Your second 22

[Strapping Young Lad]

You named him as the starting ruckman in your sides 2nd best 22.

Cellar is a VFL footballer, who if he was any good would have teams lining up to sign him. He doesn't. But by all means keep drinking the Kool Aid...

No I did not. It was a quoted post.

Ceglar had others clubs in his ear when he had played senior games for Hawthorn as a rookie and they were promising him games, so we had to upgrade him. Shows how much you know about him.

 

[Baird]

*Scharenberg acl

B - Marsh, Brown, Maynard
HB - Williams, Reid, Langdon
C - Varcoe, Adams, Sidebottom
HF - Swan, Cloke, Howe
FF - Fasolo, Moore, Elliott
R - Grundy, Pendlebury, Treloar
I - Aish, Crisp, Greenwood, JDG

B - Sinclair, Frost, Toovey
HB - Ramsay, Goldsack, Oxley
C - Phillips, Macaffer, Broomhead
HF - Crocker, White, Josh Smith
FF - Blair, Gault, Witts
R - Cox, Sier, Wills
I - Golds, Goodyear

Ran out of players. 2 points from the 'second 22 (20)';

1. Of those 20 players 11 of them have proven they are at least somewhat capable at AFL level,
2. Only 3 of the players under 22 have shown enough to make me think they will make decent AFL'ers. That seems quite low but there are many under 22 players in my first 22, all of whom I think will make at least decent players at AFL

 

[35Daicos]

Ran out of players. 2 points from the 'second 22 (20)';

You can add Wyatt, then you're only one short of 22x2!

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Swans First XI for 2016

B: T Richards - Grundy - Laidler
HB: Rampe - Talia - Smith
C: Hannebery - Kennedy - McVeigh
HF: K Jack - Reid - Cunnigham
F: Sinclair - Franklin - Heeney
Fol: Tippett - Mitchell - Parker
INT: Lloyd - Jones - Rohan - Mills

So our seconds would look like

B: L Melican - A Aliir - N Newman
HB: T Leonardis - X Richards - H Marsh
C: J Hiscox - J Foote - S Murray
HF: B McGlynn - T Nankervis - D Towers
F: J Rose - A Davis - K Galloway
Fol: S Naismith - D Robinson - G Hewitt
INT: B Jack - C O'Riordan - T Papley - J Dawson

Out of the guys in the seconds I can see Richards/Aliir, McGlynn, Nank, Naismith, Towers, Rose, BJack, Robbo and Hewitt getting at least a game in 2016

Solid 1st team, but really light on depth compared to previous years... & for this reason you are the hardest team to predict.

A good injury rub & your side is one of only a few that is a premiership threat. A poor injury run & you could miss the finals altogether.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

*Scharenberg acl

B - Marsh, Brown, Maynard
HB - Williams, Reid, Langdon
C - Varcoe, Adams, Sidebottom
HF - Swan, Cloke, Howe
FF - Fasolo, Moore, Elliott
R - Grundy, Pendlebury, Treloar
I - Aish, Crisp, Greenwood, JDG

B - Sinclair, Frost, Toovey
HB - Ramsay, Goldsack, Oxley
C - Phillips, Macaffer, Broomhead
HF - Crocker, White, Josh Smith
FF - Blair, Gault, Witts
R - Cox, Sier, Wills
I - Golds, Goodyear

Ran out of players. 2 points from the 'second 22 (20)';

1. Of those 20 players 11 of them have proven they are at least somewhat capable at AFL level,
2. Only 3 of the players under 22 have shown enough to make me think they will make decent AFL'ers. That seems quite low but there are many under 22 players in my first 22, all of whom I think will make at least decent players at AFL

Solid depth in the 2nd 22.

Arguably the best depth I have seen yet.

Should be the difference getting into the finals.

 

[mopsy]

Personally i think we need change. It is common knowledge that the fwd line lacks. The midfield lacks and not so commonly acknowledged the back half lacks imo.
Unlike most tiger supporters i think we need to play more of the kids in areas we lack, and be prepared for some losses in the short term.Surprisingly its not about wholesale changes, it is about tweaking player roles and just 4 or 5 changes.It is more about where i think we need to get rather than where we are.

Seniors
FB: Vlastuin - Elton - Grimes.
HB: McIntosh - Rance - Houli
C: Yarran - Martin - Drummond/B ellis.
HF: Lennon - Riewoldt - Butler
FF: Rioli- McKenzie - Deledio.
R: Maric - Townsend - Cotchin
INT: C Ellis - Miles - Edwards - Vickery/Griffiths.

