Society/Culture Why Australia needs to lower its immigration intake

[Gethelred]

This thread is about a lot of things, but one of the things it is not about is crime.

The next person who seeks to make a connection between violent crime and immigration by posting about it in here will receive a threadban and an infraction equivalent to the racism it portrays.

Should you want to talk about violent crime, the 'African gangs' thread is both thataway:

Vic - Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

The Victorian government and police management have finally been shamed into admitting there's a problems with African gangs. On 20th December, after eight police were overpowered by a gang of 100 mainly South Sudanese youths who trashed a Werribee Airbnb-rented property, smashing car...

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Let's stay on topic from here.

 

[Dan Moody]

Sounds terrible, and they should face consequences of course, but not unique to Muslims.

not unique, but common

 

[Chief]

not unique, but common

Yeah yeah. Of course it is.

But when it's a prominent woman complaining about this stuff in the workplace, the usual lads trot out all of the nit picking and excuses.

The woman is not believed. The lads bring up times they were "unfairly" accused of being sexist. All the usual stuff.

Look back over this board for posts around the Chris Gayle incident, Brittany Higgins, anything of that nature.

 

[10571z]

So what's the reason, if it isn't genetic?

Culture, Socioeconomic factors etc

 

[smish]

Another reason to drastically lower immigration

Muslim men accused of harassing female water park staff

An Islamic 'brothers only' day out at a popular water park is being investigated amid claims female staff members were subjected to vile slurs and harassment.

www.dailymail.co.uk

But it's a peaceful and inclusive religion though

 

[Chief]

But it's a peaceful and inclusive religion though

Yeah mate. Your colours are flying.

We see you.

 

[smish]

Yeah mate. Your colours are flying.

We see you.

Huh?

 

[Chief]

Huh?

Read what you posted again and you will understand.

 

[smish]

Read what you posted again and you will understand.

Are we doing this again are we Chief?

 

[Chief]

Are we doing this again are we Chief?

I dunno. I took your post as the standard glib anti-Muslim comment.

If not, apologies.

 

[10571z]

I dunno. I took your post as the standard glib anti-Muslim comment.

If not, apologies.

Are you surprised that many westerners aren’t huge fans of Islam? Western and Islam culture are a long way apart.

 

[Chief]

Are you surprised that many westerners aren’t huge fans of Islam? Western and Islam culture are a long way apart.

I'm not a fan of many aspects of Islam.

That doesn't mean I judge all Muslims as responsible for the actions of one person.

I'm not a fan of many aspects of Christianity.

That doesn't mean I judge all Christians as responsible for the actions of one person.

And so on.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Another reason to drastically lower immigration

Muslim men accused of harassing female water park staff

An Islamic 'brothers only' day out at a popular water park is being investigated amid claims female staff members were subjected to vile slurs and harassment.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Ummm, these are not immigrants.

This is 'Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jam'ah Association of Australia'

Willing to bet every last one of them is an Australian citizen.

So how is this article another reason for drastically lowering immigration?

 

[Carringbush2010]

We seem to be getting off topic about immigration.

Seems now we're going down the path of 'Aussies of not aussie' background.

If so, can we now link articles of every pos that is not ATSI, and claim they should not be citizens? Coz y'know not 'aussie background'

 

[barreness]

Are you surprised that many westerners aren’t huge fans of Islam?

No, they've been baited into othering them, this has been proven to be pretty easy over history, most people have a strong in-group/out-group mentality that can be easily riled up for political gain

Western and Islam culture are a long way apart.

What is western culture? You will say it's some imaginary through line from Greek democracies through the Roman Empire to secular liberal western European countries, add a taste of free speech USA. Doubt you'll touch on Communism/fascism or the genocides, (some like the crusades if you go deep on the clash of culture stuff), it's selective.

What is Islam(ic) culture? You'll say it's the child sex, anti lgbt, women oppression without a hint of irony. Is it shia or sunni? Capitalist Jakarta or the slave markets in Tripoli? Osama Bin Laden or the Pakistani bloke that sneaks a beer after cricket. Very selective right

 

[peetoo]

Ummm, these are not immigrants.

This is 'Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jam'ah Association of Australia'

Willing to bet every last one of them is an Australian citizen.

So how is this article another reason for drastically lowering immigration?

I reckon a good portion of phon voters are pre 1986 uk migrants who don’t become citizens on principle, but think they should get a sayin citizenship etc

 

[CM86]

Culture, Socioeconomic factors etc

OK.

So why did you single them out by race, rather than cultural or socioeconomic factors?

 

[10571z]

OK.

So why did you single them out by race, rather than cultural or socioeconomic factors?

Why did I mention someones race in a discussion about immigration? Because it’s relevant.

 

[CM86]

Why did I mention someone race in a discussion about immigration? Because it’s relevant.

But you said it's nothing to do with their race.

That it's socioeconomics.

No it’s not genetic. Come on.

So are their genetics relevant or not??

 

[Dan Moody]

Yeah mate. Your colours are flying.

We see you.

lol, another one who probably believes "where's the jews?"
seems to be the same demographic/religion/culture that is at the heart of a significant amount of behavioural issues

 

[Chief]

lol, another one who probably believes "where's the jews?"
seems to be the same demographic/religion/culture that is at the heart of a significant amount of behavioural issues

OK. Seeya.

 

[10571z]

But you said it's nothing to do with their race.

That it's socioeconomics.



So are their genetics relevant or not??

holy balls? Do I really need to explain this.

Do you understand what “genetics” are.

If you are Sudanese you are from one of the poorest countries on earth. Nearly half their population live in poverty. Their GDP is extremely low. That’s not “genetics”. The likelihood their socioeconomic background is a factor is high.

 

[CM86]

holy balls? Do I really need to explain this.

Do you understand what “genetics” are.

If you are Sudanese you are from one of the poorest countries on earth. Nearly half their population live in poverty. Their GDP is extremely low. That’s not “genetics”. The likelihood their socioeconomic background is a factor is high.

You were talking about Australians. Specifically Victorians.

Why would someone born in Victoria, with Sudanese parents be impacted by the socioeconomics of Sudan?
Unless you feel there is some form of hereditary impact?

 

[10571z]

You were talking about Australians. Specifically Victorians.

Why would someone born in Victoria, with Sudanese parents be impacted by the socioeconomics of Sudan?
Unless you feel there is some form of hereditary impact?

Do you honestly need someone to answer that?

 

[CM86]

Do you honestly need someone to answer that?

You were talking about Australians. Specifically Victorians.

Why would someone born in Victoria, with Sudanese parents be impacted by the socioeconomics of Sudan?
Unless you feel there is some form of hereditary impact?

Only if you can.
But I don't think you can.

 

[10571z]

Only if you can.
But I don't think you can.

When Mum and Dad live in poverty in Sudan and come to Australia you don’t think that affects their newly born child?