Society/Culture Why do less intelligent people gravitate to conservative/right wing ideology.

[Mofra]

The Daily Mail article reports upon a study by Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario, Canada. (another Canadian Academic Psychologist but without a youtube presence). He looked at data from 2 UK studies testing child development. The subjects were
(a) 4,267 boys and 4,537 girls born in 1958;
(b) 3,412 boys and 3,658 girls born in 1970.

The tests were of
(c) verbal and non verbal intelligence; and
(d) cognitive abilities (number recall, shape-drawing tasks, defining words and identifying patterns and similarities among words).

In both surveys, 23 years later, the same groups were asked to answer a series of questions about traditions, authority and attitudes toward other races. Hodson then postulated a definition of conservatism which is undefined but looks to be based upon attitudes towards Authority and other races and concluded that low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservtive ideologies.

I’d very cautious about accepting the conclusions drawn by Grin and his gaggle of applauders from the article helpfully posted by Mofra

So would I.

Here's a meta-analysis that's far more wide ranging.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/55893129.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiZksKNiq38AhWmwjgGHVyFAdQQFnoECC0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2xHhvNmp4MW8yHxMsywA_c

There is a significant body of work on the subject. Assuming the entire concept is based off a single study is folly.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Thank you. I can't argue against that sound logic.

It must be a non-core promise then.

So what are you going to buy with your $4500 tax cut?

 

[evolved2]

So what are you going to buy with your $4500 tax cut?

A Palestinian flag; hopefully it's made in Palestine. What about you?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

A Palestinian flag; hopefully it's made in Palestine. What about you?

Dunno man, I just buy whatever I want already.

 

[evolved2]

Dunno man, I just buy whatever I want already.

White privilege.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

White privilege.

You probably earn more than me. I'm just more efficient.

 

[evolved2]

You probably earn more than me. I'm just more efficient.

Are you a prius? Foreign women are expensive.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Are you a prius? Foreign women are expensive.

No.

 

[evolved2]

No.

Good.

 

[Carringbush2010]

I have ideas for my next incarnation beyond evolved3. Let's see how things evolve.

'They say you wanna an evolution well you know..............'

'Don't y'know it's gonna be alright.........'

 

[ElectricG]

Am I right fellas

 

[bzparkes]

'less intelligent' people don't gravitate toward conservative ideology, they gravitate towards 'extreme' ideology.

Plenty of moronic people on the far-left as well as the far-right, because they're easier to manipulate.

That's all there is to it.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Am I right fellas

Well you are a conservative, which is right wing ideology.

 

[ElectricG]

Well you are a conservative, which is right wing ideology.

Am not

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

'less intelligent' people don't gravitate toward conservative ideology, they gravitate towards 'extreme' ideology.

Plenty of moronic people on the far-left as well as the far-right, because they're easier to manipulate.

That's all there is to it.

Nah, conservative ideology is less taxing on the brain. You don't have to care about anyone else. It's why so many people go conservative as they age - the circle of care shrinks. They give less sh*ts about society outside the immediate family.

 

[bzparkes]

Nah, conservative ideology is less taxing on the brain. You don't have to care about anyone else. It's why so many people go conservative as they age - the circle of care shrinks. They give less sh*ts about society outside the immediate family.

Extreme left doesn't care about anyone else either, they're no different than the extreme right, they just look to push the interests of a different group of people.

 

[ElectricG]

Nah, conservative ideology is less taxing on the brain. You don't have to care about anyone else. It's why so many people go conservative as they age - the circle of care shrinks. They give less sh*ts about society outside the immediate family.

I reckon you can adopt either ideology without expending much brain power at all.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Extreme left doesn't care about anyone else either, they're no different than the extreme right, they just look to push the interests of a different group of people.

Extreme left care about inclusion though - they still want EVERYONE to be included in society. To care about others, it takes brain power. It takes effort.

Some strains of conservative - the social rather than the fiscal here - are all about exclusions. There are less sections of society that they care about.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

I reckon you can adopt either ideology without expending much brain power at all.

It takes effort to care. No effort to not care.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Extreme left care about inclusion though - they still want EVERYONE to be included in society. To care about others, it takes brain power. It takes effort.