Reserves
FB: Batchelor - Chaplin - Broad
HB: Menadue - McBean - Castagna
C: Grigg - A Moore - B Ellis
HF: Markov - C Moore - Short.
FF: Lloyd - Astbury- Griffiths/Vickery
INT: Hampson - Conca - Lambert.
INT: Marcon - Hunt - Morris - Chol

 

[RAPPA]

To answer OP's question, refer to Carlton's round 1 side for the 2016 season

 

[NLC78]

Seniors
Webster. Goddard. Roberton
Savage. Carlisle. Dempster
Gilbert. Dunstan. Reiwoldt
Billings. Bruce. Sinclair
Lonie. McCartin. Hickey

Longer. Steven. Armitage

Weller, Ross, Montagna, Newnes


Reserves
Murdoch. Coughlan. B Rice
Geary. . Delaney. B White
Acres OKearney McKenzie.
Freeman Payne. Minchington
Templeton Lee. Membrey.

Holmes. Curren. Gresham

Int:
Saunders, Wright, Shenton, Pearce

emg: Fisher (cooked).

The players coming through EXCITING! This is why we are one of the youngest lists. look at the reserves. Young guns everywhere.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Seniors
Webster. Goddard. Roberton
Savage. Carlisle. Dempster
Gilbert. Dunstan. Reiwoldt
Billings. Bruce. Sinclair
Lonie. McCartin. Hickey

Longer. Steven. Armitage

Weller, Ross, Montagna, Newnes


Reserves
Murdoch. Coughlan. B Rice
Geary. . Delaney. B White
Acres OKearney McKenzie.
Freeman Payne. Minchington
Templeton Lee. Membrey.

Holmes. Curren. Gresham

Int:
Saunders, Wright, Shenton, Pearce

emg: Fisher (cooked).

The players coming through EXCITING! This is why we are one of the youngest lists. look at the reserves. Young guns everywhere.

Agree some exciting talent... But are you really expecting riewoldt to play as a wingman?

 

[NLC78]

Agree some exciting talent... But are you really expecting riewoldt to play as a wingman?

No but he did a few times and cant thinknof another way to get mccartin, the most natural full forward weve seen since dunstall/plugger, into the game. McCartin looks great but very one dimensional. Praying the game goes back a bit like it has already with no subs anymore because mccartin cant play ruck, defense, or midfield

 

[getgaff]

FB: Sam Butler ~ Mitch Brown ~ Paddy Brophy
HB: Jamie Bennell ~ Tom Barrass ~ Jackson Nelson

C: Kane Lucas ~ Brandt Colledge ~ Luke Partington

HF: Tom Lamb ~ Fraser McInnes ~ Malcolm Karpany
FF: Josh Hill ~ Matthew Allen ~ Simon Tunbridge

R: Jonathan Giles ~ Mark Hutchings ~ Patrick McGinnity

I: Alec Waterman ~ Corey Adamson ~ Damian Cavka ~ Tom Cole

E: Kurt Mutimer ~ Jordan Snedden

 

[coniglio_number1]

FB: Sam Butler ~ Mitch Brown ~ Paddy Brophy
HB: Jamie Bennell ~ Tom Barrass ~ Jackson Nelson

C: Kane Lucas ~ Brandt Colledge ~ Luke Partington

HF: Tom Lamb ~ Fraser McInnes ~ Malcolm Karpany
FF: Josh Hill ~ Matthew Allen ~ Simon Tunbridge

R: Jonathan Giles ~ Mark Hutchings ~ Patrick McGinnity

I: Alec Waterman ~ Corey Adamson ~ Damian Cavka ~ Tom Cole

E: Kurt Mutimer ~ Jordan Snedden

Surely butler, brown and hill are best 22.

 

[doona]

Our first 22 has a lot of debatable positions but this is a rough guess:

firsts:

B: N.Smith H.Grundy J.Laidler
HB: J.McVeigh T.Richards D.Rampe
C: G.Rohan D.Hannebery K.Jack
HF: D.Towers L.Franklin S.Reid
F: I.Heeney K.Tippett L.Parker
FOLL: C.Sinclair J.Kennedy T.Mitchell
INT: Z.Jones C.Mills H.Cunningham J.Lloyd

seconds:

B: A.Davis A.Aliir M.Talia
HB: T.Leonardis X.Richards N.Newman
C: J.Foote J.Hiscox H.Marsh
HF: B.McGlynn J.Dawson B.Jack
F: T.Papley T.Nankervis J.Rose
FOLL: S.Naismith D.Robinson G.Hewett
INT: K.Galloway A.Johnson* S.Murray L.Melican

___________

Players in bold in the firsts I think are the bottom 6.

