Banter Who will be better in 2024? Carlton or Collingwood? Part 2

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you'll be able to say that Collingwood have won 16 out of the last 21 games against Carlton soon enough too....but what people are interested in - is the future...

hopefully, Collingwood are good enough to scrape into finals this year - and they get the chance to play Carlton at some stage - but that is starting to look like a shaky proposition at this stage...I feel sad about that
Indeed.

In the same way we're meant to be spending our 4th consecutive season in the bottom 4, experiencing Carlton like levels of mediocrity.

Remember when we were a being told that?
 
Or....

Having won 16 of our last 20 games against Carlton (with one of those losses being a dead rubber in a premiership year).
Nice stat Fadge👍. It's worth repeating. Pies have won 16 of the last 20 against the Blues. This includes the grim reaper game😂.
16 of 20!
Damn that's a domination!! In fact it's a humiliation. Especially when it's the arch rival. Must suck being a bagger fan.
 

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What would a Carlton supporter know about Grand Finals?

They're either too young to have seen them, or so old they've forgotten about them...
You'd be wrong...old enough to have seen 8 of them...2 of them live.
Remember them all vividly.
Try again champ.
 
The old we beat you X amount in the last Y times

Riveting analysis
Cherry picking....the ammo of those who have a weak argument to begin with.
Can always spot them a mile away...usually very few teeth and slightly cross-eyed.
 
Or....

Having won 16 of our last 20 games against Carlton (with one of those losses being a dead rubber in a premiership year).
Nah!

We’ve been demolishing historical patterns like this (very loose) one your suggesting.

Geelong had a similar record against us & how did that help them :).

We all know how you love the past ol Fudge - let’s face it that’s all y’all have got.
 
Nice stat Fadge👍. It's worth repeating. Pies have won 16 of the last 20 against the Blues. This includes the grim reaper game😂.
16 of 20!
Damn that's a domination!! In fact it's a humiliation. Especially when it's the arch rival. Must suck being a bagger fan.
So , that would mean if you take away those 20 games then Carlton would be front on the head to head count.
See, we can play that game too .
 

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As it is for most sides, with all players around the competition

Cats finally woke up and put Stewart in the middle

I still think Goaties best role for the team is playing as an attacking HB, he and the team have better springboard options
I'd like to see Goat spend some more time off HB too. Problem is that he's our best clearance player as well as best linking/goal scoring half forward.

McRae likes to say that the Goat plays where he's needed at the time. But when we're struggling to transition the ball past half-way like last week, he should take kick-ins. He was a big reason our transition game was so good when he was playing back there.

Also, people will start whinging again about the Goat padding his stats takin kick-ins, which would be delightful music to my ears.

Wish we owned three Goats but unfortunately we'll have to settle with one.
 
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To be fair, it is better than saying 'We're going to beat you when we play you next', which is the comment I was responding to...

At least the comment is relative to the thread title, while your analysis is based on history is indicative of the present or future

You know " 2023 Carlton won't make the 8, due to past events"

Then "2023 was an exception to the rule, Carlton won't make finals in 2024, will finish 13th then 16th"

It is entertaining though
 
Why?

We've got the equal most number of premierships and have won more home and away games AND finals games than any other team in the history of the competition.
Pies still not winning this thread though.
 
The only way to settle this debate is an avatar bet on who gets to 17 first. 1 month duration .
With their aging list they won't see a grand final for decade or more.
 

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