Banter Who will be better in 2025, Carlton or Collingwood? Part 3

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Who will be better in 2025

  • Carlton

  • Collingwood


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You guys are taking great offence when I remind you that you have access to the 4th best kid in the upcoming draft, and have gone to great lengths to say it's such an open draft that every analyst has a different top 6.

So you either think Levi is in the top 3 (which he is, as per every person analysing the 2024 Draft), and you have access to the 4th best kid in the draft, or he's outside the top 3, meaning your pick 3 will get you the 3rd best player in the draft.

So which is it?
Ashcroft is the best player in the draft. Brisbane have lucked out, but so have we in the past. Good luck to them
 

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No it wouldn't. It would be an all time idiotic move for us to pick Smillie or Langford at pick 3 this year. We need pace and run in our midfield, not a big lumbering inside ball winner.
Pace and run? So all the qualities Nick has that all you hero’s call him a girl for? Crazy idea
 

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You're going off topic now, he's a pick 3 no matter who drafted him, read the post i replied to.
Judd cost Carlton pick 3, Josh Kennedy (who was originally pick 4), and pick 20. (But you got pick 46 back).

Maybe you can transfer your pick 3 to West Coast, so as they can draft someone and develop them for 6 years before you take them back?
 
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Judd cost Carlton pick 3, Josh Kennedy (who was originally pick 4), and pick 20. (But you got pick 46 back).

Maybe you can transfer your pick 3 to West Coast, so as they can draft someone and develop them for 6 years before you take them back?
46 turned out to be Dennis Armfield who played 145 games, not a bad effort.
 
Collingwood were poor in their flag defence.

They offloaded a couple of below average players and brought in Houston, who will improve their back six to no end. Perryman will mean that hopefully they have seen the end of Cox in the seniors. Two good upgrades.
They go all in and forgo a strong draft despite their lack of young talent under 23 (Daicos excluded)

Coach McCrae is all in next year with the likely retirements of Pendles, Sidebottom, Crisp, Elliot, WHE, Howe, Mihochek, Mitchell over the next two seasons. The end will come quickly for some on this list and the club would be hoping they could eke out one more flag before the inevitable reset.

Carlton look like they have all the pieces in play. They lose some depth but add a gun player for the future.
Support for their backline would have been good but this can be addressed through DFA. Their ability to stay on the park (addressed through new fitness and conditioning team) as well as the side playing Michael Voss football will be the key to their success here. They have a three year window to get it done with their talented group. But I do like their approach to not mortgage the future to go all in for the present.

Collingwood come into 2025 a stronger unit than last year, but their success may come from how their older players hold off their inevitable decline.

Will be fascinating to see how the two different strategies play out.
 
Collingwood were poor in their flag defence.

They offloaded a couple of below average players and brought in Houston, who will improve their back six to no end. Perryman will mean that hopefully they have seen the end of Cox in the seniors. Two good upgrades.
They go all in and forgo a strong draft despite their lack of young talent under 23 (Daicos excluded)

Coach McCrae is all in next year with the likely retirements of Pendles, Sidebottom, Crisp, Elliot, WHE, Howe, Mihochek, Mitchell over the next two seasons. The end will come quickly for some on this list and the club would be hoping they could eke out one more flag before the inevitable reset.

Carlton look like they have all the pieces in play. They lose some depth but add a gun player for the future.
Support for their backline would have been good but this can be addressed through DFA. Their ability to stay on the park (addressed through new fitness and conditioning team) as well as the side playing Michael Voss football will be the key to their success here. They have a three year window to get it done with their talented group. But I do like their approach to not mortgage the future to go all in for the present.

Collingwood come into 2025 a stronger unit than last year, but their success may come from how their older players hold off their inevitable decline.

Will be fascinating to see how the two different strategies play out.
Trying to figure out how the inclusion of Perryman means the end of Cox? Membrey perhaps?
 
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