Banter Who will be Better in 2025, Collingwood or Carlton? Part 4

[WalshistheGOAT]

You desperately want to believe that, but that doesn't make it true.

IF Bont was marginally ahead of Daicos in Home and Away (and that in itself is debatable), Daicos overtook him in finals.

In the same way Neale overtook Cripps and Daicos in the 2024 finals series, as a better player across the full season (but was behind Heeney).

Cripps was better in 2024, Bont amongst others were better in 2023.

Nicky was playing as a loose half back flanker for half the games in 2023, avoiding contact and running frightened from taggers like against the Hawks.

Gonna be a hard sell for you to convince anyone he's the best there is when he's terrified of physical contact.

 

[Arr0w]

You desperately want to believe that, but that doesn't make it true.

IF Bont was marginally ahead of Daicos in Home and Away (and that in itself is debatable), Daicos overtook him in finals.

In the same way Neale overtook Cripps and Daicos in the 2024 finals series, as a better player across the full season (but was behind Heeney).

Bont was easily the best player in 2023, actually, been the best player over the last 4 years

Sheezel is the best 18 or 19 year old the modern game has seen

 

[Corn Cobbers]

As SOTY said.... looking forward to seeing Sheezel performing as the best player in the game across a full season by the time he's 20 years and 9 months.

You're the one with going down the age argument route...

Will it be Sheezel's first season again? When does he become a "2nd year player"?

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[Arr0w]

Will it be Sheezel's first season again? When does he become a "2nd year player"?

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Do you also need to ask when to breathe?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

They'd all take Daics of course, what a weapon, stuff Bont

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What happened when Bont and Nicky went head to head last? One champion stepped up and won the game for his team while Mr Fairyfloss disappeared into the background

 

[Fadge]

Bont was easily the best player in 2023, actually, been the best player over the last 4 years

Sheezel is the best 18 or 19 year old the modern game has seen

Bont 'easily' the best player in 2023, in the same way Sheezel will 'easily' be the best player in the comp on 2025.

The lies you tell just to understate Daicos' performances.

He really has got to you...

 

[Fadge]

What happened when Bont and Nicky went head to head last? One champion stepped up and won the game for his team while Mr Fairyfloss disappeared into the background

Is that after Daicos played one of the best individual halves of football for the entire season in the first half, to single-handedly keep his team in the game.

Fortunately for the Doggies, Treloar also had a dozen or so possessions in the last quarter to close out the game, with Bont, to get the Doggies over the line.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Bont 'easily' the best player in 2023, in the same way Sheezel will 'easily' be the best player in the comp on 2025.

The lies you tell just to understate Daicos' performances.

He really has got to you...

Fudge u were literally banging on about Nicky being a better runner than Walsh 10 minutes ago... Now you're complaining about lies?

Oh the irony!

 

[Arr0w]

Bont 'easily' the best player in 2023,

I and many others see it that way

in the same way Sheezel will 'easily' be the best player in the comp on 2025.

A prediction

The lies you tell just to understate Daicos' performances.

Where have I lied, prove it

He really has got to you...

Ummm nah, I call it as I see it, whether it's a Carlton or Collingwood player, or another side

But it seems you are triggered if there is not overwhelming love for the rabbit

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Is that after Daicos played one of the best individual halves of football for the entire season in the first half, to single-handedly keep his team in the game.

Fortunately for the Doggies, Treloar also had a dozen or so possessions in the last quarter to close out the game, with Bont, to get the Doggies over the line.

Yes but what happened in the 2nd half when the game was on the line?

I'll give you a clue...

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Bont 'easily' the best player in 2023, in the same way Sheezel will 'easily' be the best player in the comp on 2025.

The lies you tell just to understate Daicos' performances.

He really has got to you...

I really hope Sheez can have a 2025 season as good as Daics in his 2nd year, at $41 for the Brownlow we should load up if he's gonna outdo Daics who was on track for the Brownlow that year before being assaulted

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[Fadge]

Yes but what happened in the 2nd half when the game was on the line?

I'll give you a clue...
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Can you add Treloar's stats as well?

Maybe give Daicos another season or two, and he'll be able to account for both Bomtempelli and Treloar, but unfortunately fell short and 'only' got the 2 votes as a 21 year old.

 

[Worm4]

Your subjective (biased) opinion.

But objectively, Daicos has absolutely performed as the best player in the game across 2023 and 2024, his 2nd and 3rd years in the game.

Lol. Biased indeed

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Yes but what happened in the 2nd half when the game was on the line?

I'll give you a clue...
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[Arr0w]

I really hope Sheez can have a 2025 season as good as Daics in his 2nd year, at $41 for the Brownlow we should load up if he's gonna outdo Daics who was on track for the Brownlow that year before being assaulted

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Now that looks familiar

 

[Fadge]

I really hope Sheez can have a 2025 season as good as Daics in his 2nd year, at $41 for the Brownlow we should load up if he's gonna outdo Daics who was on track for the Brownlow that year before being assaulted

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With North improving, I expect Sheezel will start to cop some attention from the opposition in the same way Daicos has since day one.

Will be interesting to see how he copes with it.

 

[Arr0w]

Can you add Treloar's stats as well?

Maybe give Daicos another season or two, and he'll be able to account for both Bomtempelli and Treloar, but unfortunately fell short and 'only' got the 2 votes as a 21 year old.

You're finally getting it I see

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Can you add Treloar's stats as well?

Maybe give Daicos another season or two, and he'll be able to account for both Bomtempelli and Treloar, but unfortunately fell short and 'only' got the 2 votes as a 21 year old.

Do you think he'll have learnt to stick his head over the ball in a season or two?

 

[Corn Cobbers]

With North improving, I expect Sheezel will start to cop some attention from the opposition in the same way Daicos has since day one.

Will be interesting to see how he copes with it.

Well old mate here thinks he has Daics covered so he shouldn't have any problems dominating all year and racking up 30+ votes

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[Worm4]

With North improving, I expect Sheezel will start to cop some attention from the opposition in the same way Daicos has since day one.

Will be interesting to see how he copes with it.

Wonder if Cripps will ever get the same attention..17 x best on grounds over the past 2 seasons. Give me a player who has got more than that. I'll wait GO

 

[Arr0w]

Well old mate here thinks he has Daics covered so he shouldn't have any problems dominating all year and racking up 30+ votes

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2022 Rabbit
11 & 30

2024 Sheezel
15 & 40

1 less game

1 in a bottom side, 1 in a top 4 side

 

[Worm4]

Unless Fadge does the player ratings for the herald Sun for season 2025, will be interesting to see who they have as the number 1 player in the game

 

[Fadge]

Wonder if Cripps will ever get the same attention..17 x best on grounds over the past 2 seasons. Give me a player who has got more than that. I'll wait GO

If it was in fact 17 legitimate best on grounds, one would have thought he'd have also picked up an MVP or a Coaches Award in that time.

But he hasn't.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

2022 Rabbit
11 & 30

2024 Sheezel
15 & 40

1 less game

Oh I'm totally convinced and can't wait to see Sheez have this epic season next year to match 2023 "" (or is it still 2022...?)

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[WalshistheGOAT]

If it was in fact 17 legitimate best on grounds, one would have thought he'd have also picked up an MVP or a Coaches Award in that time.

But he hasn't.

Farcical Fly made sure he didn't win the coaches award unfortunately.