Banter Who will be better in 2024? Carlton or Collingwood? Part 2

[Robertio]

3 flags vs 1 in the modern AFL indicates this is not a road you want to go down.



If there was a moral premiership ladder Carlton would be 2 games on top I guess.

Is my post wrong?

 

[VinnieB]

Your opinion, not ours - was always Carlton not contending. This time last year we weren't even in the top 8. Now we are. I would say we are improving ever so slightly. Collingwood on the other hand have dropped 9 spots on the ladder. I had them finishing 4th from memory at start of the year. Can't believe I over rated them so much and am miles away from my initial prediction. I feel so embarassed

Actually you were 8th after round 21 in 2023. But, good for you.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Surely you're not saying he performed badly on Saturday night ?

He was comfortably BOG and hot fave for another Brownlow

But it's time for a new leader someone a bit more strategic

Cripps can revert to being an inspirational player like Pendles

 

[Worm4]

There is the real likelihood that the peak of this Carlton team is short of a contender.

Which is exactly what I have been saying.

Lack of depth.

Lack of speed.

Lack of quality ball users and decision makers.

Too many injury prone players on your list.

Back to the drawing board. Let's hope you get a better result next time and it takes less than 20 years...

Lack of depth - no
Lack of speed - probably missing a quicker mid
Lack of quality ball users - that's debatable
Injury prone players- well I've often said we should get rid of these type they do nothing but supply the group with negative energy in mu opinion. I'm sure a lot of Carlton people don't agree with me but hey, I'm just a follower of the club what do I know.
I actually don't think it's back to the drawing board. It's still a work in progress I reckon.
Missing the big ruckman hurts. Kids going to be a gun.

 

[VinnieB]

You don't actually know that.
Can I have the lotto numbers for Saturdays draw please whilst you are at it

Carlton, North Melbourne, Melbourne, Gold Coast all went begging to the AFL.
An esteemed group. At least Gold Coast had an excuse.

 

[Worm4]

He was comfortably BOG and hot fave for another Brownlow

But it's time for a new leader someone a bit more strategic

Cripps can revert to being an inspirational player like Pendles

Who are you anointing- weitering ? Kids got no personality .....

 

[adammania9]

Bruh

Where did i say Collingwood didn't win? I said they had no influence on who won the game after the siren had sounded.

I told you we lost, you never won it.

I'm losing brain cells here

 

[beerbandit]

You're the second Pie that didn't read the post i was responding to.

No I read it

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Where did i say Collingwood didn't win? I said they had no influence on who won the game after the siren had sounded.

You didn't notice about 20 of our players trying to distract your concussed shooter while your captain was giving celebratory high fives in the background?

 

[Arr0w]

50k posts since 2015.
Now it all makes sense.

If you've been having trouble getting a new script since the good Dr Edelston departed, I'm sure someone from your board can assist.

Met him once, good bloke

 

[adammania9]

Lack of depth - no
Lack of speed - probably missing a quicker mid
Lack of quality ball users - that's debatable
Injury prone players- well I've often said we should get rid of these type they do nothing but supply the group with negative energy in mu opinion. I'm sure a lot of Carlton people don't agree with me but hey, I'm just a follower of the club what do I know.
I actually don't think it's back to the drawing board. It's still a work in progress I reckon.
Missing the big ruckman hurts. Kids going to be a gun.

Carlton's depth is a serious myth. A lot of blokes look the goods when the stars are humming and let the role players do their thing with ease. But when the going gets tough, who stands up outside of the top 8 or so players? That is literally the purpose of good depth.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Who are you anointing- weitering ? Kids got no personality .....

Correct, there's no one, Cripps has taken all the oxygen over the years

You need to recruit a captain

 

[Robertio]

Bruh




I'm losing brain cells here

Maybe there was none there to start with.

 

[Arr0w]

You mean 3 flags since the start of the AFL competition. How many legitimate premierships have you won?

So a name change start of next year we all go back to zero?

I have a bridge going cheap

 

[adammania9]

Maybe there was none there to start with.

You want to rebut or not?

 

[Arr0w]

3 flags vs 1 in the modern AFL indicates this is not a road you want to go down.



If there was a moral premiership ladder Carlton would be 2 games on top I guess.

Another poster thinking footy changes or starts with a name change

 

[Robertio]

You didn't notice about 20 of our players trying to distract your concussed shooter while your captain was giving celebratory high fives in the background?

That's what i mean we lost it, Martin should've taken the kick.

 

[adammania9]

That's what i mean we lost it, Martin should've taken the kick.

Martin would not have had the journey. If he gave it everything he is capable of and more, % chance of it being accurate enough to be a goal were extremely slim.

Collingwood win regardless

 

[VinnieB]

So a name change start of next year we all go back to zero?

I have a bridge going cheap

You're right. Should have commenced in 1997 when you had all of West Coast, Adelaide, Fremantle, Port Adelaide and the Brisbane Lions in the AFL

 

[Robertio]

Martin would not have had the journey. If he gave it everything he is capable of and more, % chance of it being accurate enough to be a goal were extremely slim.

Collingwood win regardless

Yep, again.

 

[CarmenSandiego]

Pretty cooked that we played 15 minutes of footy and lost by 3pts.

Curnow & McKay awful - 1 goal between them, when's the last time that happened?
1 tackle between all our small fwds.
Walsh in career-worst form, looking like Tom Phillips

21

Tom Phillips

Age

28

Ht

187cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.4

5star

K

13.4

5star

HB

9.0

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.5

4star

CL

1.6

4star

D

15.1

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.3

3star

CL

0.5

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

7.0

5star

M

5.2

5star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.8

3star

but worse disposal.
McGovern injured but played on albeit hampered.
Cerra subbed off.
Cottrell does shoulder.

Essentially was only Cripps playing to his best and we almost won, we really couldn't have played any worse & the Pies fell in.

 

[Arr0w]

You're right. Should have commenced in 1997 when you had all of West Coast, Adelaide, Fremantle, Port Adelaide and the Brisbane Lions in the AFL

1987 is more accurate than 1990 as an AFL name change, same teams

But, that doesn't diminish flags won 100 years ago

 

[Worm4]

Correct, there's no one, Cripps has taken all the oxygen over the years

You need to recruit a captain

Phuc me drunk. I've heard it all now. This is what you've come up with after 6 weeks of what appears to be solitary confinement ?
Cripps is not the problem.

 

[Fadge]

Only one of us are in the 8 and it must be the Pies after you read this garbage.

Oh well done.

Your team has peaked at challenging for the top 8 after building and rebuilding for more than two decades, whilst my team is the reigning premier.

 

[Morro]

Came for a cheeky look, not disappointed.