Hard to see it happening with the A-League being the F-League in quality. When anyone who is any good plays somewhere overseas it is hard to see it attracting the kind of support needed to overtake AFL.
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It's improved dramatically over the last few years. The advantage is that, if and when the clubs have enough $ they can pay for any marquee player they can afford. You'd reckon Adelaide have earn't some good dough in their Asian CL campaign to pay a first class player.
You need to play the political game with sport these days.
I see, in addtion to the AL, the ACL being an intergral part of soccer here. Teams play all across europe for entry into the euro CL, and the ACL will gather pace. It has a wide reaching audience.
Do you really think the international cup in our lifetime, or the next 3 lifetimes, will be a huge global event?
I don't see there being a need to dismantle anything, just that soccer will grow large, and the other codes will plod along at a sustainable pace, and quite possibly...wait for it....a merger eventually between union and league.
The RUWC is obtainable, but don't, as humans, aim for the highest heights? The holy grail? Didn't the interest in the last football (aka soccer) WC show this?
The reality is, as a truly global game, it is a year long sport (a bit like cricket these days). There is club football, the ACL the WCC and then all the internationals. It's impossible to keep it bound to one season. Some people say there is no competition between the football codes, but in my view there really is. I mean, wouldn't the AFL like an extra 40 odd million that the gvt has dished out to the FFA? And there is only so much TV revenue to go around.
NO SOCCER WILL NEVER TAKE OVER AFL.
Now can this dribble filled thread PLEASE be shunted to the bloody Soccer board where it belongs.
Take all of the Soccer Trolls with it. For God's sake give us a break they are much worse than Rugby League TROLLS.
Now can this dribble filled thread PLEASE be shunted to the bloody Soccer board where it belongs.
Take all of the Soccer Trolls with it. For God's sake give us a break they are much worse than Rugby League TROLLS.
Look, here is how it is for me (and I love my footy).
I cant understand how people are running down the A-league for being sub-elite.
Imagine footy were played all over the world. Imagine fotty was "the world game" and they played it in every country. Would Australia still be the best?
Sure Australia can be best in Cricket playing against these second rate nations. Sure, Ireland can be "the best" at Gaelic Football even though they come 134th at the olympics and win no other sport.
I mean imagine that there were 200 million Brazillians playing it. And they almost dance while they are playing it. And we find out that they are better than us. Would we lift our standards to compete? You bet your arse!
But without every country in the world playing it ... without international competition, there is no way if we know we are playing it well. If there were no other soccer countries, we would think our local soccer the best in the world. With me?
So sure the A-league is not "the best in the world", but neither is the grand final. Because we dont get to test ourselves against those beautiful dancing brazilians who might play it every single day on the beaches of Rio de Janiro. With me?
I cant understand how people are running down the A-league for being sub-elite.
Imagine footy were played all over the world. Imagine fotty was "the world game" and they played it in every country. Would Australia still be the best?
Sure Australia can be best in Cricket playing against these second rate nations. Sure, Ireland can be "the best" at Gaelic Football even though they come 134th at the olympics and win no other sport.
I mean imagine that there were 200 million Brazillians playing it. And they almost dance while they are playing it. And we find out that they are better than us. Would we lift our standards to compete? You bet your arse!
But without every country in the world playing it ... without international competition, there is no way if we know we are playing it well. If there were no other soccer countries, we would think our local soccer the best in the world. With me?
So sure the A-league is not "the best in the world", but neither is the grand final. Because we dont get to test ourselves against those beautiful dancing brazilians who might play it every single day on the beaches of Rio de Janiro. With me?
Here we go again Mods.
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Yep take OUR tax money away from soccer and it would be broke as it cannot stand on its own feet and compete with the AFL,RU and even thugby!
If its SO popular as the soccer urgers suggest then let them play their games in winter like all the other codes instead of slinking off to the summer.
vinnie
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Your footy club posted a loss this year. Most AFL clubs post losses. They live on handouts from the AFL. Either way, somebody pays.
Soccer is played in weinter. It's called the Asian Champions League. Both Melb Victory and Adelaide United played through the whole AFL season, with more money, and more sponsorship coverage. Next year its Jerts and Mariners. Why doesn't your AFL compete in Asia with a comp when the Asian Champions LEague is being played instead of slinking off in an Australian winter?.
