Expansion Why AFL fails miserably in Queensland

[Rob]

You are contradicting yourself. You say to me I'm making predictions about the future yet you write 'if he can get them back on the rails'. And you're blaming McKenna for the Suns below par season are you serious!

It's obviously dependent on them winning a few now and then. Very very few sporting clubs in Australia could sustain a decade plus streak of getting belted year after year.
And yes, of course I blame McKenna for the playing group disintegrating. You think he left and then suddenly they all started to hit the nightclubs and get on the gear?

 

[Smashwood]

It's obviously dependent on them winning a few now and then. Very very few sporting clubs in Australia could sustain a decade plus streak of getting belted year after year.
And yes, of course I blame McKenna for the playing group disintegrating. You think he left and then suddenly they all started to hit the nightclubs and get on the gear?

I agree McKenna is accountable for the players and the drug culture to an extent. But you can't just blame one person for that situation. Plenty of 'gear' at plenty of clubs. Suns had their best season last year, so other than Gaz being injured, why have they gone backwards under Eade? Are you saying McKenna was dumped for the drug scene that crept in because I can't think why else you'd sack a coach that has improved each year?

From memory won 10 games in McKenna's last season to being fairy ordinary. Will lose Dixon, Bennell and Smith in 2016 so I'm highly suggesting another lean year.

 

[Rob]

I agree McKenna is accountable for the players and the drug culture to an extent. But you can't just blame one person for that situation. Plenty of 'gear' at plenty of clubs. Suns had their best season last year, so other than Gaz being injured, why have they gone backwards under Eade? Are you saying McKenna was dumped for the drug scene that crept in because I can't think why else you'd sack a coach that has improved each year?

From memory won 10 games in McKenna's last season to being fairy ordinary. Will lose Dixon, Bennell and Smith in 2016 so I'm highly suggesting another lean year.

I don't know exactly why McKenna was dumped - you'd have to ask the people that dumped him. And I agree that he most certainly isn't the only one to blame - a bloke called Hunt is up there on that list. Players are adults themselves you know. But he's ultimately accountable for what's gone on, and i'm guessing Eade has tried to kill the party and certain players haven't appreciated it.
I think they are probably the most interesting team in the league in 2016, they could finish anywhere from 4th to 16th. Dixon and Smith won't be huge losses. Bennell is a big loss talent wise, but you don't sack a player with his ability unless there are some serious problems. Getting rid of those will probably have a positive effect on the playing group.

 

[Smashwood]

I don't know exactly why McKenna was dumped - you'd have to ask the people that dumped him. And I agree that he most certainly isn't the only one to blame - a bloke called Hunt is up there on that list. Players are adults themselves you know. But he's ultimately accountable for what's gone on, and i'm guessing Eade has tried to kill the party and certain players haven't appreciated it.
I think they are probably the most interesting team in the league in 2016, they could finish anywhere from 4th to 16th. Dixon and Smith won't be huge losses. Bennell is a big loss talent wise, but you don't sack a player with his ability unless there are some serious problems. Getting rid of those will probably have a positive effect on the playing group.

I think any senior players leaving the Suns will leave holes and I'm not to sure the Suns will be on the right end of the three trades mentioned. I too believe the coach is accountable but would like to know why he was sacked. If the reasoning was he couldn't control the players party habits then ok. But it couldn't have been for lack of success.

You're ultra generous thinking Suns could finish as high as 4th with that list. If Suns finish 8th I'd go to their first final, run around naked with a carrot up my arse until security caught me. I'd give anyone 15/1 they won't finish 8th.

 

[Sausages]

I have painted a bleak picture at times of footy in Queensland. I have spent some weeks driving and riding about Gympie/surrounds and Brisbane - specifically looking at public parks/spaces.

Can I say, that travelling in and around Gympie, in the 6 months that I have lived on the Fraser Coast, it has more footy representation than the SOUTHERN Brisbane suburbs.

Footy representation is also prevalent in pockets of the median/inner city fringe of Northern Brizzo too.

I'm pondering the why of the poor southern expansion from Brisbane - I'm looking firstly at the population explosion that occurred that I can recall in the corridor to the South....the West, out to Ipswich (old Pauline Hanson territory) is as yet untravelled in this aspect for myself personally. So I will refrain from commentary.

By footy representation I mean ONE thing only - goal posts in public spaces. And, frankly - I reckon the whole Auskick angle, whilst good, is falling well short of the return of some goal posts in parks.