Some strains of conservative - the social rather than the fiscal here - are all about exclusions. There are less sections of society that they care about.

Fair enough you disagree with this ElectricG. How do you see things?

 

[bzparkes]

Extreme left care about inclusion though - they still want EVERYONE to be included in society. To care about others, it takes brain power. It takes effort.

No, they don't.

If they did, they wouldn't push to cancel opposing opinions. They're simply not interested in what others have to say.

Extremists don't care about other people, it's simply a front they put up to push their agenda.

It requires critical thinking to actually try to understand another's viewpoint. Extremists in both sides of the political spectrum are incapable of this.

Some strains of conservative - the social rather than the fiscal here - are all about exclusions. There are less sections of society that they care about.

If the far left really care so much about 'inclusion', why are they suddenly introducing segregation and discrimination in the forms of 'safe spaces' for PoC and employment/education quotas that discriminate against Asians and whites?

Obviously this is mostly prevalent in USA but if they want to preach 'inclusion', that means everyone.

You don't get to discriminate against the 'boring old white men' if you're serious about inclusion and diversity.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

No, they don't.

If they did, they wouldn't push to cancel opposing opinions. They're simply not interested in what others have to say.

Extremists don't care about other people, it's simply a front they put up to push their agenda.

It requires critical thinking to actually try to understand another's viewpoint. Extremists in both sides of the political spectrum are incapable of this.



If the far left really care so much about 'inclusion', why are they suddenly introducing segregation and discrimination in the forms of 'safe spaces' for PoC and employment/education quotas that discriminate against Asians and whites?

Obviously this is mostly prevalent in USA but if they want to preach 'inclusion', that means everyone.

You don't get to discriminate against the 'boring old white men' if you're serious about inclusion and diversity.

Famous conservative Peter Dutton tried to cancel Woolworths a few weeks ago.

But the left! Look over there!

 

[bzparkes]

Famous conservative Peter Dutton tried to cancel Woolworths a few weeks ago.

Yes, that's what extreme sides do.

They try to silence the opposition.

Left and right both do it, because they don't care about the opinions of others, only enforcing their own.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Yes, that's what extreme sides do.

They try to silence the opposition.

Left and right both do it, because they don't care about the opinions of others, only enforcing their own.

Right wingers are trying to cancel Palestine at the moment.

I think that's a more pressing concern than climate activists.

Do you agree?

 

[bzparkes]

Right wingers are trying to cancel Palestine at the moment.

I think that's a more pressing concern than climate activists.

Do you agree?

I think you've completely missed the point and gone off an irrelevant tangent actually.

I'm talking about extremists on both sides, mostly in relation to social interactions with nobodies on the internet.

Not sure what 'cancelling' Palestine or climate activists have to do with it.

Those are broader political issues.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

No, they don't.

If they did, they wouldn't push to cancel opposing opinions. They're simply not interested in what others have to say.

Extremists don't care about other people, it's simply a front they put up to push their agenda.

It requires critical thinking to actually try to understand another's viewpoint. Extremists in both sides of the political spectrum are incapable of this.

Yeah, there's a lot of this on both sides. People HAVE gotten so much more opinionated, and it does seem to be one-way traffic with them. I agree with you to a point here and I ask how anyone can form a viewpoint without at least considering the other side and its viewpoint?

I know I myself have been quite dismissive of the conservative viewpoint but I do consider what is being said from the 'other side'. I think there definitely should be more consideration and less dogmatic deafness in political debate for sure

If the far left really care so much about 'inclusion', why are they suddenly introducing segregation and discrimination in the forms of 'safe spaces' for PoC and employment/education quotas that discriminate against Asians and whites?

Obviously this is mostly prevalent in USA but if they want to preach 'inclusion', that means everyone.

You don't get to discriminate against the 'boring old white men' if you're serious about inclusion and diversity.

You'll get no argument from me. Everyone should mean exactly that. EVERYONE. I get the viewpoint that, as a ruling class, the 'boring old white men' have had their day and others need their time in the sun too, but exclusionary blowback is a dangerous thing too.

There should be no 'revenge' here. No persecution of 'old white men' just because their type has been the upper crust for so long. Just a quiet equalisation.