Preview Trial game - Crows V Port - 5pm Friday 23 Feb at Alberton Oval

[arrowman]

There is no doubt SPP lined him up for the bump.

But the bump was made more severe with Rioli's sling tackle.


If SPP didn't bump Keane, Rioli would be looking at 3 to 4 weeks.



And yet, no free kick for either action.

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To be fair to Rioli, we don't know what he was going to do. Yes, he was slinging Keane to one side, but then SPP poleaxed Keane and basically knocked both players to the ground.

It does seem likely Rioli was trying to bring Keane to ground, and yes, that may have resulted in a sling tackle. Given Keane is a much taller player, it was foolhardy of Rioli to try to bring him to ground that way, because it certainly did risk being a sling tackle.

I've always said - best tackle technique is to wrap your arms around the player and drop your knees - try to bring him straight down. I think some players go the sling because they don't want to allow the other player - if they're strong enough - to stand in the tackle. But too bad, I guess; if the other player is a Crouch or Dangerfield, you don't get to negate their strength by slinging them.

 

[beartoo]

And yet our midfield will beat their midfield when we play them this year, just like we did last year? Yes?

We were beaten at stoppages in both Showdowns last year. I reckon we'll do better this year with more time given to Rankin, Rachelle, Soligo.

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[cleanhands]

Crap post.

I think he thought so too……… gone

 

[skam85]

No one would ever accuse John of being a sports fan.

FTFY

 

[MrBarry]

Media friggin love Port

I think they do it in a patronising sort of way.

 

[MrBarry]

One of the problems with understanding key forward play is that most people significantly overestimate how many contested marks a good key forward takes.

Having said that, I don't want us trying to turn Thithorpe into the Kurt Tippett 'sit under the ball and try to outmark it when we bomb in' guy. He should be more Nick Reiwoldt- put someone on him big enough to stop him and they can't keep up, put someone who can keep up and he'll monster them. He's too good to abuse by just having him constantly crashed by defenders.

You've summed up my thoughts on him perfectly.

RT has so much more to offer than just stand under a pack and get absolutely crunches. The guy has a ton of skill and agility, let's play to his strengths.

 

[MsTopG]

Media friggin love Port

They feel sorry for them. There's a difference.

 

[Crows I Am]

Disagree. Keane had both his arms free and was spinning himself. Hard to tell what would have happened.

SPP had other options and chose to lean his shoulder in.

Even with Keane getting turned in the tackle, SPP still launched himself into the contest. He had full intention to hit him, it probably just changed where he connected due to him being turned. He wasn't trying to tackle his intentions was to bump.

Once he made the decision to bump he then has to face the consequences of the outcome, even if it wasn't his intentions to hit him how he did.

 

[jimvic]

Even with Keane getting turned in the tackle, SPP still launched himself into the contest. He had full intention to hit him, it probably just changed where he connected due to him being turned. He wasn't trying to tackle his intentions was to bump.

Once he made the decision to bump he then has to face the consequences of the outcome, even if it wasn't his intentions to hit him how he did.

so what has actually happened with Foul -Pepper - has there been a ruling yet?

 

[arrowman]

so what has actually happened with Foul -Pepper - has there been a ruling yet?

 

[George Kramer]

I think they do it in a patronising sort of way.

No, they are just easily conned

 

[Ciao Giacomo]

I ventured down to the PRPP* on Friday. After reading this thread I thought that I must have gone to the wrong match but after watching the Kayo propaganda replay, my impressions were unchanged.

1) Those (like me) hoping the Pear will plummet down the ladder are likely to be very disappointed.

2) The wind was tricky and I thought the pressure and overall standard was pretty good for a Scratchie.

3) Rob had the better of the new Ruck Dream Team. Soldo showed why a premiership ruckman was running around in the Twos last year. Sweet looked more promising but I don’t expect him to be dominant around the ground.