And, with all the clout (perceived, financial or otherwise) of the AFL, I'd just like to postulate:

Where there IS available public space, what can your organisation do to facilitate somewhere to kick sherrins for kids and adults insofar as liaison with local government/councils?

 

[Moo]

Dammit - I thought this was going to be about Bootsma apologising and seeking a 2nd chance with Freo.

 

[The_Wookie]

Is this a signof failure?

 

[Coathanger]

Dammit - I thought this was going to be about Bootsma apologising and seeking a 2nd chance with Freo.

I'll pay that one

 

[AG]

Who is this sausage from Gympie?

 

[Magma]

i forgive you sausages

 

[nickrebellious]

hehe, Gympie

 

[Experimental]

Is this a signof failure?

Oh god, this will set off the haters.

 

[Colonial]

Oh god, this will set off the haters.

Its a conspiracy


Only sport i know that its own fans actually deathrides its own growth

 

[telsor]

Oh god, this will set off the haters.

All I want to know is at what stage do you stop getting the academy to counteract the 'go home' factor?

Indeed, when do you start to get penalised for the go home factor going your way?

 

[Colonial]

All I want to know is at what stage do you stop getting the academy to counteract the 'go home' factor?

Indeed, when do you start to get penalised for the go home factor going your way?

When it actually does?

Whats the ratio of home grown players across the comp. Then compare that to the northern clubs.

 

[Vapor]

I thought this was going to be an apology on behalf of Nick Dal Santo

 

[Purple Maverick]

Having recently moved to QLD from Perth, I am actually impressed with the level of AFL infrastructure and support over most of the state. Brisbane city itself offers a lot more than Perth and doesn't have the hussle and bussle of Melbourne and Sydney, and players can still be fairly anonymous. The flights for away games in Melbourne and Sydney are short. If Gold Coast and Brisbane football clubs could get their operations even half adequate then QLD wld be an incredible attractive place to play AFL. I live in an area that houses numerous AFL identities and they have a bloody good home life up here, walking with their families and pets, eating in cafes and local restaurants, supermarket shopping etc and they are left in peice.

 

[The_Wookie]

Oh god, this will set off the haters.

pretty much anything i post these days has haters.

 

[PunkyHawkster]

I thought this was going to be an apology on behalf of Nick Dal Santo

Would be titled 'A Cheerio Apology'

 

[SizeMatters]

You didn't apologise.

 

[telsor]

When it actually does?

Whats the ratio of home grown players across the comp. Then compare that to the northern clubs.

If they set it up for that reason, why not have the numbers set out? A weighted average and if a club is more than 20% from average then measures apply...they can even be more subtle and phase things in (discount for academy players gets less as they get closer?), but no...it'll be at the 'discretion of the commission'...AKA, helping the northern clubs get artificial success until it gets so on the nose that they have to stop that and find another way.

 

[Colonial]

If they set it up for that reason, why not have the numbers set out? A weighted average and if a club is more than 20% from average then measures apply...they can even be more subtle and phase things in (discount for academy players gets less as they get closer?), but no...it'll be at the 'discretion of the commission'...AKA, helping the northern clubs get artificial success until it gets so on the nose that they have to stop that and find another way.

Your club us based in heartland. Whats your problem. Almost your entire squad is victorian.


Fmd.

 

[Spook]

You didn't apologise.

In a way he is because he is contradicting a previous thread he started..... Go back and have a read.

Actually sausages, can you provide a link please.

 

[SSSSSS]

I thought this was going to be an apology on behalf of Nick Dal Santo

A chipolata apology.

 

[Cudi_420]

Having recently moved to QLD from Perth, I am actually impressed with the level of AFL infrastructure and support over most of the state. Brisbane city itself offers a lot more than Perth and doesn't have the hussle and bussle of Melbourne and Sydney, and players can still be fairly anonymous. The flights for away games in Melbourne and Sydney are short. If Gold Coast and Brisbane football clubs could get their operations even half adequate then QLD wld be an incredible attractive place to play AFL. I live in an area that houses numerous AFL identities and they have a bloody good home life up here, walking with their families and pets, eating in cafes and local restaurants, supermarket shopping etc and they are left in peice.

This isn't Hollywood down here. I've lived in St Kilda, South Yarra, Carlton and now East Melbourne and have always lived among some of the game's current greats. People see them and double-look, but rarely are they bothered. I had breakfast next to Chris Judd and someone I assume was from Carlton about 8 months ago. No one bothered them. There's no paparazzi here. There's more coverage related to their *football* lives, but not their personal lives.

Unless they're involved with bikies and/or drugs.