In Victoria from 2001 Cricket has grown by 64,900 while Soccer has increased by only 18,300, these figures are from the State Government.
So Soccer can stay in their own time in Victoria, Australia wide cricket grew by 113,600 to soccers 146,000.
Cricket is here to stay in Victoria and so is AUSSIE RULES
That is utter rubbish. Irrespective of any world cup funding, the FFA is now in the black, and is now looking quite sound financially.
It is played all year round, and the question is whether soccer has the potential to take over AFL in the future, not whether the a-league is more popular right now than the AFL.
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Realistically, I can't see soccer ever replacing AFL as the number 1 code in Australia. On a world scale soccer is number 1 and I think it will be happy to be known as the number 1 world game which comes in at number 2 in Australia. There are some countries soccer will not be number 1 in:
India (Cricket)
USA (NFL/NBA)
Australia (AFL)
It just has to accept this.
India (Cricket)
USA (NFL/NBA)
Australia (AFL)
It just has to accept this.
Easy Tiger - I just started playing lawn bowls - great game !
vinnie
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What are you trying to prove?
That's like you gloating that Usain Bolt can't run 100 meters in 5 seconds flat, but instead it takes him 9.72 seconds.
He's still the friggin fastest man in the world!
blewhismindout
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Why would soccer overtake a game that is so much apart of our history? People don't just forget these things.
Yes, soccer has always been popular in Europe, and it seems to have grown rapidly throughout Asia over the last 30 or so years. But these countries had no ingrainded sporting culture or history as America, India, Australia and even New Zealand has.
I think AFL will always be number one here, but I do think the AFL needs to do more to promote the game to different ethnic groups, because soccer is the game they're inclinded to support. You only need to compare the makeup of A-League and AFL crowds to see that.
Yes, soccer has always been popular in Europe, and it seems to have grown rapidly throughout Asia over the last 30 or so years. But these countries had no ingrainded sporting culture or history as America, India, Australia and even New Zealand has.
I think AFL will always be number one here, but I do think the AFL needs to do more to promote the game to different ethnic groups, because soccer is the game they're inclinded to support. You only need to compare the makeup of A-League and AFL crowds to see that.
Soccer will not overtake AFL until the EPL relocates to australia.
On the point of the A-league crowds, I'm pretty confident in saying they too are well dominated by traditional anglo-celtic crowds, at least from the large number of sydney CC and Ncastle games i've been too.
But the main point here is that I wouldn't underestimate the power of any well organised and managed sport moving in and stamping their claim over a more traditional sport or at least equaling it. Japan is a good example.
I wouldn't be so confident about India.
An interesting article...
http://www.businessworld.in/index.php/Columns/Indias-New-Soccer-Love.html
blewhismindout
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The only other sport I associate with Japan is baseball, and I really can't see that as having the same cultural grounding as the AFL does in Australia.
In every suburb and country town there's a footy club, and I think it would be fairly extraordinary if this was surpassed any time soon.
But I see no reason why the two codes can't co-exist without one devouring the other, especially since they're played in different seasons.
that's certainly the case in Victoria, but in NSW - Australia's most populous state - you'd be lucky to find one country town, and hardly any Sydney suburbs, with a rules club
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lol you are so wrong, every heard of the South West of your state or the Barrassi line, also lots of Sydney suburbs have Australian Football clubs.
Soccer will never come close to footy in Australia.
mate, just look at the latest figures from the government. They can be found in this report here
http://www.ausport.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0008/241865/ERASS_Report_2007_FINAL.pdf
but here is a screenshot of the figures relevant to this discussion:
http://i36.tinypic.com/2mr9u7p.gif
as you can see, there are 16,000 people in NSW who play Australian Rules football, compared to 317,000 that play soccer. That's 19 times as many people playing soccer compared to Australian Rules in NSW. Take a closer look at these figures and you will see that there are even more people in NSW participating in sports like shooting and orienteering than playing Australian Rules. And these figures are just for people over 15. Then when you get to those under 15 the numbers are still truly staggering in soccer's favour as well.
Sure there may be towns close to the Victorian border where there is an Aussie Rules flavour, but as you can see from the statistics, they are in the definite minority.
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