WWE TV, Rumours and Discussion - (On Netflix starting 07/01/2025)

[Jack Richards]

Angry Owens = Good Owens.

Need more Nikki Cross fighting.

 

[Ry009]

Serious Angry Owens is good. The goofy angry shit he was doing was beneath him.

Been a great run for him last few months. Great heel work.

Good having solid technical wrestlers around the world titles.

 

[RossFC]

Serious Angry Owens is good. The goofy angry shit he was doing was beneath him.

Been a great run for him last few months. Great heel work.

Good having solid technical wrestlers around the world titles.

I liked when CM Punk said he hates people saying "move set". Then at WWE HQ during that RAW on Netflix presser, Owens said "I have a great move set!" straight into the camera.

 

[Ry009]

I liked when CM Punk said he hates people saying "move set". Then at WWE HQ during that RAW on Netflix presser, Owens said "I have a great move set!" straight into the camera.

Haha yeah, similar small tidbit when Punk first came and they had Owens talking to the camera and past a table with Punk shirts and he pushed them off the table.

Providing Punk is fit, actually looking forward to that feud if it ever happens.

 

[Tonythetiger]

Haha yeah, similar small tidbit when Punk first came and they had Owens talking to the camera and past a table with Punk shirts and he pushed them off the table.

Providing Punk is fit, actually looking forward to that feud if it ever happens.

The was also a clip I think from maybe Punk's first appearance on Smackdown where he sees Owens and says "Do you know where Nick Aldi's office is?" And Owens just looks at him and goes "Nope" then walks away. It's going to be a lot of fun if this fued eventuates.

 

[BEEG]

Wow this Punk and Rollins promo is off its head.

 

[jabba5114]

Might be Seth's best promo. That was amazing

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[RossFC]

Next week on RAW on Netflix:
Jey Uso vs Drew McIntyre

In 2 weeks on RAW:

 

[RossFC]

lmao at New Day saying "Mask guy, hat guy, no hat guy" when going through the members of the LWO.

Iyo Sky should have won the Women's IC Title, don't care about either finalists.

That CM Punk line about Becky Lynch taking her ball and going home, damn. Good line from Punk also saying pretty much Seth is waving a WWE flag because Punk was one of the first guys from ROH to get signed which opened the door for him too.

 

[Nicho50]

Punks been straight fire this year the feud with Drew, the war of words with Seth and the eventual Heyman favour and potential clash with Roman next year will be epic.

He’s been worth every cent.

 

[Ry009]

Gable/Otis match wasn't anything special. Really hope Gable moves onto better stuff now, too talented to be still stuck in stable feuds. Great feud with Gunther and just been treading water since turning heel. Should have been the one to dethrone Gunther.

Seth's energy was great, he's very good when he's fired up, but cringe with the Joker stuff. Hope it leads to a serious heel turn for him. Not sure they can string out both of them being faces.

Some of that promo stuff from Seth was a bit confusing though, especially "winning the war" comment - can't mean AEW, unless it's the war against bad creative from 2016-2019 lol. All for not rushing things, but hope one of the two turn heel next week if they're still having a program with each other at Mania.

 

[Cleavy]

Next week on RAW on Netflix:
Jey Uso vs Drew McIntyre

In 2 weeks on RAW:
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Oh they should have made the finals for next week, rather than the additional week.

 

[nobbyiscool]

I don't really know what I was expecting today, but I was pretty disappointed.

They've put all this focus on the move the Netflix, and there's been no recognition of the end of 30-something years of weekly, episodic cable television. I thought we'd get a match or a segment that looked back a little bit, a 2 minute video didn't really do it for me.

 

[RossFC]

This is class from The War Raiders.

 

[Cleavy]

I don't really know what I was expecting today, but I was pretty disappointed.

They've put all this focus on the move the Netflix, and there's been no recognition of the end of 30-something years of weekly, episodic cable television. I thought we'd get a match or a segment that looked back a little bit, a 2 minute video didn't really do it for me.

 

[RossFC]

There is still Smackdown on USA over there. So the partnership hasn't really ended.

 

[nobbyiscool]

There is still Smackdown on USA over there. So the partnership hasn't really ended.

You're right, but when it's suited them they've treated the "30+ years of weekly episodic cable television" as a big deal. Smackdown has been all over the place in terms of tv deals.

And it's not just the US, nor is it just Australia - they're giving up some pretty longterm tv deals around the globe to send everything to Netflix.

 

[jabba5114]

Gable/Otis match wasn't anything special. Really hope Gable moves onto better stuff now, too talented to be still stuck in stable feuds. Great feud with Gunther and just been treading water since turning heel. Should have been the one to dethrone Gunther.

Seth's energy was great, he's very good when he's fired up, but cringe with the Joker stuff. Hope it leads to a serious heel turn for him. Not sure they can string out both of them being faces.

Some of that promo stuff from Seth was a bit confusing though, especially "winning the war" comment - can't mean AEW, unless it's the war against bad creative from 2016-2019 lol. All for not rushing things, but hope one of the two turn heel next week if they're still having a program with each other at Mania.

I'd enjoy this Seth much more. Wouldn't skip as much of his stuff.

