And a ****teenth away from winning it in the first GF - so tired of this bloody Milne bounce sh1t.
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Why do people think the Pies are so far ahead?
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Only by Hawthorn supporters & opposition supporters who cannot cope with the reality that Collingwood were the dominant side of 2010 (as opposed to Hawthorn in 08') by quite a margain owing to a superior gameplan & group of the most talented youngsters in the AFL.
How?
Were you going to kick 4 points in a row?
Anyway, empires are not built on gameplans, they are built on a genuinely superstar laden squad.
Anyone would've wanted Geelong's squad in 2007, they were the next huge thing, yet they lost the very next year, then obviously came back in 09. But they were touted as challengers to Brisbane's reign before they'd even hit back to back!
While Collingwood were impressive this year, as much as their fans won't admit it, they are not as superstar full as Geelong 2007, and if you can't replace a gameplan, with a list of players that make you go "F**k me he is a freak". Collingwood are a team based around a great gameplan that worked, but will be picked apart. St Kilda were picked apart after a great 09 season, Hawthorn were picked apart after being Premiers, and Collingwood's gameplan like many good ones gone before, will be analysed to death and crumbled.
Oh and people are also forgetting about the new interchange rules. They lose out on that rule big time.
A minute longer in 2007 and the Pies would have beaten the all conquering Cats. They went on to smash Port.
lol... I can't disagree with you but let's be fair... being ahead of Carlton is hardly a recommendation!
Sorry but how on gods earth is any collingwood supporter supposed to miss an opportunity like that?
Well back in the 80's Carlton was ahead of your team, but through shrewd marketing etc, your team is way ahead of the Blues now. Just stating a fact.
The clash guernsey is a big issue for me and will impact my level of support.
If Carlton don't wear "clash" jumpers against St Kilda, Melbourne, Adelaide etc..all the better.
I admire Collingwood's stance on their guernsey, their humble attitude after winning the GF-etc in fact there is a lot to admire about Collingwood these days.
vaughnie
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Pies were the best side in the h&a season and in the finals whereas the Hawks were the best side only in the finals. But don't forget that you finished top by just 1/2 game and had an inferior percentage to Geelong. Then it took two goes to win the gf. Hawks in 08 won only 1/2 game less the Pies this year and were equally, if not more impressive in the finals.
In the last 7 weeks of the h/a season and first 2 finals this year Pies won 8 of 9 by an average of 46 points. In 2008 Hawks won 8 of 9 by an average on 63.
Don't get too carried away. You were good but not as good as you might think.
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LOL.
Sounds like a lot of people making shit up to make themselves feel better about their lot.
Collingwood did what every oppo troll has been guarnateeing they could not for years.
Only a disastrous injury toll or mental lapse on the part of the entire list will see the Pies out of the 4 next year. That's all you can aim for when we have not even completed the 2010 post season.
Hawks were good enough to win a GF. All credit too them but Collingwood are so different a side, personnel wise that comparison of the next years performance are pointless and worthless.
The dwarf reckoned that a lot of sides were glad to see them out of the finals, personally I thought they were lucky to make the 8 and they managed to scare no-one.
Sounds like a lot of people making shit up to make themselves feel better about their lot.
Collingwood did what every oppo troll has been guarnateeing they could not for years.
Only a disastrous injury toll or mental lapse on the part of the entire list will see the Pies out of the 4 next year. That's all you can aim for when we have not even completed the 2010 post season.
Hawks were good enough to win a GF. All credit too them but Collingwood are so different a side, personnel wise that comparison of the next years performance are pointless and worthless.
The dwarf reckoned that a lot of sides were glad to see them out of the finals, personally I thought they were lucky to make the 8 and they managed to scare no-one.
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It was shown in GF1 when StKildas ruckmen beat Jolly that Collingwoods mid field in Swan Ball and Pendlebry couldnt get hold of there own pill. Anything happens to Jolly Collingwood will become very vunerable. They have no ruck depth to speak of.
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Totally agree,then we lost the one we should have won,and won the won we should have lost.It's how the cards fall and they fell for the PIE'S this year,Cats and Saints playing each other in the first final was massive boost to your chances,and you took advantage ,congratulations see ya next year.
For the zillionth time if the ball handn't bounced away from Johnno Milne wouldn't have touched the ball.
As for the margin it's just as plausible as the Milne b@ullshit, if you can create a fantasy about the Milne effort then its open season.
