WWE Survivor Series: Wargames - Sunday 1st December, 2024, 10am AEDT (Countdown show at 8am AEDT)

[nobbyiscool]

What an unremarkable show. Everything was just kind of ok I thought. And I was expecting a storyline development in the men's match that let the heels win, so I was a bit flat that nothing happened. Even flatter when we got a super long outro, which convinced me they were doing that super late storyline development again that HHH likes so much.

I don't like that the faces won both matches, and I don't like that a team of 5 who don't need each other beat a team of 5 that does (4 of them do anyway.) I'm not sure when Solo's crew go from here, i could see GoD being a jobber tag team within 12 months of debuting and being in the biggest storyline in the company.

 

[ptrg]

Best "near miss" in wrestling history.

They truly looked like they were fleeing a natural disaster, and you simply couldn't cut it any finer.
Perfection by all 3 guys there.

I was there when Shane jumped off the cell on to taker/the desk, and obviously he had to roll early due to the extreme risk of the spot, but this is the best near miss I've ever seen (from a significant height/risk pov)

 

[Freo Big Fella]

Agree that it was an oddly listless show - standard B- kind of effort that was fine, but felt really inconsequential.

I know November-Jan is always the weakest part of the year, but you can really feel them spinning their wheels waiting for Netflix to kick off.

Thought both Wargames efforts were entertaining enough, but feels like there's a lot of "conclusions" (OG bloodline win, Rhea putting Liv away) that are going to be straight into the Vince-era memory hole by the time we get to Raw.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Anyone but me think that the new Bloodline is clearly going to beat and overcome the Original thanks to The Rock ?

The end game here I think is for The Rock to be the Tribal Chief that Roman has to beat so basically Roman has to lose the spot completely along the way

 

[RossFC]

Iyo Sky trashcan spot off the top of the cage, Tiffany MITB cash in tease, and the Riptide off the top rope through the table were good. Not sure why there was a toilet seat in the match though.

Nakamura winning the US Title straight away was unexpected.

wtf was that Otis commercial.

Enjoyed the IC Title Triple Threat, Legit thought for half a second Sheamus was finally gonna win the IC Title until Ludwig pulled the ref out the ring.

The antics between Punk and Reigns in the little cage was interesting. Massive front bump for Reed with the missed Tsunami off the cage through the table.

 

[BEEG]

Feels like to me Rock was suppose to show and pulled out last minute.

That ending felt weird.

 

[RossFC]

 

[Sippa]

Anyone but me think that the new Bloodline is clearly going to beat and overcome the Original thanks to The Rock ?

The end game here I think is for The Rock to be the Tribal Chief that Roman has to beat so basically Roman has to lose the spot completely along the way

I agree I think new bloodline overcomes OG for a few reasons

They clearly want solo to be a star
Jacob and tama need this to keep going to keep elevating them
I don’t think they’ll make jey just end up as one of the usos again giving him that entrance I think was evidence of that he’s still a singles star

 

[Constantgin]

Solo is ass thou.

 

[RossFC]

Iyo Sky pretty entertaining in the presser.

CM Punk sits down and asks for some muffins.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Feels like to me Rock was suppose to show and pulled out last minute.

That ending felt weird.

The Rock isn’t going to return until he costs Roman Reigns something. Way I see it going from here

Roman and Solo last 2 in the Rumble. All of a sudden the clock starts counting down even though 30 people already entered. Cole is confused. The Rocks music hits. Both Solo and Roman are confused as The Rock comes down in wrestling gear. All 3 stare down, both Solo and Rock start beating down Roman. Roman gets a Rock bottom and thrown out of the ring. Rock and Solo stare down. Solo jumps over the top rope. The Rock wins the Royal Rumble.

Elimination Chamber happens with Cody vs Solo vs Roman. The Rock interferes gives Rock Bottom to Reigns, Cody wins. Cody sets up triple threat match of Fatu vs Jey vs Cody, The Rock says he doesn’t need the title shot as he is The Peoples champion so Solo gets the title shot for being loyal to The Rock. Wrestlemania is The Rock vs Roman night 2 and Cody vs Jey vs Solo vs Fatu on night 1

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Winning it back at Saturday Night's Main Event special in 2 weeks comes to my mind

I think LA Knight moves on from here to build to a program with Logan Paul for Wrestlemania. US title probably just gets put on Carmelo Hayes from here

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Eh I blame the booker not Nia. Why put her in a position to fail for. She isn’t a athlete to go a entire match like that so why make her do it. Tiffy and Iyo had to be first, with Nia destroying everyone coming in 2nd last. She also should have been the one to take the pin thanks to a mistake from Tiffy.

