Banter Who will be better in 2024? Carlton or Collingwood?
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So it's been established that Charlie and Harry are the 2 smartest key forwards due to knowing how to draw frees
Pies 1 and 3
Blues 3 and nada
Progressing well
Pies 1 and 3
Blues 3 and nada
Progressing well
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I'd rather pay up the $500 or whatever it is to have him perma banned
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All I did was breakdown the raw numbers to show that they were significantly inflated by two games against Darcy Moore. No where did I compare Curnow with any other key forward in the competition during that breakdown. If you find another player who has a similarly inflated average free kick count because of a single match-up then by all means I would be happy to do the comparison. Regardless, my point throughout has been raw free kick numbers are meaningless - using them to evaluate quality of umpiring/apparent bias is imo ridiculous.
I never said you were anti-Curnow. In my last post I even go and say "I assume you are not (anti-Curnow)". And if all that was said in this thread was simply Charlie and Harry have more frees than I wouldn't have responded. But you know full well that you and your fellow supporters have used it as a basis of your argument that they get more "technical frees" than others. There is no evidence whatsoever to support this point - it is completely subjective. And so you are going to generate debate from something like that.
All key forwards are held, pushed, arm chopped etc - this is true. However, there is no evidence to show that every player is EQUALLY held/chopped/pushed etc.
There are a probably hundreds of different factors that contribute to the way a defender defends a specific forward and it would vary across the competition from player to player. You cannot tell me that just because Player A has received more free kicks than Player B that is simply because the umpires pay them "more technical ones".
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Think it's time to move on from trying to educate Carlton supporters about the differential treatment Charlie receives from umpires in comparison to other forwards.
I mean, have you ever been to a Carlton game and heard the crowd reaction to umpiring decisions/non decisions?
Not only have they had the worst run with injury compared to all other teams for the past decade, they also undisputedly get the worst run from the umpires.
It's true.
I mean, have you ever been to a Carlton game and heard the crowd reaction to umpiring decisions/non decisions?
Not only have they had the worst run with injury compared to all other teams for the past decade, they also undisputedly get the worst run from the umpires.
It's true.
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You cannot be serious. Every supporter base does this across every sporting code in the world. Have you ever been to a Collingwood game before?
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Not really the same for 'every' supporter base... Pies fans haven't been in attendance for the 2nd half of any of their 4th quarters this year
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Getting very tiring, they lead us back to the past, we respond, then it's "WHATS THAT GOT TO DO WITH 2024...
"If you want to run that boring line, at least go back through the chain to find the "culprit"
In any case, 2024 is a new chapter, not a whole new book, the past is always relevant
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Copy and paste is very complicated
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I'll take em for the extra 5 flags over that period
But, that's in the past, 2024 right now
And still completely ignorant to the mistake that has been pointed out to him...
I also like how he used my template which had Flags, Grand Finals and Preliminary Finals and replaced Preliminary Finals with spoons.
It seems he honestly believes 'winning' a spoon is an achievement...
I also like how he used my template which had Flags, Grand Finals and Preliminary Finals and replaced Preliminary Finals with spoons.
It seems he honestly believes 'winning' a spoon is an achievement...
I find it quite ironic that Collingwood folk bring up free kicks for Carlton , and for the past 3 years, Collingwood have received the 2nd most free kicks. ##freekickcollingwoodperhaps
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Well a spoon is a more palatable achievement for them than finishing 2nd which they're absolutely terrified of
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Spoons aren't achievements, they reflect poor seasons
But 8 Flags to 3, that's a great story line over a lifetime
But 8 Flags to 3, that's a great story line over a lifetime
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Your coach was crying for half a year that a player deliberately trying to decapitate himself should be a free kick.
Careful, facts have no place here
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Perfect case in point.
Regardless of whether Ginnivan is wearing a Collingwood jumper or Hawthorn jumper, it would be a very interesting exercise to get some videoclips of both Charlie and Jack, explain the rules of the game to a sports loving tourist who is unfamiliar with the game, and tell them to place in order the most obvious free kicks to the least obvious.
But umpires don't umpire different players differently...
And love how smart Charlie and Harry are to position themselves to draw free kicks, it's a thing of beauty
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