Players bolded in the seconds are the emergencies.

From A swans fan I think the following seconds players that are not bolded (apart from the reserve rucks in Naismith/Nankervis) could easily feature next year A.Davis, G.Hewett, N.Newman, D.Robinson. Would love a surprise though.

 

[getgaff]

Surely butler, brown and hill are best 22.

Butler's a tough one to leave out because of his experience but Sheppard and Wellingham have stepped up in Butler's role.

I'm a huge fan of Brown but with McGovern having starred as a KPD in 2015 he deserves the first chance as CHB. Comes down to Schofield V Brown at selection almost.

Hill I've never been a big wrap for. Goes missing in big games way to easily and with the inclusion of Jetta and potentially Liam Duggan into the 22 he was a surplus to best 22 in my opinion

 

[JC100]

1st
Shaw Davis patful
Haynes Corr Williams
Scully ward Whitfield
Johnson Cameron Palmer
Smith Patton McCarthy
Mumford Griffen Shiel

Simpson coniglio Greene Kelly

2nd
Wilson Mohr a.Kennedy
Buntine Marchbank Reid
Ahearn Barrett WHE
Himmelberg Tomlinson m.kennedy
Pickett lobb Stewart
Downie Steele hopper

Finlayson Flynn Lloyd


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[andrew coombs]

You named him as the starting ruckman in your sides 2nd best 22.

Cellar is a VFL footballer, who if he was any good would have teams lining up to sign him. He doesn't. But by all means keep drinking the Kool Aid...

He signed a new contract last year which prevents teams lining up to sign him. Good player who should get his chance now to cement a permanent rucking role.

 

[Giant Pete]

*Scharenberg acl

B - Marsh, Brown, Maynard
HB - Williams, Reid, Langdon
C - Varcoe, Adams, Sidebottom
HF - Swan, Cloke, Howe
FF - Fasolo, Moore, Elliott
R - Grundy, Pendlebury, Treloar
I - Aish, Crisp, Greenwood, JDG

B - Sinclair, Frost, Toovey
HB - Ramsay, Goldsack, Oxley
C - Phillips, Macaffer, Broomhead
HF - Crocker, White, Josh Smith
FF - Blair, Gault, Witts
R - Cox, Sier, Wills
I - Golds, Goodyear

Ran out of players. 2 points from the 'second 22 (20)';

1. Of those 20 players 11 of them have proven they are at least somewhat capable at AFL level,
2. Only 3 of the players under 22 have shown enough to make me think they will make decent AFL'ers. That seems quite low but there are many under 22 players in my first 22, all of whom I think will make at least decent players at AFL

How long do you think Broomhead can run around in the twos for before another club snaps him up?

 

[Giant Pete]

1st
Shaw Davis patful
Haynes Corr Williams
Scully ward Whitfield
Johnson Cameron Palmer
Smith Patton McCarthy
Mumford Griffen Shiel

Simpson coniglio Greene Kelly

2nd
Wilson Mohr a.Kennedy
Buntine Marchbank Reid
Ahearn Barrett WHE
Himmelberg Tomlinson m.kennedy
Pickett lobb Stewart
Downie Steele hopper

Finlayson Flynn Lloyd


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Can't see Simpson and Mummy in the same lineup

 

[Scotland]

Surely butler, brown and hill are best 22.

All borderline.

Going into 2015, Brown definitely was. After another ACL and with McGovern's rise his position is a bit uncertain.

Our GF 22 was pretty close to our best, minus Mackenzie. Sinclair and Rosa are gone, and their places will be taken by Lycett (presumably - we may play McGovern as 2nd ruck/forward) and Redden. So we've got to find room for Mackenzie and Lewis Jetta.

We played small this year because we had to. With Hurn, Sheppard, Wellingham, Schofield, Ellis, Nelson, Butler all vying for a spot in defence someone will miss out. Jetta will either take the place of Hill or Hutchings, IMO.

 

[ArjenTheGreat]

1's.

B: Atley - Tarrant - Thompson
HB: Wells - Petrie - MacMillan
C: Harvey - Dal Santo - Higgins
HF: Ziebell - Waite - Garner
F: Thomas - Brown - Anderson
R: Goldstein - Cunnington - Swallow
I: Jacobs - Turner - McDonald - Wood

2's.