Rhea/Liv should have just been Rhea destroying Liv with a kendo stick and then a big spot through a table like thing only

 

[Tonythetiger]

Not sure where we go from here with the two Bloodlines. Solo's crew were beating Roman for a while these past few months but this was a pretty decisive victory. I've never been super sold on Solo but I think he came out looking pretty good and having both Jacob and Bronson as his muscle makes him a lot more interesting than just the cannon fodder Tongans and Jacob. When Solo came in and was directing everyone that was pretty good stuff.

When this whole storyline ends I wonder where his place on the card is. He might be like Damien Priest where he was fine and everything but when they did the face turn he just seemed a bit more believable and someone you could get behind. Face Solo could be the thing that eventually clicks. Change the ring gear for God's sake too. He should get away from Jacob at some point as Solo also gets outshone when they are together.

The OG Bloodline should go their separate ways as they beat him but it's probably going to be dragged out a bit. Next logical point is likely The Rock getting involved however we could have some internal struggles where Solo's crew cost themselves matches and there is some dissention within the ranks. That's really just filler though to get to the next major plot point. We could get a segment where Solo has to hand over the Ula Fala to Roman and that's where The Rock shows up and takes it instead.

 

[Cleavy]

There was a Sonic 2?

yes, it was good

 

[Cleavy]

women's wargames was meh. Naomi was terrible. over-reliance on grabbing weapons. no cash in. Rhea's mask made her look like a cross between Vaquer and the Wyatts. the psychology was dumb considering Rhea was maskless and Liv could have smashed her face in with the baseball bat but instead hit her in the stomach. usual IYO trashcan spot and unnecessary Tiffy flip at same time.

US title: skipped this one. devastated to see "my guy" LA Knight losing

3 way: really good. crowd loves Breakker, and Ludwig was an excellent slimy heel opportunist. feels like Sheamus is never winning the IC title though

World title: really good also. Gunther showing moments of vulnerability

men's wargames: it was really about the order of entrances and friction in the OG team with Roman/Punk. Most of the action was meh until everyone entered, although Fatu was clearly the most impressive. Thought Reed sold way too much, but at least he got his big moment. finish was fine, it's more about teasing Roman/Punk down the line.

overall (based on what I watched) felt like a 7-ish show. might be a tad generous, but I didn't actively hate anything to detract from the show.

 

[Cleavy]

I just read that he's injured one, possibly both ankles after Edge'ing himself on the dive, so he might have an excuse!

I meant just selling in general, but if he wasn't selling as much then it lessens Jacob Fatu's importance in the match.

 

[EBERT THE KING]

I think LA Knight moves on from here to build to a program with Logan Paul for Wrestlemania. US title probably just gets put on Carmelo Hayes from here

Backward step for LA if thats the case. Hes already run his program with Logan.

Smackdown needs some new rivalries, maybe set him up in a program with Theory or Orton for a bit.

 

[Nicho50]

Bit of a weird ending thought Seth may have come at some stage but feels like they will pivot to Punk Roman at some stage.

More thinking about it absolutely the Rock doesn’t come back until the Netflix debut now.

 

[Tonythetiger]

Backward step for LA if thats the case. Hes already run his program with Logan.

Smackdown needs some new rivalries, maybe set him up in a program with Theory or Orton for a bit.

Knight vs Owens would be fun. I'm glad Nakamura won, I'm still bitter he didn't win a world title. I think Knight's ceiling is upper mid card but not quite there to ever win a world title.

 

[Cleavy]

More thinking about it absolutely the Rock doesn’t come back until the Netflix debut now.

doing a Hogan, goes away and then comes back at an important time so he can claim he drew the number.

 

[Tonythetiger]

Who do we think is dethroning Cody and Gunther?

I'm thinking for Cody we could get Roman taking it back, maybe in a triple threat with The Rock at WrestleMania, you then get the Cody heel turn as Roman will be full on face by then.

For Gunther I think Cena would make sense however I don't know if it's the right call, as Gunther would gain a lot more from a win. If they go down this path then you could do Bron as the guy to take it from Cena which would be a massive rub for him.

 

[Cleavy]

lousy GMs. get control of your backstage/parking lot area.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Backward step for LA if thats the case. Hes already run his program with Logan.

Smackdown needs some new rivalries, maybe set him up in a program with Theory or Orton for a bit.

I'm thinking it probably ends up something like LA Knight and KSI vs Logan and Jake Paul type match . They know that LA Knight is the only guy to carry such a match

 

[Cleavy]

Who do we think is dethroning Cody and Gunther?

my inner madman says they'll get drafted to the other brand and do a "belt swap"