Would we all be better off if the club handed its license back?

[AmericanCrow]

We won one superbowl in the last 5 years, narrowly lost another.

You just proved my point mate

 

[Southerntakeover]

Let me know what decade the Crows plan on getting to .500 let alone making the 8

This plan seems ever bit the Browns plan

Both working extraordinarily well

The Crows never planned on bottoming out. They just stunk. They've never planned on staying down longer than the bare minimum to rebound to mediocre performances- they were supposedly competing for finals this year. They just stink.

I don't think the problem is what you think it is.

 

[Southerntakeover]

You just proved my point mate

It disproves your point. Your theory was doing anything but trying to win every game is a toxicity that will destroy a club.

 

[AmericanCrow]

The Crows never planned on bottoming out. They just stunk. They've never planned on staying down longer than the bare minimum to rebound to mediocre performances- they were supposedly competing for finals this year. They just stink.

I don't think the problem is what you think it is.

For the last several seasons ALL we have heard is how we should lose

The team absolutely said they were rebuilding and needed time

Blah blah blah

It is no different than the stupid Browns plan

They are the same

 

[AmericanCrow]

It disproves your point. Your theory was doing anything but trying to win every game is a toxicity that will destroy a club.

The Philadelphia Eagles are 45-36-1 betwen March 19, 2018 and March 19, 2023

Again thanks for proving my point

 

[Southerntakeover]

For the last several seasons ALL we have heard is how we should lose

The team absolutely said they were rebuilding and needed time

Blah blah blah

It is no different than the stupid Browns plan

They are the same

They said they were rebuilding as a cover for having gotten to the point where they were unable to win games.

They want to win, they just are incapable of it.

 

[Southerntakeover]

The Philadelphia Eagles are 45-36-1 betwen March 19, 2018 and March 19, 2023

Again thanks for proving my point

They literally pulled players to deliberately lose.

https://sny.tv/articles/eagles-tank-job-threatened-the-integrity-of-the-game----but-how-does-the-nfl-fix-it-

 

[AmericanCrow]

They literally pulled players to deliberately lose.

https://sny.tv/articles/eagles-tank-job-threatened-the-integrity-of-the-game----but-how-does-the-nfl-fix-it-

45-36-1 the last 5 seasons

Losing A game doesn’t in any way support your position

Teams sit players all the time in Week 18 in the NFL and ya know it

 

[AmericanCrow]

Anyway, the Crows made their bed for years

Now they gotta lie in it

Same as in Cleveland

 

[Southerntakeover]

45-36-1 the last 5 seasons

Losing A game doesn’t in any way support your position

Teams sit players all the time in Week 18 in the NFL and ya know it

Your central premise was that teams cannot deliberately lose without it being corrosive. They did. The point ends there.

Look, this is going to be a wild ride about that's inevitably going to end up with you going on about Pittspuke and Bill Bellichik whilst in NFL season I'm absolutely here for that I only have room to be mad at one sport at a time so I'm going to focus on the Crows handing their license back and improving the lives of all of their supporters.

 

[AmericanCrow]

Your central premise was that teams cannot deliberately lose without it being corrosive. They did. The point ends there.

Look, this is going to be a wild ride about that's inevitably going to end up with you going on about Pittspuke and Bill Bellichik whilst in NFL season I'm absolutely here for that I only have room to be mad at one sport at a time so I'm going to focus on the Crows handing their license back and improving the lives of all of their supporters.

And you are wrong

Losing A game in week 17 of an NFL season (as only 16 games at that time) is in NO way setting out to lose

As the Crows and Browns have

Dropping A game and picking up 3 positions is NOT the same as “rebuilding”

The Eagles did not spend that season dropping games

The culture of winning established by the Super Bowl team wasn’t extinguished because they sat guys in the last game

Talk to me when Philly treats ALL their games like the Browns and Crows have

 

[AmericanCrow]

Anyone advocating the team should fold

Should probably just go barrack another squad

 

[Southerntakeover]

Anyone advocating the team should fold

Should probably just go barrack another squad

I've already covered that. It's too deeply ingrained for me to cease of my own volition.

If people were making rational decisions no one would follow this club.