B: Nielson - Tippett - Vickers-Willis
HB: Mullet - Hansen - Wright
C: Fordham - Dumont - Hibberd
HF: Wagner - Durdin - Montford
F: Nahas - McKay - Black
R: Daw - McKenzie - Clarke
I: Pruess - Gibson - Ray - Firitto

That is pretty decent depth really.

 

[Jesslc]

1's.

B: Atley - Tarrant - Thompson
HB: Wells - Petrie - MacMillan
C: Harvey - Dal Santo - Higgins
HF: Ziebell - Waite - Garner
F: Thomas - Brown - Anderson
R: Goldstein - Cunnington - Swallow
I: Jacobs - Turner - McDonald - Wood

2's.

B: Nielson - Tippett - Vickers-Willis
HB: Mullet - Hansen - Wright
C: Fordham - Dumont - Hibberd
HF: Wagner - Durdin - Montford
F: Nahas - McKay - Black
R: Daw - McKenzie - Clarke
I: Pruess - Gibson - Ray - Firitto

That is pretty decent depth really.

Wright in the 2s? Way off

 

[TheKanga]

First 22

FB: Firrito - Tarrant - Wright
HB: Atley - Thompson - McMillan
C: Wells - Ziebell - Dal Santo
HF: Higgins - Petrie - Harvey
FF: Brown - Waite - Thomas
R: Goldstein - Swallow - Cunnington
Int: Hansen - Gibson - Garner - Turner

Second 22

FB: Tippett - Durdin - Mckenzie
HB: Mullett - Nielson - Mcdonald
C: Ray - Wagner - Hibberd
HF: Vickers-Willis - Black - Anderson
FF: Nahas - Mckay - Wood
R: Daw - Dumont - Clarke
Int: Mountford - Fordham - Preuss

Players like Turner, Garner & Anderson will be fighting out for a spot in the first 22.
I went with the first two as they have the runs on the board over Jed Anderson.

EDIT - crap i forgot Ben Jacobs as well, would be stiff to miss the first team so squeeze him in there somewhere.
This is hard!

 

[MeisterBot]

AFL:

B: Williams, Brown, Marsh
HB: Langdon, Reid, Maynard
C: Crisp, Adams, Sidebottom
HF: Swan, Cloke, Fasolo
F: Elliott, Moore, White
R: Grundy, Pendlebury, Treloar

I: Howe, Greenwood, Broomhead, Varcoe

VFL:

B: Toovey, Frost, Sinclair
HB: Oxley, Goldsack, Ramsay
C: Aish, Macaffer, Goodyear
HF: Phillips, Gault, Crocker
F: Blair, Cox, Wyatt
R: Witts, De Goey, Smith

I: Wills, Golds, Sier

Not that easy to do, actually. Players in italics are for me extremely susceptible to losing a spot or gaining a spot in the AFL depending on form. We have a fairly even bunch from ~17-30. Half the VFL team (Toovey, Frost, Sinclair, Oxley, Goldsack, Aish, Macaffer, Blair, Witts and De Goey) are at least AFL standard right now, with most of the others having the scope to get there.

 

[master bate]

B - Marsh, Brown, Maynard
HB - Williams, Reid, Langdon
C - Varcoe, Adams, Sidebottom
HF - Swan, Cloke, Howe
FF - Fasolo, Moore, Elliott
R - Grundy, Pendlebury, Treloar
I - Aish, Crisp, Greenwood, JDG

B - Sinclair, Frost, Toovey
HB - Ramsay, Goldsack, Oxley
C - Phillips, Macaffer, Broomhead
HF - Crocker, White, Josh Smith
FF - Blair, Gault, Witts
R - Cox, Sier, Wills
I - Golds, Goodyear

You might be a little keen on Marsh and Maynard having them ahead of Toovey and Oxley but either way the Pies certainly have excellent backline depth. Although the best 6 probably needs Reid back to his best and one other top liner to emerge.

Midfield and forward depth isn't so great. Broomhead is probably the only player I'd want from that lot, obviously with that group of kids having talent but being raw.

 

[NLC78]

Agree some exciting talent... But are you really expecting riewoldt to play as a wingman?

LOL! Call me nostie cause the coach just said that this is whats happening!! Rooey to the midfield (wing) so mccartin can play forward. Go saints.
Reiwoldt 2016 = Richardson 2008