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What? Scrim is dual sided. Birch had one kick and Clanger that I can remember on his right.

Tongue in cheek. If it wasn't for that we'd have to send him off to the lab for genetic testing.

Even has the hunched over running style of Birch.
 
Gun + important for our future. Has a really elite skillset. Marking, disposal, contest work. Elite attributes with his size/length too.

Serious player this one. Not exactly the same style of player but just has birchall written all over him (unsung hero in the backline when sicily, CJ get all the attention).
 
As usual Judd2Sewell I find myself in furious agreement with you 🤣

Yeh, those rankings are piles of absolute pool. I really like Moore and he had a strong season last year but even the most One eyed Hawks supporter would struggle to rank him as an 'elite' forward.

The shakiness of the champion data rankings doesn't detract from how important a player Scrimshaw is for us though, he's pure gold.

How about now? How many small forwards kicked 4 on the weekend?
It happens every time. When the data (facts) say someone is elite at what they do, those who haven’t noticed yet, question it.


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Champion data would suggest otherwise. And for those who question the data, its more likely they just haven’t noticed yet.

Scrim and Moore are elite in their positions. Both I think you would agree, are underrated. As too is Frost!

We don’t need the data to see Sic is elite because he’s been doing it for longer. Whilst Frost has also been around a while, he has improved out of site in his disposal and decision making which has not been getting noticed.




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AFL suggests scrim is only elite at intercept marks. Above average at a couple of others too. He isn’t taking a lot of ground or killing it with score involvements etc. very good player in his role but to be elite he will need to get more of it and hurt teams more by opening up the field with his kicking.

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Moore is definitely putting out elite numbers. The headline figures below are just the beginning.

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AFL suggests scrim is only elite at intercept marks. Above average at a couple of others too. He isn’t taking a lot of ground or killing it with score involvements etc. very good player in his role but to be elite he will need to get more of it and hurt teams more by opening up the field with his kicking.

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Moore is definitely putting out elite numbers. The headline figures below are just the beginning.

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Do they have this data on birch and or sic?
 
Do they have this data on birch and or sic?
Bris is taking that from the AFL app, the website has more detailed information these days. Sic is elite and above average at pretty much everything.

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AFL suggests scrim is only elite at intercept marks. Above average at a couple of others too. He isn’t taking a lot of ground or killing it with score involvements etc. very good player in his role but to be elite he will need to get more of it and hurt teams more by opening up the field with his kicking.

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Moore is definitely putting out elite numbers. The headline figures below are just the beginning.

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Scrim missed 3/4 of a game vs Carlton due to injury which smashes the stats over 5 games. Take your numbers from last year to this year and it is much higher. He averages over 20pos a game off half back. How much more of it do u think he should get?


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Not sure about the numbers, but just from watching the games I reckon Scrim was having more impact late last year pushing up the ground and threatening the scoreboard.

That's not to say he hasn't been good this season, because he certainly has been very good. But I just reckon he has a lot more to give the team.

I also acknowledge the time he spent getting up the ground corresponded with the time CJ and Day were out.
 
Scrim missed 3/4 of a game vs Carlton due to injury which smashes the stats over 5 games. Take your numbers from last year to this year and it is much higher. He averages over 20pos a game off half back. How much more of it do u think he should get?


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You referred to champion data stats saying he is elite already. Just commenting that their stats don’t say that on their own. I think it best to evaluate his elite status at the end of the year.
 
How about now? How many small forwards kicked 4 on the weekend?
It happens every time. When the data (facts) say someone is elite at what they do, those who haven’t noticed yet, question it.


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The problem that Moore has is that Robbo is backing him in as elite. And people don't want to agree with Robbo :drunk::drunk:

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