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[Cleavy]

glad we didn't do predictions for these Women's US & IC tournaments. I would have done terribly.

 

[Cleavy]

Some of that promo stuff from Seth was a bit confusing though, especially "winning the war" comment - can't mean AEW, unless it's the war against bad creative from 2016-2019 lol. All for not rushing things, but hope one of the two turn heel next week if they're still having a program with each other at Mania.

you know that's exactly what it means/meant.

 

[nobbyiscool]

glad we didn't do predictions for these Women's US & IC tournaments. I would have done terribly.

I was surprised that others didn't think Chelsea was super predictable, the mid-card belt was pretty much made for her.

The Raw tournament has been pretty weird. I wonder whether Dakota or Lyra was the planned winner when they announced it.

 

[Cleavy]

I was surprised that others didn't think Chelsea was super predictable, the mid-card belt was pretty much made for her.

The Raw tournament has been pretty weird. I wonder whether Dakota or Lyra was the planned winner when they announced it.

might have picked Chelsea. probably wouldn't have picked Michin as the finalist. But if you're using both titles to elevate people before putting them into the mix with Bel Air etc, then no complaints.

 

[Ivelisse]

Rollins is a competent enough performer but he really excelled convincing WWE to make him an upper carder for life. Don't quite get it. Spot likely owes a lot to WWE wanting to reference The Shield for Roman Reigns indefinitely. Buckle in for a big Dean Ambrose run if Shahid Khan ever cuts off Tony's "son stay away from the real business" money We can politely ignore Mr Good went from looking like a boy band member to an aging plumber.

 

[nobbyiscool]

Some of that promo stuff from Seth was a bit confusing though, especially "winning the war" comment - can't mean AEW, unless it's the war against bad creative from 2016-2019 lol. All for not rushing things, but hope one of the two turn heel next week if they're still having a program with each other at Mania.

I don't think it's supposed to be clear at this stage. I think it's going to be one of these layered, long term stories they tell, at least until WM.

Rollins is Punk, 10 years later. We've established that was Rollins' desire when he asked Punk to train him, was to be CM Punk.

Rollins was the same brash, outspoken guy that was never meant to make it under the McMahon regime - which is the story they've told today.

Much as I loathe how much he keeps involving himself in shit to put himself over, I think the next chapter of the story needs to involve Triple H. Because this is where they're different, it's where their paths diverge.

Punk famously left in 2014 - 10 years ago now - critical of Triple H for burying him. In the wreckage of Punk leaving? Rollins doesn't become CM Punk at all, he goes in the other direction - he becomes the Triple H lackey, and Rollins becomes a younger version of CM Punk that Triple H can use to exonerate himself among the smart crowd.

At this point Rollins stops trying to be a CM Punk clone and he starts trying to be a Triple H clone. He's no brash, young, athletic saint, he's the Architect. He's the company guy.

I was watching that promo today and thinking "it's wild that CM Punk believes he's the good guy in this story."

But he's not the focus of the story - Rollins is the focus, and in a KO sort of a way, I think he's about to embark on the most justified, most warranted heel turn of all time when people won't understand what he did for the company by aligning with Triple H, and by breaking up the Shield, and by being the star that WWE needed when CM Punk quit. (Because all of this is 100% true! He can be the heel that believes his truth because it is the truth!)

They may try and tie Bloodline into that too, but they don't need to, and in some ways it'd be good to start an entirely new, year+ long story that you go away from and come back to that doesn't involve the Bloodline, and that maybe you can spin some other stuff from.

 

[James Colorado]

I don't think it's supposed to be clear at this stage. I think it's going to be one of these layered, long term stories they tell, at least until WM.

Rollins is Punk, 10 years later. We've established that was Rollins' desire when he asked Punk to train him, was to be CM Punk.

Rollins was the same brash, outspoken guy that was never meant to make it under the McMahon regime - which is the story they've told today.

Much as I loathe how much he keeps involving himself in shit to put himself over, I think the next chapter of the story needs to involve Triple H. Because this is where they're different, it's where their paths diverge.

Punk famously left in 2014 - 10 years ago now - critical of Triple H for burying him. In the wreckage of Punk leaving? Rollins doesn't become CM Punk at all, he goes in the other direction - he becomes the Triple H lackey, and Rollins becomes a younger version of CM Punk that Triple H can use to exonerate himself among the smart crowd.

At this point Rollins stops trying to be a CM Punk clone and he starts trying to be a Triple H clone. He's no brash, young, athletic saint, he's the Architect. He's the company guy.

I was watching that promo today and thinking "it's wild that CM Punk believes he's the good guy in this story."

But he's not the focus of the story - Rollins is the focus, and in a KO sort of a way, I think he's about to embark on the most justified, most warranted heel turn of all time when people won't understand what he did for the company by aligning with Triple H, and by breaking up the Shield, and by being the star that WWE needed when CM Punk quit. (Because all of this is 100% true! He can be the heel that believes his truth because it is the truth!)

They may try and tie Bloodline into that too, but they don't need to, and in some ways it'd be good to start an entirely new, year+ long story that you go away from and come back to that doesn't involve the Bloodline, and that maybe you can spin some other stuff from.

The best villains believe they're a hero.