Autopsy You get what you ****ing deserve Swans by 29 Hayward silences his critics.

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I think it relies on Heeney, Warner, Gulden and Grundy. I think we will cope should one or two of our key talls go down, but I don't know how we will cope if one of those 4 goes down


Yeah injuries to them kill's you of course but if everyone's fit I feel confident they will deliver to a strong degree .

Not as sure on my forwards
 
The arrogance of one Giants fan.

"We were comfortably beaten by a team that’s likely to lose in the second round of the finals. This is our year".

No. You are not entitled to it being "our year" and it actually requires more than just taking guys out and silly memes. You actually have to show up.

Their finals record against us has given them a false hope that their team isn’t capable of living up to.


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For me best players since Plugger

1. Buddy
2. Goodes
3. C.Bolton
4. Kennedy
5. Hall
6. Kirk
7. Papley
8. Mills
9. Kennelly
10. Richards

Though I am likely forgetting someone.
all subjective but imo

If it's as a swan then Buddy is not 1, and there is no way JPK is 4 he should be 1 or 2 behind Goodes.

Papley Kennelly and Mills don't even belong on the list ? How Mills ahead of say Hannebery or Parker or even Heeney?

Heath Grundy ?

wow did you drink before the list

good job though 😜
 
The arrogance of one Giants fan.

"We were comfortably beaten by a team that’s likely to lose in the second round of the finals. This is our year".

No. You are not entitled to it being "our year" and it actually requires more than just taking guys out and silly memes. You actually have to show up.

Their finals record against us has given them a false hope that their team isn’t capable of living up to.


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Fans rate their club

so?
 
Also feels a bit disrespectful to even talk about it to be honest. Buddy was the best player to play in the red and white since Plugger.


Buddy didn't even win a best and fairest either
 
You really like me lately huh.


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You are a great poster

I didn't meant it like heck you, I meant oh well good luck to them, everyone talks and twists how the game went to suit what their side did .

Apologies
 
all subjective but imo

If it's as a swan then Buddy is not 1, and there is no way JPK is 4 he should be 1 or 2 behind Goodes.

Papley Kennelly and Mills don't even belong on the list ? How Mills ahead of say Hannebery or Parker or even Heeney?

Heath Grundy ?

wow did you drink before the list

good job though 😜
It’s off topic, but kinda fun - so here’s my top 10:

1. Goodes
2. Paul Kelly
3. JPK
4. Buddy
5. Jude Bolton
6. Maxfield
7. Ryan O’Keefe
8. Hall
9. Kirk
10. Parker

Errol will be on the list within a few years. Heeney likely too.
 
It’s off topic, but kinda fun - so here’s my top 10:

1. Goodes
2. Paul Kelly
3. JPK
4. Buddy
5. Jude Bolton
6. Maxfield
7. Ryan O’Keefe
8. Hall
9. Kirk
10. Parker


I'll need a week to consider but kelly okeefe etc make sense

unless Kelly doesn't count as since Plugger I guess
 
No worries. The Hayward topic gets me pretty up and about lol.


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Me too, I am on board the Hayward train mate , been for a long time .

Yesterday was an outstanding game, but to me he led the way early with the massive tackle , he is a role player not a star and we need him.
 
IMO the evenness of our team means there are only three players I think we'd be royally ****ed if we had to play a substantial number of games this season without: McCartin, Rowbottom, Heeney.

And the latter isn't even structural at all, purely just because of his sheer talent that is on another level to literally every player on the ground, every single week.

I hope McCartin is OK and we get him back as soon as is safe and possible to do so.
 

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IMO the evenness of our team means there are only three players I think we'd be royally ****ed if we had to play a substantial number of games this season without: McCartin, Rowbottom, Heeney.

And the latter isn't even structural at all, purely just because of his sheer talent that is on another level to literally every player on the ground, every single week.

I hope McCartin is OK and we get him back as soon as is safe and possible to do so.