The solution with the maximum public good is handing the license back. Let Norwood or someone have a go. They couldn't **** it up worse.

 

[moogerfooger]

This thread reminds me of this -

 

[The Perfect Stranger]

We know about the past 6 years. I have to live them too. This is a new season and drawing a conclusion about how we are going to perform after 1 game isnt smart. I bet you weren't annoyed at how the club did in the trials. If after 5 games we are not performing up to expectations I will jump on the bandwagon too but to do it after a single game......your judgement leaves a lot to be desired.

His frustration isn't based on one game. Our list is horrendous and the incompetent men who have built this list are still in charge calling the shots. At this rate our "rebuild" could extend past a decade. The frustration is also magnified as the day before we saw that our closest rival has built a young midfield that should (should) keep them around the mark for a decade. When their premiership window does open up (if it hasn't already) it won't be a 1 or 2 year window like we are used to (2005/2006, 2012, 2017) it will be 4 or 5 years of being a genuine chance.

 

[MrBarry]

His frustration isn't based on one game. Our list is horrendous and the incompetent men who have built this list are still in charge calling the shots. At this rate our "rebuild" could extend past a decade. The frustration is also magnified as the day before we saw that our closest rival has built a young midfield that should (should) keep them around the mark for a decade. When their premiership window does open up (if it hasn't already) it won't be a 1 or 2 year window like we are used to (2005/2006, 2012, 2017) it will be 4 or 5 years of being a genuine chance.

Our list isn't horrendous.

 

[George Kramer]

Our list isn't horrendous.

It’s not horrendous but our midfield hasn’t been the focus of our rebuild and it should have been.

 

[jackster83]

Our list isn't horrendous.

Our midfield is.

 

[Crowboto]

It’s incredibly hard to win a flag in this league.

You need to be highly competent in all facets of the game and be ruthless. We’re neither.

Then there’s bad luck and the vic bias. We kick own goals and take wedgies from the league, the sanfl, and now a handful of Karen’s who live in the city of west Torrens.

Then the club will tell the members that at least it wasn’t atomic.

The trick is to be less invested. I’m annoyed with todays loss, but I don’t care like I used to. I’m too old for this s**t.

Yes, it is incredibly hard to win a premiership in the AFL. Its nigh on impossible when your club does not have it at number one on their list of priorities.

 

[The Perfect Stranger]

Our list isn't horrendous.

Which of the following do you think will play 100 games, while showing at least break even consistency:

McHenry
Jones
Sholl
Cook
Gallant
Himmelberg
Newchurch
Borlace
Murphy
Hately
Brown
McPherson
Strachan

 

[jackster83]

Which of the following do you think will play 100 games, while showing at least break even consistency:

McHenry
Jones
Sholl
Cook
Gallant
Himmelberg
Newchurch
Borlace
Murphy
Hately
Brown
McPherson
Strachan

I wouldn't be writing off Cook or Gollant just yet.

Sholl would look alright on the wing for a club with a decent midfield and coaching group.

 

[PCORF]

I just imagine they don't exist most of the time. Not letting a club ruin my life. But I remember back in 2018 when we had all those games on free to air TV I refused to watch them in a personal protest.

 

[ABAB]

I just imagine they don't exist most of the time. Not letting a club ruin my life. But I remember back in 2018 when we had all those games on free to air TV I refused to watch them in a personal protest.

You are not excited by the youngsters coming through in the AFL and SANFL? This is the most bullish I've been on our list for a long time and what I focus on as we are still rebuilding.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

The solution with the maximum public good is handing the license back. Let Norwood or someone have a go. They couldn't * it up worse.

They should make it the Double Blues just to piss off Carlton.

 

[ABAB]

Which of the following do you think will play 100 games, while showing at least break even consistency:

McHenry
Jones
Sholl
Cook
Gallant
Himmelberg
Newchurch
Borlace
Murphy
Hately
Brown
McPherson
Strachan

All list will have borderline players, how about focusing on the other young and developing players.
Soligo
Rachele
Berry
Rankine
Pedlar
Taylor
MM
Fogarty
Schoenberg (on thin ice though)
Thithorpe
Parnel
Gollant
Cook (depend on his want)
Jones
Scholl (apparently has improved his toughness around the ball)