4) The Pear midfielders are seriously good and dominated in patches but our midfield is improving and also had periods of domination. Yes, Rankine can be a game changing midfielder

5) Our tall forwards looked too classy for the latest Pear missing pieces in defence.

6) Our defence looked shaky, particularly after Keane went down, but our talls held their own against Dixon, Finlayson and Lord.

7) Contrary to some views, I thought Chayce looked better than expected returning from a serious injury.

8) Amongst our fringe players; Sholl, Borlase, Burgess, McHenry, Berry, Dowling, Taylor and Nankervis had some good moments. Hamill, Parnell, Himmelberg, Cook and Gollant didn’t press their claim for a spot.

9) Unlike some poster, I am unwilling to judge the new lads based on a suburban oval Scratchie. I have not written off Curtin and even Edwards for Round 1.

*Peoples Republic of Poort Pear

 

[kirky]

There is one thing you don’t want to do early in any season - get reported.

The AFL likes to throw the book at you just like with McAdam last year even though the opposition player didn’t get concussed. And as the season progresses the penalties become less (ala Maynard).

 

[Carmo]

We were beaten at stoppages in both Showdowns last year. I reckon we'll do better this year with more time given to Rankin, Rachelle, Soligo.

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I'll give you the first one that we were beaten at stoppages but not in the second game, that was ours.

 

[Carmo]

Our whole better than their sum of all parts?



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Our contested tactic denies them their game.

 

[Carmo]

I don’t think we won those 2 games from necessarily the better midfield, but more likely from a stronger forward threat, and our defenders had matched well with their forwards.

Maybe the first game but in the second game we had them well and truly covered all over the ground.

 

[John Who]

Maybe the first game but in the second game we had them well and truly covered all over the ground.

I honestly can’t remember the games in detail now. Overall it’s fair to say our forwards were dominant in 2023, except with some games of poor kicking. Our defense was quite sound, and I reckon our midfield was the weaker link. That’s just a gut feel reflection. This year I reckon our kids will do better in the midfield which will hopefully push us along the ladder.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Are we seeing a different looking AFL now Gil the dull has left?

They went hard with a statement with Thomas.

Now going hard with SPP as the 1st head high contact after Brayshaw incident.

The test will be when an incident occurs involving a big name from a powerful Victorian club.

 

[arrowman]

Gil the dull has left?

Is that Gillon's New Zealand cousin?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Is that Gillon's New Zealand cousin?

Lol, nice typo as I found him both dull & a dill...& a ken doll.

 

[Jirkago75]

I bet he is top 10 league wide for contested marks per game played , will be an interesting stat follow this year

That will be a nice progression

I think the exciting bit is he’s nowhere near a finished product and has alot of improvement to come

Probably won’t be anywhere near his peak for another 3 years and will have some frustrating moments this year , no doubt

Good call, he will be much better in 2 years when Tex retires. He will be more a CHF than FF. Let’s just hope he learns as much as possible while Tex is there and then emulates him. Think he and Fog will form an awesome 1 2



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[kirky]

Are we seeing a different looking AFL now Gil the dull has left?

They went hard with a statement with Thomas.

Now going hard with SPP as the 1st head high contact after Brayshaw incident.

The test will be when an incident occurs involving a big name from a powerful Victorian club.

Reckon Andrew Dillion is more aware of legal consequences than Gill. Andrew has a background in legal.

 

[ams4crows]

Are we seeing a different looking AFL now Gil the dull has left?

They went hard with a statement with Thomas.

Now going hard with SPP as the 1st head high contact after Brayshaw incident.

The test will be when an incident occurs involving a big name from a powerful Victorian club.

Yeah I'll reserve judgement until a big name player at one of the big Melbourne clubs gets a hefty suspension.

This happens most years if you get done early in the season

 

[GROTTO]

 

[GROTTO]

AFL: It's something that in 2024 is deserving of a four-match suspension ... it sends a message to the playing community about the standards expected of players... to take the utmost care in any action that might result in a collision with the head.