Can I add one more-- Grundy

Insert Ladhams back for him and we lose a lot
 
It’s off topic, but kinda fun - so here’s my top 10:

1. Goodes
2. Paul Kelly
3. JPK
4. Buddy
5. Jude Bolton
6. Maxfield
7. Ryan O’Keefe
8. Hall
9. Kirk
10. Parker

Errol will be on the list within a few years. Heeney likely too.
Blasphemy. No LRT. How we forget so easily.

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Can I add one more-- Grundy

Insert Ladhams back for him and we lose a lot
Potentially unpopular opinion but I don't know I agree.

Granted I think he had his best game yet tap-wise yesterday, but I feel like Grundy has mostly been a workhorse ruck for us, rather than a masterful tap ruck. Winning his own ball and the subsequent clearances. Following up with the defensive efforts. And generally just making contests in the ruck to at least nullify any chance of opposition ruck dominance.

I believe all of the above is replicable by Ladhams if he's in form. It's basically what Hickey used to do when at his best, we just didn't get it enough from him. Grundy's delivering it week on week. I don't see why Ladhams couldn't.

Where I do agree with you is that our midfielders look more proactive around the contest this year and I think the injection of a quality ruckman has allowed that. Maybe they'd revert back to not having as much confidence in their ability to win the ball out of stoppages and would set up more defensively as a kneejerk response if they lost Grundy.
 
The arrogance of one Giants fan.

"We were comfortably beaten by a team that’s likely to lose in the second round of the finals. This is our year".

No. You are not entitled to it being "our year" and it actually requires more than just taking guys out and silly memes. You actually have to show up.

Their finals record against us has given them a false hope that their team isn’t capable of living up to.


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All 2 of their fans said that?
 
It’s off topic, but kinda fun - so here’s my top 10:

1. Goodes
2. Paul Kelly
3. JPK
4. Buddy
5. Jude Bolton
6. Maxfield
7. Ryan O’Keefe
8. Hall
9. Kirk
10. Parker

Errol will be on the list within a few years. Heeney likely too.
And where pray tell is Jack Hiscox ? Nonsense list and disrespects a stalwart of the club who played the 1449th most games in the red and white :(
 
For me best players since Plugger

1. Buddy
2. Goodes
3. C.Bolton
4. Kennedy
5. Hall
6. Kirk
7. Papley
8. Mills
9. Kennelly
10. Richards

Though I am likely forgetting someone.
Not so sure about your top 10 - it is pretty subjective - FWIW I got railed for missing Jones' the other week. In any event depending on when you determine since plugger, but lets go with retirement date, Maxfield and Kelly should gain at least a place in the top 10 and Rampe has had a greater impact than Kennelly and Richards. What about Jude Bolton?
 
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Potentially unpopular opinion but I don't know I agree.

Granted I think he had his best game yet tap-wise yesterday, but I feel like Grundy has mostly been a workhorse ruck for us, rather than a masterful tap ruck. Winning his own ball and the subsequent clearances. Following up with the defensive efforts. And generally just making contests in the ruck to at least nullify any chance of opposition ruck dominance.

I believe all of the above is replicable by Ladhams if he's in form. It's basically what Hickey used to do when at his best, we just didn't get it enough from him. Grundy's delivering it week on week. I don't see why Ladhams couldn't.

Where I do agree with you is that our midfielders look more proactive around the contest this year and I think the injection of a quality ruckman has allowed that. Maybe they'd revert back to not having as much confidence in their ability to win the ball out of stoppages and would set up more defensively as a kneejerk response if they lost Grundy.


I have no data ( and I am too lazy to check) to say this is accurate, but I feel like Grundy is way more than a workhorse and is arguably top 3 ruckman in the comp for the impact he makes. I feel his level is certainly well above Hickey and Ladhams, especially last year Hickey. To put Ladhams in would be a massive downgrade, but its just my opinion.

Not sure the tap work or extra mid is there then, BUT it is all subjective. I certainly agree with your original list, especially T Mccartin. At least Ladhams is a backup option, there is no back up Tmac at all.
 
Hey now - if you've got enough time to go off topic then one of you has enough time to do the Preview thread for the Fremantle game....


I'll do it if you like
 

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