the timing here. Whether you were a fan of Rutten or not, we either needed to:
  • sack him halfway through the year when it was clear there was something seriously wrong on-field - this would have allowed us to let him go in a dignified manner, begin an external review with sufficient time to reckon with its finding and recommendations, start a proper process to appoint the next head coach with sufficient time and potentially net Clarko, and avoid the external perceptions of a Mickey Mouse club that has no f*ing idea what it's doing, OR
  • back Rutten in and go about a process to appoint the right people to give him the support he needed (a la Richmond and Hardwick situation) - and reassess halfway through next season
Instead what we did was wait til so late in the season to act that we had no chance of getting the coach we wanted (Clarko), embarrassed ourselves and very publicly disrespected Rutten, started an external review with no time to even wait for it to be completed before we sack a bunch of people (and potentially hire replacements), crunch the time period for appointing a new coach (without any of the insights to come from an external review), and make ourselves look like such a fustercluck that seemingly no experienced coach (or likely any trade target) has any interest in coming to us.

So, here we are.
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I suspect we weren't arguing too much about dumping Rutten after the Kangaroos game where we'd won by 48 and had won 5 of 8 games since the bye with the losses being 16, 10 and 4 points.

Then the next 3 games happened.
 
I feel like Yze is the only good option. If you watch that draft docco on Prime, you'd never want Leon Cameron. Hird LOL
 
Getting pretty close to a no oppo supporters tag on this thread now.
 
owen87 said:
I suspect we weren't arguing too much about dumping Rutten after the Kangaroos game where we'd won by 48 and had won 5 of 8 games since the bye with the losses being 16, 10 and 4 points.

Then the next 3 games happened.
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That's all well and good - but we had to accept that it was too late at that point. We'd missed the window and option B was the only viable way to go
 
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