I've never said anything about superstars or dynasties.
As for the interchange rules check on the FACTS - pies had a number of games this year with injured players effectively reducing the bench to three and there was no noticeable effect, what you're proposing is a WISH. Good luck with that.
As for the gameplan that's a given, just as it's a given that the pies will tinker and modify the gameplan knowing full well that it will be analyzed. Therefore the battle of tactics goes on as usual.
It really is not sensible using Geelong as a yardstick as they have been the most amazing collection of star players seen for many a year.
And superstars do NOT win GF's TEAMS win them just ask Gary Abblett Snr.
Only on BF would you read that because he's only 23 he's going to improve.
2005 goals per game average: 1.1
2006 goals per game average: 2.2
2007 goals per game average: 3.3
2008 goals per game average: 4.5
2009 goals per game average: 3.2
2010 goals per game average: 3.6
One could easily conclude Lance "Buddy" Franklin was at his most dominant in 2008 thus it is the period when he was at his peak.
Possessions mean very little in modern football.
Saying he has peaked does not equate to me saying he's shit. No need to be defensive. Just be happy your club has a "Franklin".
I watched them play all year and have been racking my brains on how to beat the game plan. The full ground press is an impressive piece of kit.
You have to have precision kicking at speed. The handball game is obsolete against it. Must be kick, mark, kick, mark, all the way up the ground to within set shot distance.
The only other way is to go very long, very quickly. But this is fraught with danger. If the Pies get it they destroy you with numbers going the other way.
It took the coaching staff and players 2 years to learn, implement and own it. They mastered it in the third year; hence the flag.
You have to have precision kicking at speed. The handball game is obsolete against it. Must be kick, mark, kick, mark, all the way up the ground to within set shot distance.
The only other way is to go very long, very quickly. But this is fraught with danger. If the Pies get it they destroy you with numbers going the other way.
It took the coaching staff and players 2 years to learn, implement and own it. They mastered it in the third year; hence the flag.
Same thing happens every year. The reigning premier always looks unbeatable in November. And every year when people point this fact out, the response is always along the lines of "this time its different".
Collingwood will not be unbeatable next year. They will have their ups and downs just like any other club.
Collingwood will not be unbeatable next year. They will have their ups and downs just like any other club.
And all the shit teams have hope... thank God for November!!! Hahaha
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If you compare the relative difficulty our draw compared to Geelong's, the gap of 1/2 games was rather misleading.
HyperAgressiveDonk
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He was playing in the forward 50 more and had better delievry in 2008. I think his best form so far has been 2010 and if he had been left in the 50 and had decent delivery he would have kicked similair to what he did in 08.
Beckstar
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How can anyone give St Kilda credit for the first Grand Final?
It was blindingly obvious that if Collingwood kicked straight the Saints would've been humiliated in the first Grand Final. Collingwood didn't kick straight, but that is their own doing and nothing to do with the Saints, they just got lucky and took advantage of it.
The second Grand Final was a more accurate representation of where both sides are at.
It was blindingly obvious that if Collingwood kicked straight the Saints would've been humiliated in the first Grand Final. Collingwood didn't kick straight, but that is their own doing and nothing to do with the Saints, they just got lucky and took advantage of it.
The second Grand Final was a more accurate representation of where both sides are at.
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Working on the Pies game-plan is only one, albeit an important part of the picture.
This is another part. The rigours of training and one of the best and most thoroughgoing conditioning coaches, not to mention hyperbaric chambers / Arizona (compacting training) etc.
You don't just make up ground like this by will and the flick of a switch.
And this is another vital puzzle piece.
So far we have game plan, years of a very professional fitness program...and now we have development.
Having our VFL side has been super for developing the flexibility of our side. There are few players who can't readily be moved across the field. Our spread of goal-kickers is one manifestation of that, but it allows us such flexibility and manouevrability it's not funny.
The game-plan might take a season, but fitness, conditioning, player development and an inbuilt flexibility take time to emulate.
That's not to say we are locks, no way, but it would also be remiss to imagine you make up the lag by a summer of drills and imagination.
The Bombers have invested more in hope in this post season than the rest of the competition combined!!
I take it you didnt read the thread before posting this.
I think we're in a good position to go back to back, only because we have already won one. I just hope we make the top 4 first.
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did anyone write about them ,your kidding right ?
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